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wear your seatbelt
2010-02-22, 5:59 PM #81
Because if we avoided everything dangerous we'd all still be plowing a field with a rock for the local tough guy. I agree though, people don't realize how dangerous some of the most common things in life are, specifically as you point out, the automobile.
Warhead[97]
2010-02-22, 6:00 PM #82
Yeah, because the world would function so much better without automobiles.
>>untie shoes
2010-02-22, 6:02 PM #83
Originally posted by Antony:
Yeah, because the world would function so much better without automobiles.


The world wouldn't need automobiles if it never had any.

And it wouldn't need automobiles if we destroyed them all right this second.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-02-22, 6:04 PM #84
Progress BAD! NO NEW DANGER, ONLY OLD DANGER! BEARS!
Warhead[97]
2010-02-22, 6:05 PM #85
What would you suggest they do instead, Freelancer?
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2010-02-22, 6:06 PM #86
Originally posted by Freelancer:
The world wouldn't need automobiles if it never had any.

And it wouldn't need automobiles if we destroyed them all right this second.

Yes I understand this whole earth exists without man and its creations stuff.

Have fun eating granola and getting in touch with nature, instead of staying in touch with reality.
>>untie shoes
2010-02-22, 6:06 PM #87
Originally posted by Freelancer:
The world wouldn't need automobiles if it never had any.

There was a time when there were none, you know.

Originally posted by Freelancer:
And it wouldn't need automobiles if we destroyed them all right this second.

What do you mean by "need?" Because all modern infrastructure would fall apart without automobile transportation.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2010-02-22, 6:10 PM #88
Originally posted by Emon:
What would you suggest they do instead, Freelancer?


I wouldn't have to suggest anything. 6.5 billion people would die and the rest would live.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-02-22, 6:11 PM #89
Freelancer: Just like the bad guys in Rainbow 6.

And to quote someone from a previous thread: Stuff like this makes me glad you're not in charge of anything.
>>untie shoes
2010-02-22, 6:14 PM #90
I couldn't go through with it.

It just sucks that our primary means of transport is so dangerous. It seems like we should be smart enough to make it a hell of a lot safer and/or unnecessary.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-02-22, 6:15 PM #91
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I wouldn't have to suggest anything. 6.5 billion people would die and the rest would live.


Like mainly anyone who doesn't have a farm in their backyard.
Warhead[97]
2010-02-22, 6:17 PM #92
Originally posted by Freelancer:
It just sucks that our primary means of transport is so dangerous. It seems like we should be smart enough to make it a hell of a lot safer and/or unnecessary.

How about this instead: It just sucks that most people aren't responsible enough to utilize our primary means of transport in a safe way. It seems like we should make it a hell of a lot harder for people to be allowed to drive.

And there's no way to make mass transport unnecessary in today's world, unless you want everyone to die.
>>untie shoes
2010-02-22, 6:19 PM #93
Nanofactories.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-02-22, 6:20 PM #94
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Fantasy.

.
>>untie shoes
2010-02-22, 6:28 PM #95
Fantasy is reality.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-02-22, 6:30 PM #96
No, it's not. That's why it's called fantasy.

I really can't imagine you're actually serious about this.
>>untie shoes
2010-02-22, 6:37 PM #97
How to cut down on car accidents; A study in darwinism

1. No one under age 25 may drive a 4 wheeled vehicle.
2. Instead at age 14 allow them to drive a two wheeled vehicle.
3. All the stupidly bad drivers will get run over and killed before they get to drive a car.
2010-02-22, 6:46 PM #98
If you're going to fight fire with fire rather than with intelligent design, then Rob's method seems to be pretty good.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-02-22, 6:47 PM #99
Hey, my simple three part plan will not only cut down on car accidents it will cut down on stupid people, pollution, and traffic.

It's a triple win situation.
2010-02-22, 6:48 PM #100
I don't think it would cut down on car accidents.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-02-22, 6:53 PM #101
The hell it wouldn't. Less stupid people!

The stupid kind of people who are too lazy to make sure their brakes work, or that their tires are inflated. The stupid people that will cut across 5 lanes of highway to make their exit instead of right lane riding it a few miles because traffic is going too slow.

These people will be hit and killed unceremoniously on a daily basis, eventually alleviating the population of stupid people behind four wheeled death tons.

This will not only benefit the environment, it will lower taxes. Less cars = less road wear = less road work required.
2010-02-22, 6:55 PM #102
at first, no, but once all the stupid people are dead, accidents will go way way down.
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2010-02-22, 7:33 PM #103
Originally posted by Rob:
The hell it wouldn't. Less stupid people!


