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Man or Woman
2009-08-20, 7:24 PM #1
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZ4I7fbriVTnJw6urExDniD2ZaHwD9A6SLDG1

[http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/track.and.field.caster.semenya/images/caster-semenya%2801%29.jpg]


my vote is woman

however, if she does turnout to be a man, i think it would only be fair that the runner up winner would undergo the same sex testing that semenya is going to go through

couldn't they just take an xray an check out her pelvis to see if shes a woman or not? i mean archaeologists do it all the time
i dont understand the need of all those other doctors

2009-08-20, 7:27 PM #2
this thread makes me feel uncomfortable


in my pants
DO NOT WANT.
2009-08-20, 7:30 PM #3
they only question the winners too

2009-08-20, 7:37 PM #4
am i the only one laughing at SEMENya?
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2009-08-20, 7:45 PM #5
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
am i the only one laughing at SEMENya?

unfortunately probably not
2009-08-20, 7:56 PM #6
I was expecting to see Final Fantasy characters.
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2009-08-20, 8:09 PM #7
Originally posted by Gebohq:
I was expecting to see Final Fantasy characters.

nope instead you got south african ***

2009-08-20, 8:24 PM #8
See we wouldn't have this problem if the Olympics were run like they used to be. >.>
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2009-08-20, 8:32 PM #9
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
See we wouldn't have this problem if the Olympics were run like they used to be. >.>


Yeah, because they don't let women in. Just naked, athletic men.
2009-08-20, 8:38 PM #10
Originally posted by Vin:
Yeah, because they don't let women in. Just naked, athletic men.


Sounds just up your alley.
2009-08-20, 8:39 PM #11
With a hot dog?
DO NOT WANT.
2009-08-20, 8:40 PM #12
if they are going to allow the question of gender to even be brought up, they should just make gender verification standard BEFORE an athlete can enter an event like this.
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2009-08-20, 8:42 PM #13
bah, now I find myself staring at it's crotch trying to decide if it looks like a camel toe... :o
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2009-08-20, 8:43 PM #14
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
am i the only one laughing at SEMENya?

First thing i noticed
I had a blog. It sucked.
2009-08-20, 9:14 PM #15
Originally posted by Trigger Happy Chewie:
Sounds just up your alley.


Hey when did you come back
2009-08-20, 9:17 PM #16
IT'S A MAN, BABY!
2009-08-20, 9:59 PM #17
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
;1027555']Hey when did you come back


I never really left.
2009-08-20, 10:07 PM #18
Gender is not decided by what you have in your pants but what is in your head. There's a difference between being a transvestite and a transsexual. Now we're talking semantics...

2009-08-20, 10:16 PM #19
HAIL, HAIL, ROBO-NI-A
A LAND I DIDN'T MAKE UP
COUCHMAN IS BACK BABY
2009-08-20, 10:17 PM #20
you mean like a girl leaving you a note saying "XY" after you have a one night stand with him?

2009-08-20, 10:17 PM #21
Or a transgender for that matter...
\(='_'=)/
2009-08-20, 10:22 PM #22
Originally posted by BombayZeus:
Gender is not decided by what you have in your pants but what is in your head. There's a difference between being a transvestite and a transsexual. Now we're talking semantics...


eh :huh: i would actually argue that gender is decided by your chromosomes as in XX or XY...
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2009-08-20, 10:27 PM #23
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
eh :huh: i would actually argue that gender is decided by your chromosomes as in XX or XY...


That's called "sex" most of the time. Gender is a social construct related to it.

Even sex can be iffy, though, as a few physiological women have a defective y chromosome.
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2009-08-20, 10:29 PM #24
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
eh :huh: i would actually argue that gender is decided by your chromosomes as in XX or XY...


No, your sex is determined by biological and physiological characteristics. So are we questioning his/her sex or gender?

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2009-08-20, 10:48 PM #25
My personal philosophy:

If you can't tell, then it's a man. It makes things safer and less confusing to look at it this way.
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2009-08-20, 11:02 PM #26
Originally posted by Veger:
My personal philosophy:

If you can't tell, then it's a man. It makes things safer and less confusing to look at it this way.


That's fine if you're looking for a date, but when it comes to denying an athlete the right to compete, looks are not a fair standard. If her family's tales of a lifetime of teasing about her looks are true, this allegation is the icing on the depressing cake.
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2009-08-20, 11:15 PM #27
I thought it was just a poll, I didn't actually read the article (or even see it was there)
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2009-08-20, 11:57 PM #28
@veger lol

2009-08-21, 4:34 AM #29
I'm going to say bloke, she even sounded like a bloke in an interview she had about this.
nope.
2009-08-21, 5:53 AM #30
I don't think this is a case of 'show us your genitalia, solved'.
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2009-08-21, 6:00 AM #31
I thought this thread would be about Lady Gaga.
2009-08-21, 8:58 AM #32
Originally posted by BombayZeus:
So are we questioning his/her sex or gender?


hopefully sex. because if they are going to permit athletes to compete based on which gender they identify with there's going to quickly be some problems.

Quote:
official: i am sorry gunther but you cannot compete in woman's freestyle weight lifting.
Gunther: but why not? i am a lady?
official: gunther... i can clearly see your ron johnson dangling out of your shorts.
Gunther: but... im a lady.
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2009-08-21, 12:12 PM #33
Originally posted by BombayZeus:
Gender is not decided by what you have in your pants but what is in your head. There's a difference between being a transvestite and a transsexual. Now we're talking semantics...


Not for athletic competition. Biological gender is used.
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2009-08-21, 12:35 PM #34
Originally posted by Avenger:
Biological gender is used.


You mean sex?
2009-08-21, 12:43 PM #35
interchangeable

2009-08-21, 3:37 PM #36
hermaphrodite, transgender with a possible sex change, or a man. that is a ****ing man right there.
2009-08-21, 3:38 PM #37
It's a woman you guys are *******s.
2009-08-21, 4:37 PM #38
tell em, Vin!
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2009-08-21, 4:52 PM #39
Originally posted by TheCarpKing:
That's called "sex" most of the time. Gender is a social construct related to it.

Even sex can be iffy, though, as a few physiological women have a defective y chromosome.



Yes, I too get a little frustrated when 'gender' is used as a more polite term for 'sex', even when they don't mean the same thing. Gender refers to masculine/feminine while sex refers to male/female, and it's perfectly possible and natural to have any combination of sex and gender (irrespective of sexuality). I think it's a frustration we both need to overcome, there's no pleasure in pedantry, especially as every single ****ing form you ever need to fill in uses 'gender' instead of 'sex' (possibly in fear of some wiseass drawing a third box, writing 'yes please' and ticking that instead). The distinction is important in sociology and anthropology, where that ambiguity must be avoided.
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2009-08-21, 4:57 PM #40
Hips look low, I voted male.
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