I actually don't have that much to add. Yosh, you are in a very desirable and simple position. If you reported on the situation with reasonable accuracy, this girl is screaming "Take me to prom!" at you. Most girls are far more subtle. Just ask her. It doesn't hurt. Fear of rejection is just the lazy mans way of not doing any work.

btw Yosh, do you honestly think I've never encountered a situation like yours or gave advice to people who are? Come on.

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No, I just said "the regular round of info won't work". Which is "Be yourself, be a man, don't back down, be aloof". You know the drill

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My best suggestion, ask her in a more generic way...

"Hey, you wanna do something after school? Go see a movie, go get a drink, hang out at the mall, or my house, maybe watch some TV, or a movie, or just sit around and hang out."

I have next to no experience in this area, but if you ask here like that, it gives out a number of options of things to do, it shows your a bit open to what you do, so if you don't suggest something she wants to do, maybe she'll be more apt to suggest something.

It eases the pressure a little by showing you're open with what you do, and makes it seem less like a date, and more like just a get together... you could add some friends to the picture too, but that would make it a bit less personal.

If you suggest watching a movie at either your house, or hers, you won't be bound by the 'quiet rule' so you'll be able to talk, you won't have to be in your own seperate chair with an arm rest between you, there may be some more light then there would be in a theater so you'd be able to see each other a little better, plus you'd be able to do other thigns while watching the movie, eat a pizza, who knows maybe even play a board game or something.

Board games can be good fun, and keeps things a bit more on a personal level, you will be having fun, enjoying yourselves, and be able to have good conversation. Video games aren't too bad either, but a board game has a little more interaction between those people playing, but of course she'd have to be into video games (or board games even) but since you mentioned she asked you to teach her some stuff about Halo, I assume that is a slight possibility.

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if what you're hoping to do is date at some point, that's not good. giving her choices makes it seem like you don't have a plan, which is not good. always have a plan of where you are going to do, and what you will be doing, plus a backup plan in case she doesn't like plan A or in case plan A doesn't work out. If she doesn't like plan b, take her home, b/c she isn't worth it if she's so hard to please.



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Eh, good point... but I can't say I completely agree with the last part about not being worth it if she's hard to please... I mean yeah, if she's hard to please it's not really worth it, but I wouldn't base that off of her not simply liking some of the suggestions that are offered to her, sometimes people aren't in the mood to do certain things, maybe had a bad day and don't want to go out, or if the suggestion was food may have just had it recently and it was too soon to have it again... but otherwise I suppose you're right.... but like I said I have next to no experience in the area of asking people out... I've had one girlfriend (twice...) and we're engaged now.

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A chick has to be in the mood or she would not agree to the date in the first place. Also, if she has any interest in you whatsoever, she will put aside personal issues and will try to have a good time, unless she's an absolute b****, in which case you can do better than her, right?

A chick with high interest will enjoy being around you no matter what you do (however,. its your duty as a man to make the plans and decisions) , so if she is being picky, she is out to give you a hard time and that does not signify high interest to me.


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I second that! very well said. That's what I learned. Yeah it's scary as hell putting your feelings on the line but if you dont then You'll never know.

Last guy I liked I put my feelings out on the line. Just flat out said it. OK so turns out I ended up falling for the guy (i really cared about him) and he never wanted anything beyond friendship.

Ok did it hurt? Yes. Did I cry? Lord knows more then anything. Did I get over it? Yes. Do I still care about him? Of course, but life goes on. it's that simple.

Listen if and when things dont work out, it just merely means you weren't meant for that person. Or not for that person at that moment. It's just rolling with the punches. That's how life goes, there are ups and downs, but you'll never know if you dont risk getting on the ride.

It's scary, yeah, there's a chance of hurt, sure, but it's a risk that you'll have to be willing to take.

In either case just follow your heart and your gut and do what you feel is best Yes i'm the sappy girl on here, but i'm trying to be as honest and straight fwd. as possible, hope this helps some.


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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

Actions speak are louder than words.

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ok, here's the plan Yoshi. Tomorow (read: today) come up behind her and lean over her shoulder and say "I want to tell you something." She turns around, and then you palmstrike to the nose, and then blindfold her and drag her out of school.

Find a good abandoned alleyway, and then uh.. wait for her to wake up. When she comes to, pretend that some other guy came up and uh.. palm struck her.. and that he kidnapped you (her) and ran away with you (her). You, being the caring individual you are, sacrificed your future as an academic and chased after him, tracking him to this alleyway and then you summoned the powers of <insert random Norse god> and he was disinigrated.

This is when you (her) came to, and um.. oh yeah! Wanna go to the dance with me?

