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Final Fantasy VII
2009-10-10, 11:20 AM #1
I just finished playing Crisis Core for PSP, and wow... :omg:

I started getting psyched about a FFVII remake again, so I started cruising forums in search of info.

It came to my attention that not EVERYONE wants to see a FFVII remake.
There is a list of people who are saying "it's a classic, don't touch it", and "the graphics doesn't prevent from enjoying"

To that I say, yes, it was still awesome, but it was like watching Shakespeare being performed by 5th graders accompanied by the first grader's recorder ensemble.

Not that I am hating on 5th graders, but if the only version of Hamlet that existed was with children acting it out with cardboard cut outs, you may be clamoring for a redone version too.

Thoughts?
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2009-10-10, 11:23 AM #2
I'd probably be able to play all the way through a remake. The midi music is so horrible in 7, the 2 hour conversations because it's text made me put it down every time I've tried.

An 8 remake with voice acting and online Triple Triad would complete my existence.
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2009-10-10, 11:27 AM #3
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/
Just thought I would put that here.
Anyway, I was never able to get into the series.
2009-10-10, 11:28 AM #4
Yup, Crisis Core was :awesome:

Not sure how I feel about a FFVII remake. Could be pretty cool.
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2009-10-10, 11:28 AM #5
Absolutely not.
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2009-10-10, 11:29 AM #6
I tried replaying the original a couple weeks ago, and the nostalgic bubble I created as a young adolescent shattered pretty quickly. The dialogue and characters are annoying, and the plot is mindless. That just leaves the gameplay, which is turn-based.
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2009-10-10, 11:30 AM #7
As long as it didn't have voice acting.

7 isn't that great anyway.
2009-10-10, 11:32 AM #8
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/


I was about to post that.
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2009-10-10, 11:58 AM #9
I'd never seen that before, I like it.
2009-10-10, 12:14 PM #10
I really don't see the epic appeal of VI. Yeah it was good. Kept me entertained. But it wasn't the end-all-be-all of FFs. I enjoyed 5 more. I liked the Job/Ability system, too.
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2009-10-10, 12:37 PM #11
I thought it was really really sad and it made me want to move out tomorrow. It was more about his sad existence and his feeling bad about himself than it was reviewing FF8.

I almost cried for him.
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2009-10-10, 1:12 PM #12
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I'd probably be able to play all the way through a remake. The midi music is so horrible in 7, the 2 hour conversations because it's text made me put it down every time I've tried.

An 8 remake with voice acting and online Triple Triad would complete my existence.


I totally agree with all of this.
2009-10-10, 1:27 PM #13
I'd say no seeing as Final Fantasy has never been that good since it made the leap to proper 3D. I guess so long as it didn't have voice acting, and the non-battle screens were still done in images, only much higher resolution.

Same deal with 8, but they're joint best FF for me with 5 taking a close second.
nope.
2009-10-10, 1:52 PM #14
I didn't like 5 <_<

6 and 7 were my favorites ... 6's characters and 7's story
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2009-10-10, 2:43 PM #15
The name Aerith physically repulses me.

This is why I do not wish for a remake.
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2009-10-10, 2:52 PM #16
That too.
nope.
2009-10-10, 2:53 PM #17
You know you can change the name? I changed it to Aeris, which is much nicer sounding and still true to the game.
DO NOT WANT.
2009-10-10, 2:57 PM #18
If they were to add voice acting we'd be screwed though. :P
nope.
2009-10-10, 3:44 PM #19
Well, looks like we need to start an online petition to change her official name in the game, then. Those always work, right? :ninja:
DO NOT WANT.
2009-10-10, 5:49 PM #20
I voted no, but not for the "it's a classic don't touch it" reason. But for the fact that the only reason why I liked it back then was that I was starved for rpgs at the time.
Compared to other rpgs, before it's time and after, it's not that good. I played it through, I liked it alright, but trying to play it again is painful and nostalgia destroying in a 'what was I thinking' way.
I honestly think if FF7 came out at a different time it's popularity would be a mere speck in comparison.
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2009-10-10, 6:47 PM #21
If they could remake it WITHOUT changing anything other then graphics it would be great... but in the last 3-4 years, Sony/Square Enix has done a terrible job at giving its customers what they wants so...
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2009-10-10, 7:23 PM #22
I would like an update, not only graphically, but a better translation too. After playing the superbly written FFXII, a lot of old FF games have lackluster dialogue.
2009-10-10, 9:07 PM #23
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
If they could remake it WITHOUT changing anything other then graphics it would be great... but in the last 3-4 years, Sony/Square Enix has done a terrible job at giving its customers what they wants so...