Ignoring the incredible ability bad drivers have to cause accidents but avoid being in them.
2010-02-22, 8:25 PM #104
I wonder if there are studies on people who think they are great drivers but are actually terrible. Most people insist they are good drivers but are in fact mediocre or poor drivers.

It's the Dunning-Kruger effect, except that people die as a result.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2010-02-22, 8:27 PM #105
Also, I've heard that when the star rating system for car safety was first introduced, no one thought it was possible to achieve 5 star ratings. But the market demand for safe cars has driven intense competition and driven safety ratings to very high levels.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2010-02-22, 8:50 PM #106
Star Inflation?

For killing of dumb people : You have to be really stupid to actually think that would work.
2010-02-22, 9:00 PM #107
Originally posted by Emon:
I wonder if there are studies on people who think they are great drivers but are actually terrible. Most people insist they are good drivers but are in fact mediocre or poor drivers.

It's the Dunning-Kruger effect, except that people die as a result.

I'm not gonna lie. I know I'm a down-right terrible driver. Can't parallel park. I have a lead foot. I like to peel out. If it says to take that hard right at 25, I do it at 40.
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2010-02-22, 9:03 PM #108
I'm pretty much the same way, dalf. I drive waaaay too fast.

Yet I've never been in a crash.
>>untie shoes
2010-02-22, 9:04 PM #109
Originally posted by JM:
For killing of dumb people : You have to be really stupid to actually think that would work.


Well, "Originally Posted by Rob"
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2010-02-23, 12:26 AM #110
Originally posted by JM:
Airbags.

DEBATE OVER.


This is Massassi...
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2010-02-23, 6:29 AM #111
No seriously. Airbags pretty much nullify any argument AGAINST seat belts. It's only a matter of time before all new cars have airbags all the way around. There's even a kind now that can be put in the seatbelt.
2010-02-23, 8:26 AM #112
Originally posted by JM:
No seriously. Airbags pretty much nullify any argument AGAINST seat belts. It's only a matter of time before all new cars have airbags all the way around. There's even a kind now that can be put in the seatbelt.


If nothing else, they nullify the argument against seat belts because air bags will probably kill you if they deploy when you aren't buckled up.
2010-02-23, 12:07 PM #113
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Automobiles are terrible. I wonder when people will wake up and realize how dangerous they really are. Just terrible.


That's like saying the world doesn't need electricity. Electricity can kill you too, but only if you misuse it. With the exception of lightening.

Cars aren't killing people. Human error is.
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2010-02-23, 12:33 PM #114
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
Cars aren't killing people. Human error is.


Bingo.
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2010-02-23, 12:39 PM #115
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
That's like saying the world doesn't need electricity.
Electricity gives us the ability to centralize the generation of energy and efficiently distribute it. Widespread personal vehicle ownership is almost the exact opposite.
2010-02-23, 12:54 PM #116
Automobiles gave us the ability to centralize product generation and efficiently distribute it. It's just that in the process, we also spread out the area in which we all function. But then again, efficient electricity generation led to an increase in types of electricity use, so that's hardly different, either. I note that you refer specifically to personal vehicle ownership, but isn't that pretty inevitable? To follow your comparison, as soon as electricity made energy its own easily distributable commodity, wasn't it pretty inevitable that it would get used by a wider population? I refer back to my mocking remarks earlier to Free...that's progress. Any problems with it usually boil down to how humans take advantage of that progress.
Warhead[97]
2010-02-23, 1:08 PM #117
is there a "dunning-kruger effect" wrt electricity?
2010-02-23, 1:36 PM #118
Originally posted by Emon:
I wonder if there are studies on people who think they are great drivers but are actually terrible. Most people insist they are good drivers but are in fact mediocre or poor drivers.

It's the Dunning-Kruger effect, except that people die as a result.


I happen to know I'm a pretty good driver. But I've actually driven on a racetrack, and I don't drive like that on public roads because it's seriously god damn dangerous. Not only to myself, but to everyone around me.

Especially in my truck. It weighs almost 5000 pounds and it's all steel.
2010-02-23, 1:50 PM #119
<3 Steel.

<_<
>_>
2010-02-23, 2:06 PM #120
You'd love my truck.

The cab is constructed of about 6 layers of lapped steel. The chassis is a giant steel U channel with bulky cross members. My drive shaft is steel, all of the front end turny bits are steel, my dashboard mounts are steel, the only plastic part of the dashboard is the top and the gauge cluster.

The clutch on old fords is pretty cool. It's not cable drawn, it's lever actuated. It makes it almost feel like a hydraulic clutch because it gives you really good mechanical advantage. The downside is there is a giant spring under my dashboard. I think it's there mostly to provide smooth movement and provide force when releasing the pedal.
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