It's foolproof, I swear.

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How about I just type up an example conversation to explain what I was saying...

"Hey, you want to go bowling"
"Eh, I'm not really in the mood to go bowling..."
"Oh... well how about minigolf?
"That sounds fun, sure!"

Okay so it was incredibly stupid, but that's besides the point... someone can easily not be in the mood to do one thing, but might want to go do something else.... Which either you could suggest to her, or maybe she'd even suggest it herself.


Sometimes you just have to be in the right mood to do something, or at least that's how it's been with me in a number of situations, as well as many people I know.

And that whole "it's your duty as a man to make the plans and decisions" is a horribly arrogant and/or selfish comment. Why is it the man's duty to make all the decisions and plans? If someone doesn't want to do something, you shouldn't make them do it... you should actually consider what the other person might want to do...

I'll stop at that, I feel I've gone too far off topic, and the last thing I want to do is de-rail this thread at all, even if it's just between you and I.

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haha yes that would Definitely sweep her off of her feet! lol jk

haha that was classic happydud you're pretty funny lol

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Is What Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

Of course dud, what else WOULD I do?

Here's the plan--I ask her to Starbucks, tell her if she doesn't like coffee they have other things to drink there, and I tell her I'd just like to get to know her better. We'll see how well it works.

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sounds simple enough and perfect. Doesn't sound intimidating and she'll probably be up for it. Good luck Yoshi



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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Is What Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

You should really consider a job in relationship advice. That was the most informative and helpful piece of writing ever written on appealing to the opposite sex.

I mean, come on! Everyone likes a palmstrike to the face.

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It's even sexier if you show them how you did it on their parents later on. Because you know, they'll be wanting to know.

Didn't get a chance to ask her today--teacher switched our lunch schedule around, and I only see her at lunch. Suckage

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.......nope

bad excuse. ask her before or after school otherwise you'll keep subconsciously finding ways to not get around to it....

you don't have to walk up to her and say 'hey lalala' just get into some other conversation.

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Yeah man, it's YOUR job to find time, not the lunchlady's

In the first few dates, the guy is supposed to make all the plans(thankfully, there are some girls that break this norm). This shows rudimentary leadership skills and having confidence(to ask them out in the first place) that women find desirable. If a woman has a problem with your plans, she will speak up. Besides, often it isn't what your doing but who your with.

However, my personal opinion is that it really shouldn't matter, yet I understand the reasoning behind it.

Don't you have her phone number?

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If you don't have her phone number, get it.

I personally feel it's preferential to ask someone out face-to-face, but if you can't find that opportunity just call her.

The whole thing about men having to have a plan for the date is pretty accurate, although really it's better to think of it as 'the person who is suggesting the date should have a decent idea of what to do before suggesting it'.

Not a bad excuse, I don't see her any other time. Well except in the hallways. But our school is so crowded that when I do see her, I can't stop for fear of being trampled by the mass of people. And yes I do have her phone number, but only because I happened to call my house from hers. I think calling her under those circumstances would be a bit weird...as she'd never remember giving me her phone number. Just my opinion.

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i dunno.. she invited you to church..thats a little werid. maybe you should just whip it out next you see her. her reaction will determine where the relationship goes.

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Okay, I asked her out today and she said "I'll think about it," which even I know is bad, but I did snag her number. It's now 5:08, 2 hours after school's let out. Should I give her a day or two (really probably only a day, she sits with me at lunch. Right next to me in fact) or call her tonight. I don't hold any hope that she'll say yes at this point, or at least not much, if for no other reason than the fact that if she does say no, I don't want to get hurt :\

Also here's the exact conversation--just don't tell me what I did wrong and right, I already know what I should have said. Hindsight's 20/20.

Me: "So, <name>, would you like to go out sometime?"

Her:"Where at?"

Me: "Starbucks, you know, just some place where we could talk and get to know each other a little better"

Her: "I'll think about it"

Me: "Alright. Give me your number and I can call you later, if you want."

Her: "Alright, <numbar>"

I don't know if it has any impact on anything. Whatever. I just want to know what my next move should be, because right now I'm just...nervous. I've had 4 hours to cook up some horrible thing that's going to happen to me when I call her, so any sort of level-headed advice would help.

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How about you just sit back and relax? She'll get back to you with an answer. Don't worry about it.

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Relax...hrmm...

Damn you and your reason.

Alrighty then, now to set in for the wait.

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And just to make sure you relax....*loads rifle with tranquilizer and aims it at Yoshi, rigged to fire if he moves*

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Now I just have to hope to god that's filled with tranq darts and not the backfiring poison darts I had in it yestarday. Or rather, you have to hope.

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