and including the proper ending instead of the halfassed ending we got in the US due to production due dates.
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2009-10-10, 9:10 PM #24
Well, I've never played Final Fantasy 7, so I'm pretty much indifferent to the whole thing. 6 was the only one that I actually have played all the way through.
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2009-10-10, 9:19 PM #25
Chrono Trigger first, then they can move on to this crap.
2009-10-10, 10:34 PM #26
My top 3 final fantasy games are FF7, FF6, FF9. Most people don't like 9 but the style and era and stuff of the game I really enjoyed. FF10 was meh. Cool characters but too different.

I still don't understand how people could enjoy Final Fantasy 8. FF7 is my favorite game of all time, and I played and finished every single other game in the series EXCEPT for number 8. What a terrible, terrible, boring game. I was even given it for free, so I played it as long as I could bare knowing that I didn't spend money on it. I would buy and play a remake of FF7 provided conversation (if voiced) was done in a Mass Effect kind of way, and combat was a bit different. Not as many random encounters, not taking you to a different scene, ect.
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2009-10-11, 1:40 AM #27
What i liked about 8 was the Junction System. It gave you so much control over your characters. That and it wasn't all MASSIVE HEADS too. And Triple Triad is great fun, especially once you get to the endgame and cash in all your hard won cards for 100 Holy Wars and BUTTLOADS of awesome magic to junction to your party's health/strength etc.
2009-10-11, 8:41 AM #28
Originally posted by Martyn:
What i liked about 8 was the Junction System. It gave you so much control over your characters. That and it wasn't all MASSIVE HEADS too. And Triple Triad is great fun, especially once you get to the endgame and cash in all your hard won cards for 100 Holy Wars and BUTTLOADS of awesome magic to junction to your party's health/strength etc.

See that's the thing, you end up creating ridiculously powerful characters. All I had to do was cast Aura on Squall (better was to use Cerberus and do it to everyone) and it was 85% one-hit-kill. Ultimecia took 7 minutes (2 for theatrics, 5 fighting). After that it was just use the stockpile of Ultimas I garnered and with triple, I did 20K+ damage easy.

The Job/Ability system allowed such character refinement but I couldn't build characters that could punch out Cthulhu. The most utilitarian character I made was a white/black mage having mastered both classes. I had a ninja that could summon. Speaking of summoning...I'm soooooooo glad that FF9 dealt with the five-minute long summon animations. Eden was just ridiculous.
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2009-10-11, 8:50 AM #29
But part of the point of the summon animations was the boost function. :P
nope.
2009-10-11, 10:01 AM #30
Yeah but you only needed 20 seconds to boost to 150 - Eden was ****ing stupid - Dalf's right.

That was what I liked about the Junction system though - making everyone's strength stat so high by junctioning Ultima to them that they did 9999 damage on a single hit. Lion Heart was silly, but that's why he only did it one in about 4 or 5 with Aura. Irvine's Limit Break was silly too, especially when Str was Ultima Junctioned... <_<

(actually, Selphie's Limit Break could do some pretty good BS too - I think she could cast triple invincibilty every now and again, as could Rinoa)
2009-10-11, 10:04 AM #31
I believe Aura on Rinoa's Mag or Luck made her Dog Limit Break invaluable.
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2009-10-11, 10:06 AM #32
I just watched that spoony review - he's right about the plot: it IS bat**** insane. What he doesn't mention though is the playing of the game, which I thoroughly enjoyed :)
2009-10-11, 10:23 AM #33
Originally posted by Martyn:
Yeah but you only needed 20 seconds to boost to 150 - Eden was ****ing stupid - Dalf's right.

