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Rekindled hate for EA.
2010-01-08, 6:01 AM #1
So, last night I decide to begin playing Mass Effect on my laptop since ME2 is coming soon and I want to be fresh up on the story, as well as have a new character to port over. One problem, I don't have internet at home right now. What's that you say? Mass Effect isn't an online game? Of course not you fool! But we've all forgotten how terrible EA and SecuROM is.

That's right. I can't play it because I don't have internet. Sure sure, I could drive 20 minutes (YES, I live in TEXAS) to the nearest free wifi spot (Whataburger) but alas... why bother. Even if I do that, the game will lock down again in 10 days.

:suicide:

Thankfully they aren't including this on ME2.
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2010-01-08, 6:12 AM #2
O_o
nope.
2010-01-08, 6:27 AM #3
And they're bumping off a load of multiplayer servers to save money.

Madden 09? I think that gets turned off at christmas, but Madden 08 - SOL in April iirc.
2010-01-08, 6:36 AM #4
I don't really understand the Madden games anyway... to me they are all the same, its football... they've put almost everything possible into the games. Madden 08 + updated roster + tweaked graphics = Madden 09, repeat, Madden 10
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2010-01-08, 6:39 AM #5
Originally posted by Martyn:
And they're bumping off a load of multiplayer servers to save money.

Madden 09? I think that gets turned off at christmas, but Madden 08 - SOL in April iirc.


Oh ho ho, it's much worse than that.

Madden 08 goes down in February, 09 goes down in April. Of this year.

Essentially EA is now telling its customers, do not expect your Madden game to be playable online for more than about a year.
2010-01-08, 7:06 AM #6
That's the badger.
2010-01-08, 10:37 AM #7
When I installed Mass Effect I entered the serial number wrong. It was locked down for 10 days. Couldn't even try to reinstall.
>>untie shoes
2010-01-08, 10:42 AM #8
It has nothing to do with saving money.

Back in the Xbox 1 days, EA withheld Xbox Live support for their sports titles until they could coerce Microsoft into letting them run their own servers for matchmaking, stats and stuff. Microsoft didn't want them to run their own servers out of fear that this exact situation would happen.

EA is killing online support to force people to buy the 2010 versions ASAP.
2010-01-08, 10:58 AM #9
Originally posted by Jon`C:

EA is killing online support to force people to buy the 2010 versions ASAP.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this. I should probably buy ME on Steam... at least I won't ever have to worry about the servers disappearing and then having a disc thats completely worthless.
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
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2010-01-08, 11:15 AM #10
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
Even if I do that, the game will lock down again in 10 days.


Didn't Bioware remove the 10 day reactivation thing after everyone complained?
2010-01-08, 11:16 AM #11
Originally posted by Jon`C:
It has nothing to do with saving money.


Yeah, i should have put "the excuse they are using is to save money, BUT"

But I was in a rush :)
2010-01-08, 11:43 AM #12
Originally posted by Shayol:
Didn't Bioware remove the 10 day reactivation thing after everyone complained?


Yeah but you have to update the software to do it... Which I still can't do because I have no internet. I'll just have to drag the laptop to a friends house soon.
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
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2010-01-08, 11:51 AM #13
What did the system reqs say? Because if it said "requires internet verification" or something and they told you what the deal was then it's your own fault.
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2010-01-08, 12:43 PM #14
Originally posted by Tracer:
What did the system reqs say? Because if it said "requires internet verification" or something and they told you what the deal was then it's your own fault.


That's horse crap. Even if it were true, it doesn't state that you have to continually have internet. It's nobody's fault except the morons who invented this crap. I'm sick of people hiding behind the "fine print" as if writing something down somehow makes it acceptable.
2010-01-08, 1:00 PM #15
Originally posted by Brian:
That's horse crap. Even if it were true, it doesn't state that you have to continually have internet. It's nobody's fault except the morons who invented this crap. I'm sick of people hiding behind the "fine print" as if writing something down somehow makes it acceptable.


This. It really irked me a few weeks ago when I couldn't play my savegame in Dragon Age because their authentication servers were down, and my game used DLC. :-/
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2010-01-08, 1:00 PM #16
So where is EA Madden's "boycott group"? :v:
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2010-01-08, 1:09 PM #17
I don't see how they can disregard people who may not have internet at home. I know a lot of people who do not have internet at home. There should have been an implemented timer on the DRM that tells it after a certain date not to bother checking for the authenticating servers. It's been over 2 years. It's been hacked, they knew the DRM would only slow the pirating of the game, so why make the DRM permanent?
Quote Originally Posted by FastGamerr
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2010-01-08, 2:31 PM #18
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
Yeah but you have to update the software to do it... Which I still can't do because I have no internet. I'll just have to drag the laptop to a friends house soon.


Wow. That's all kinds of screwed up, as is Yecti's example. This sort of shenanigans is why I don't buy anything that requires activation. Well, except for WinXP, but that was a work necessity and at least MS gave the ability to activate over the phone. Still not good, but less irritating.
2010-01-08, 2:52 PM #19
Originally posted by Brian:
That's horse crap. Even if it were true, it doesn't state that you have to continually have internet. It's nobody's fault except the morons who invented this crap. I'm sick of people hiding behind the "fine print" as if writing something down somehow makes it acceptable.


