Straight women like masculine men. That's why nice guys usually lose in the nice guys vs. jerks scenario.

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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited August 29, 2004).]

Prayer answers everything.

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You can be masculine without being a prick.

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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

Women enjoy spending time with feminine males, they enjoy dating masculine (It means they have more testosterone, therefore having better children perhaps?)

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"Just remember -- No matter how bad things get, Northern Minnesota will always be there"
-- Garrison Keeler

I've made my decision. Having only seen the other girl I'm interested in today made me realize I'd rather be with her. So let's see... girl I definitely want to be with or girl I'm not even certain of. Yeah. Hard choice. Yeah... in the Old Testament. Try reading what the New Testament says. Anything that's a big part of someone's life and conflicts with a similar part of someone else's is going to be a problem, usually.
She keeps making subtle indications that she might want to convert back to Christianity. (Ironically, she was the one who (barely) got me started in it.) For example, she mentioned that Christian music is "good for the spirit" (or something). Then, she wanted go to church with me today, but I couldn't pick her up because my car was still being worked on. And then she mentioned she was proud of me for becoming a worship leader. Why? Probably like everything else in her life, she isn't certain what she wants. /uber-stab.
I happen to think quite highly of this other woman (who happens to be 4 or 5 years older than me). So I'd appreciate it if you didn't make sexual comments about her.

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For a healty meal, eat mashed potatoes, peas, and catloaf.
Massassi's cuttin' into my free time, man.
Valuable Life Lesson: Frog + Potato Gun = Blindness
Worship Examples - Christians' love for God should be seen and heard, not merely talked about. It is through actions that one is determined to be Christian, not through words. Words (and thoughts, as well) deceive even one's own self, but the heart speaks truth.

[This message has been edited by DogSRoOL (edited August 29, 2004).]

I was only joking Dogs, I didn't mean to objectify her - I'm a "nice" guy - Page would probably call me effeminate. Perhaps I should've put a there. Didn't mean to offend - you seem like a quality bloke. The comment was meant to basically suggest that the lady you want (#2 if you will) was more suitable to you than the lady the thread's about

Sorry again if I pissed you off - I didn't mean it!

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

exactly!



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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

I dunno about "better" children... I'd rather my kids not grow up to be w****rs like some people I know. Most likely my kids will be like me and their mum - and I'll make sure she's someone that I want my kids to be like.

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

I'm not pissed. I just wanted to make it clear.

Cool, sorry again!

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

Stop being so damn apolegetic, you barely said anything.

Sorry, I just hate when people are overly apolegetic...And if you say anything about irony I'm going to have to call up captain obvious and we can all get together and say some more obvious things.



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"If there's one thing I've learned it's this - you just can't shake hands with a fist" - David Allen Coe

Ok, suck my sweaty balls then!

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

Do not start dating the girl again. I know it's been said over and over again, but some of the best advice I've gotten is to not marry (date in this case I guess) someone just so you can improve them. Only marry someone you actually love, not someone who needs your help.

(I know we're not talking about marriage here, this was just the advice I got, but it seems like it applies here)



No, the Bible says that Old Testament Jews should not marry non-Jews.

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"Should slice indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration."
"I like the concept of people, but people ruin it."
"It has come to my attention that some of you have thumb-drives. They are cool."
--@%

Well... I'm having trouble "peeling" myself away from her. I mentioned to her that I liked this other woman, she told me she liked another guy (actually, she told me first). She even said that me and this other girl would make a cute couple. Yet apparently, she doesn't have a problem with... shall I say "other stuff."

So... WTF?

Only until they want to settle down. After that they look less for the macho guy

It's true, girls like hanging out with fem. guys, but like to date more masculine guys. But exactly like Flexor said, you can be masculine without being a huge prick. So i'm with Flexor on this one;)

I think a lot of the whole appeal of masculine guys has to do with the idea of feeling protected for some girls...that and sometimes masculinity can be associated with confidence, which is appealing to most girls. but being masculine doesn't mean you have to be a jackarse as some people have pointed out

anyway, about the topic...as everyone ahs said and you know well by now...DO NOT get involved with her (romantically, you should definitley be there for her as a friend). do not kiss her again, if you both are interested in different people, she shouldn't have a big problem with that. I think kissing her will only serve to confuse her, she should not be dating right now. if she goes to kiss her, offer her your cheek. seriously.