That was what I liked about the Junction system though - making everyone's strength stat so high by junctioning Ultima to them that they did 9999 damage on a single hit. Lion Heart was silly, but that's why he only did it one in about 4 or 5 with Aura. Irvine's Limit Break was silly too, especially when Str was Ultima Junctioned... <_<

(actually, Selphie's Limit Break could do some pretty good BS too - I think she could cast triple invincibilty every now and again, as could Rinoa)

Not only the ultimas junctioned. You get like Str+60%. Like I said, FF8 made it way too easy to build an insanely stacked character.

And yes. The plot was one big WTF. I actually liked the plot through the 1st...and 2nd disks...before you found out that Edea was NOT the villian of the game. Then you got that time compression bull****. Plus Squall being an emo git. Ugh. FF8 was just bad news bears. FF9 felt more old school. They even had REAL airships!
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2009-10-11, 10:24 AM #34
Originally posted by Martyn:
Yeah but you only needed 20 seconds to boost to 150 - Eden was ****ing stupid - Dalf's right.

That was what I liked about the Junction system though - making everyone's strength stat so high by junctioning Ultima to them that they did 9999 damage on a single hit. Lion Heart was silly, but that's why he only did it one in about 4 or 5 with Aura. Irvine's Limit Break was silly too, especially when Str was Ultima Junctioned... <_<

(actually, Selphie's Limit Break could do some pretty good BS too - I think she could cast triple invincibilty every now and again, as could Rinoa)

I was kidding. :P

And real men knew that if they junctioned a crapload of Deaths to attack you got both good strength on bosses and you could get 1-hit kills on almost every regular enemy. :hist101:

Also Dalf, ff9 was mostly crap. :argh:
nope.
2009-10-11, 10:41 AM #35
Originally posted by Baconfish:
I was kidding. :P

And real men knew that if they junctioned a crapload of Deaths to attack you got both good strength on bosses and you could get 1-hit kills on almost every regular enemy. :hist101:

Also Dalf, ff9 was mostly crap. :argh:

YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU HEATHENOUS DOG!
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2009-10-11, 1:02 PM #36
I never got past about 2 hours in on FF9. I got bored almost instantly. And the card game was poor compared to triple triad.
2009-10-11, 1:25 PM #37
Originally posted by Baconfish:
And real men knew that if they junctioned a crapload of Deaths to attack you got both good strength on bosses and you could get 1-hit kills on almost every regular enemy. :hist101:


I'm fairly sure instant-kills would only happen with Status-Atk junctions. In which case you wouldn't get the bonus.

Sure, the junction system was probably the most exploitable system out of all of them. And you COULD use Aura for everything, but if you didn't, the game was a lot more challenging.

Besides sticking Ultima into Elem-Def meant you just absorbed everything. Screw godly strength, I'm immune to your elemental magic.
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2009-10-11, 1:42 PM #38
No. Two reasons:

1.) Square-Enix is a large, publicly-traded corporation. If there were a real business case for a FF7 remake they'd already be working on one. As it is, Square-Enix representatives have already come forward and publicly stated it would be way too expensive and take way too much time.

2.) It's really not that great.
2009-10-11, 2:01 PM #39
Originally posted by - Tony -:
I'm fairly sure instant-kills would only happen with Status-Atk junctions. In which case you wouldn't get the bonus.

Sure, the junction system was probably the most exploitable system out of all of them. And you COULD use Aura for everything, but if you didn't, the game was a lot more challenging.

Besides sticking Ultima into Elem-Def meant you just absorbed everything. Screw godly strength, I'm immune to your elemental magic.


Or fun trick, junction Pain onto your attack to deal Drain+2 other things I can't remember exactly onto your physical attack. Great fun.
2009-10-11, 2:36 PM #40
Originally posted by Martyn:
I just watched that spoony review - he's right about the plot: it IS bat**** insane. What he doesn't mention though is the playing of the game, which I thoroughly enjoyed :)


Did you watch all the videos?
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