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The race card
2010-04-29, 10:15 AM #41
Yeah, I don't know why I'm still posting.
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2010-04-29, 10:15 AM #42
I've been wondering that since 1999 :(
2010-04-29, 10:23 AM #43
I thought that was a burn until I checked my join date. It would have been a pretty awesome one.
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2010-04-30, 7:20 PM #44
Originally posted by BobTheMasher:
Not that it's even close to a big deal, but personally what annoyed me is the implication that young people, blacks, latinos, and women had to be encouraged to vote or else the democratic party wouldn't win. The implication, of course, being that they will vote much more strongly in favor of the democratic party. The implication of THAT, then, is that old white males and "their" republican party are the enemy to be defeated. Regardless of the statistical truths these implications may be based on, it's just one more reminder and more fuel to the fire of this divisive attitude of class struggle that seems to be so popular now.

Don't forget, everyone, it's the blacks, latinos, women, and young people against those evil old white guys. Will you be on the winning side? THE WAR CONTINUES TUESDAY TUESDAY TUESDAY.
Oh please. What message would you prefer? The political parties want to win elections, and to do so they need to rally their respective bases. The Democratic base is young people, blacks, latinos, and women. This isn't an "implication," it's the truth.
2010-04-30, 7:35 PM #45
Originally posted by Steven:
I've been wondering that since 1999 :(


December 08' baby woo woo woo woo woo
2010-05-01, 6:08 AM #46
Originally posted by Wuss:
Oh please. What message would you prefer? The political parties want to win elections, and to do so they need to rally their respective bases. The Democratic base is young people, blacks, latinos, and women. This isn't an "implication," it's the truth.


Doesn't mean I have to like it.
Warhead[97]
2010-05-02, 8:44 AM #47
Originally posted by Wuss:
Oh please. What message would you prefer? The political parties want to win elections, and to do so they need to rally their respective bases. The Democratic base is young people, blacks, latinos, and women. This isn't an "implication," it's the truth.


This seems to alienate a large group of aging white hippies...
If I recall lots of them vote democrat as well.
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2010-05-02, 9:21 AM #48
A lot of them became Republicans after they stopped smoking marijuana too. :(
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2010-05-02, 9:51 AM #49
Originally posted by Wuss:
Oh please. What message would you prefer? The political parties want to win elections, and to do so they need to rally their respective bases. The Democratic base is young people, blacks, latinos, and women. This isn't an "implication," it's the truth.


What about young people, black people, Latinos, and women who don't support the Democratic party?
2010-05-02, 9:58 AM #50
Those don't exist in any substantial numbers.
>>untie shoes
2010-05-02, 2:06 PM #51
Cubans are usually more conservative than other Hispanic groups. I think there's a good percentage of women who don't vote Democrat. About 1/3rd of young voters voted against Barack Obama, according to Wikipedia.
2010-05-02, 2:08 PM #52
Which would not be a substantial enough demographic to really cause a lot of change.

As soon as the baby boomers all die, the democratic party is going to take over and never look back.
>>untie shoes
2010-05-02, 2:13 PM #53
One party rule?

How can that possibly be a good thing?
2010-05-02, 2:14 PM #54
I don't mean the republican party will completely cease to exist... it just won't have much power anymore.
>>untie shoes
2010-05-02, 2:55 PM #55
Originally posted by Anakin9012:
Cubans are usually more conservative than other Hispanic groups. I think there's a good percentage of women who don't vote Democrat. About 1/3rd of young voters voted against Barack Obama, according to Wikipedia.


Consider a hypothetical "get out the vote" campaign targeted at young, Hispanic, and black voters (as separate groups), but not otherwise designed to appeal more to Democrats than Republicans. To the extent that the campaign is effective, it will bring out about two Democrat votes for every one Republican vote among both youths and Hispanics, and a whopping nine Democrat votes for every one Republican vote among blacks. (For women it's about 4:3, still a winning proposition.)

So sure, there are black, Hispanic, youth and female voters who didn't vote for Obama. But that's really no reason for him not to recognize that high turnout from those groups was a key to his election.
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2010-05-02, 5:19 PM #56
Originally posted by Antony:
As soon as the baby boomers all die, the democratic party is going to take over and never look back.


Baby boomers vote Democratic.

"Although Democrats currently enjoy a party identification advantage over Republicans among Americans at every age between 18 to 85, the Democrats' greatest advantages come among those in their 20s and baby boomers in their late 40s and 50s"

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2010-05-02, 6:11 PM #57
You know polls are notoriously unreliable, right? Especially Gallup.
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2010-05-02, 6:54 PM #58
Originally posted by Emon:
You know polls are notoriously unreliable, right? Especially Gallup.


Alright, assuming most polls are worthless like you state, the ideals of the Baby Boom generation (as well as voting records the past two elections) would indicate that AT best it is split 50/50 Democrat/Republican. The death of the Baby Boom Generation wouldn't change the landscape one bit. Just think of the things they are associated with (civil rights, anti-Vietnam, gay rights, etc) and it appears that they more closely resemble today's Democratic platform than Republican. I believe in the last election they voted Obama by a slightly higher margin. And in the election before that they seemed to vote Bush by a slightly higher margin.

BTW, regarding the poll, I think it would make perfect sense given the timing of the poll where there was still large distrust of the previous administration. Baby Boomers identifying Dem would make perfect sense.
"His Will Was Set, And Only Death Would Break It"

"None knows what the new day shall bring him"
2010-05-02, 6:59 PM #59
Originally posted by mscbuck:
(civil rights, anti-Vietnam, gay rights, etc)

Those are all the hippies that don't vote anyway.
>>untie shoes
2010-05-03, 7:00 AM #60
Originally posted by Antony:
As soon as the baby boomers all die, the democratic party is going to take over and never look back.


and then we will end up like Greece. WOO!
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2010-05-03, 11:58 AM #61
Originally posted by mscbuck:
Alright, assuming most polls are worthless like you state, the ideals of the Baby Boom generation (as well as voting records the past two elections) would indicate that AT best it is split 50/50 Democrat/Republican.

I wasn't really making any argument, only pointing out that polls are bad.
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2010-05-03, 3:48 PM #62
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
and then we will end up like Greece. WOO!


I blame George W. Bush.
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