Uh, what? If they tell you REQUIRES INTEL PENTIUM MMX TECHNOLOGY and then it doesn't work because you don't have INTEL PENTIUM MMX TECHNOLOGY, you should have known better. Likewise if they tell you REQUIRES INTERNET VERIFICATION FOR OFFLINE PLAY then you have only yourself to blame.

I don't know what the system requirements are for Mass Effect, however.

Quote:
I don't see how they can disregard people who may not have internet at home.


People having purchased internet access or not isn't EA responsibility. They can "disregard" whoever they want, they can sell their product to whoever they want.
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2010-01-08, 3:22 PM #20
Originally posted by Tracer:
I don't know what the system requirements are for Mass Effect, however.


I'll just weigh in to this with info from the back of my DVD case of the game. It does say "Required: Internet Connection", and in small print just above the specs box it says "Internet connection periodic online authentication and end user license agreement required to play".
2010-01-08, 3:44 PM #21
Just because they tell you about it doesn't mean it isn't still a dick move, especially considering it's really unnecessary.
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2010-01-08, 3:46 PM #22
"To use this car you must have red shoes"
Whether or not someone has red shoes or not doesn't in anyway affect the cars workings, so the manufacture asking for it is out of line.
2010-01-08, 3:52 PM #23
Originally posted by Tracer:
People having purchased internet access or not isn't EA responsibility. They can "disregard" whoever they want, they can sell their product to whoever they want.


Yes, they can. But they shouldn't.
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2010-01-08, 4:26 PM #24
humbug on you
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2010-01-08, 7:39 PM #25
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
they've put almost everything possible into the games


If only this were true. Believe me, EA is a long way away from making the best football game, feature-wise, that they can make.
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2010-01-08, 7:47 PM #26
People still play Madden games?
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2010-01-08, 7:48 PM #27
It's not an evolutionary process for them. They come up with a great new feature one year, and the next it's mysteriously absent. By combining their scant few innovative ideas in random permutations, they're able to keep the series "fresh" indefinitely.

I feel a profound hatred for EA, actually. On top of all of the personality disorders listed above, they have the habit of pushing out games months (or even years) before they're ready and never offering support for them, and they try to buy their smaller competitors just to drive them out of business. They've deliberately buried a few of my favorite franchises for the simple reason that they couldn't come up with an internal product to compete with them. **** EA and **** everybody who works for them. If "just taking orders" wasn't good enough for the Nuremberg trials I don't see why it should be good enough for me.
2010-01-08, 7:49 PM #28
Originally posted by Tibby:
"To use this car you must have red shoes"
Whether or not someone has red shoes or not doesn't in anyway affect the cars workings, so the manufacture asking for it is out of line.


Imposing requirements that are unrelated to the functionality of a product is not out of line.

That being said, I think SecuROM is ridiculous and that internet activation should only be required once and not be required every time you play the game. Steam does it more or less this way, I think.
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2010-01-08, 7:56 PM #29
pfft. SecuROM is a Sony product. Internet activation is their only hope in hell of it actually working.

Did you know that the PS2 compiler takes the amount of optimization you want it to do in seconds and will leave the output executable in an inconsistent state if it doesn't have time to finish? We are not talking about skilled software engineers here.
2010-01-08, 8:04 PM #30
Wait, what? Could you rephrase that?
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2010-01-08, 8:18 PM #31
the ps2 assembler takes the number of seconds you want it to work on optimization.

if it can't finish before the time expires it just stops dead, corrupting the output.
2010-01-08, 8:39 PM #32
Oh ****, hahaha
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2010-01-09, 4:39 AM #33
If you pass it Infinity, will it run forever, and create the perfect executable?
2010-01-09, 5:54 AM #34
The ironc thing about their securom crap is it makes more people want to pirate so they can avoid dealing with such things. You can argue what a companies rights are, but the fact is using that kind of protecion gives your company and game a bad name and ultimately hurts more then it helps.
This I base purely on speculation and have no numbers or figures to back me up :p
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2010-01-09, 9:31 AM #35
I just launched Mass Effect for the first time and realized there is no native 1680x1050 support.

WTF? No excuse for that...it's not 1999 anymore!
woot!
2010-01-09, 10:02 AM #36
Wasn't Oblivion the best selling game of 2006? And it had no copy protection at all.
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2010-01-09, 10:38 AM #37
Yeah, Oblivion didn't even have a cd key.
>>untie shoes
2010-01-09, 11:15 AM #38
Originally posted by JM:
If you pass it Infinity, will it run forever, and create the perfect executable?


No, it will stop when it's finished.
2010-01-09, 12:11 PM #39
Originally posted by JLee:
I just launched Mass Effect for the first time and realized there is no native 1680x1050 support.

WTF? No excuse for that...it's not 1999 anymore!


Yes there is, I just looked.
2010-01-09, 12:54 PM #40
So did I.
1080p Mass Effect yo.
On the topic of oblivions non-DRM.
It's the greatest thing.
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