PFFFFT

Well I don't have a PS3, so I get the same effect.

I'd rather get it for the 360 than the ps3, for controller alone, but as it is my 360 died and my ps3 is going strong, so it's ps3 for me.

From a graphical standpoint, the 360 version is vastly superior. Less pop-ups, sharper graphics, better textures, better lighting effects, denser cleaner grass. The PS3 version also has some framerate drops.

I'm sure the game looks beautiful on both platforms, but the 360 is the better version. From what I gather it was designed first for the 360 and 'ported' to the PS3

Seems that most games that are on both systems run and look better on the 360.
That annoys me.

Thats not the case for a handful few like Oblivion and Darksiders, but it does seem like most multi-platform titles are developped first and foremost with the 360 in mind and altered for the PS3. This is rumors that went around during the early days of both consoles, but it lends credibility to why this happens: apparently the PS3 is a lot harder to code for. Additionally, the xbox 360 has a stronger video card while the PS3 shines in the processor department.

For my part... (and this is off topic) I'm still hoping for a day where antialiasing is no longer such a taxing feature. I HATE JAGGIES so much, and sometimes its hard to believe that in 2010 we still have to deal with that so much in video games. I know there are tons of technical implications as to why jaggies happen, and why antialiasing is so taxing, but I really hope we'll see the death of jags sooner than later. Maybe the next consoles (which I suspect we'll start hearing about at 2011's E3)

Oh man I don't have a PS3 or 360

DEMON HORSE!

Hilarioussss

I got to Mexico last night. I gotta say, it just gets better and better. I was expecting Mexico to recycle the same random missions and themes, but I've been incredibly pleased so far. Plus, the poncho outfit is awesome. I like the new areas, and I'm loving Dead Eye rank 3, its perfect.

In open world games, I'm usually bored with the game itself by the time I reach a new area. For example, I adored Far Cry 2's Chapter 1 so very very much, but by the time I got to Chapter 2 (desert area), I was ready to move onto another game. Same with GTA, same with Infamous (thankfully powers in that game kept me going), etc.

I was worried it'd be the same with RDR. I found I was starting to run out of steam by the end of the New Austin area, but Mexico really just renewed everything.

I feel the same way, Jep. With sandbox games, eventually I'll reach a point where everything feels the same and monotonous. I haven't gotten too far in the game yet so I can't say too much about its monotony. I do like that there are no stupid pigeons to hunt.

Ugh, that pigeon thing was the worst collection thing ever.

I wish this wasn't so badly ported to the PS3, I wanted to get it today but then I read more about it, I am sad.
Ten year life my ass Sony.

Naughty-Dog offers help to developers coding on the PS3, easing the learning curve, so programming for the PS3 isn't as tough as it used to be.

The PS3's video card is marginally worse, mainly because it still uses the vertex/pixel pipelines instead of a unified shader architecture and isn't quite as efficient - that's what you get for going with NVIDIA before they pulled the 8800s out of their ass. But the Cell is a great backup, Naughty Dog used it for most of the post-processing in Uncharted 2; the SSAO and DOF are done entirely on the CPU. Skinning and the likes can also be done on the CPU. As Uncharted 2 (and soon KZ3, who's development Naughty Dog is taking part in) shows, using the SPUs for offloading the GPU brings it a step ahead of the 360.

It really looks to me like Rockstar didn't even use any of the SPUs and just programmed it like they would on the 360/PC - use the main CPU for physics and game logic and throw the graphics at the GPU. I saw a video on GameTrailers (I think) that compared the two versions, and they looked practically the same (aside from the 360 one being more contrasted - an effect of it's crappy gamma curve), but I keep hearing people say the PS3 one is worse, so I guess hands-on is the only way to know for sure. Doesn't bother me too much though - I'm no fan of westerns :P. Still though.. it's annoying that in 2010, we're still getting 2006/2007 quality ports.

On the subject of AA, there's a method called "morphological AA", it provides some pretty good results and is done entirely in post-processing via shaders. Runs great too. Here's an example:

Original image.


Jaggy image before applying MLAA.


MLAA image applied to the Jaggy image above.


Since it's run entirely as a post-process effect, it's performance loss is almost unnoticeable. In terms of image quality, it's comparable to super-sampling. The PS3 game "The Saboteur" uses this, and is done entirely on the CPU - the 360 version doesn't have AA. I'm more than certain this technique is going to pick-up soon.

Interesting!


This is going to sound silly, but probably my favorite visual feature in Red Dead Redemption is how clothes and especially hats react realistically to strong winds. Don't reckon I've seen that in a game before.

That's pretty cool.

Well, I've just come home with a copy of Red Dead Redemption (for ps3 unfortunately).
Will be chucking it in in a sec and playing, dunno for how long though, I'm pretty tired.

dont rush it
people rush with games and get fustrated they did. its a good game and i am savouring the gameplaying.

I don't rush games, but I do find myself playing them for great lengths of time at once, which can amount to the same thing if theres not much outside main missions.
But games like GTA-San Andreas and Saints Row 2 I can cruise around for hours without doing anything constructive at all (the new GTA though... meh)

I'm lovin RDR, I cracked up the first time I ran over a civilian with my hourse and then I looked over and saw a dog lift his leg and start peeing!!

I agree, this is definately not a game worth rushing.

The pay off to getting that bouquet of flower of old man billy, for example, is definately worth it, no matter how trivial that Stranger mission might seem. I'll leave it at that.

I'm trying to slow down myself, and make sure I spent more time hunting for the heck of it. The scenery alone makes it worth it.

Now if I could only manage to kill those ****ing cougars with my knife. >.<

I broke in my first horse half an hour ago, took me a while to run him down....

And now I have lasso, fkmlsdf

edit: and the bastards have forced me to give up the horse I'd tamed (he was starting to like me) for some newbie! DAMN IT

I looked up the side quests and extras, yep there are no stupid collection hunts for this game. The treasure hunts are kind of like them, but you're given a map and there are only 9 of them.

The first time I raced my horse against Bonnie, I was kicked off because I didn't realize I have already drained its stamina.

I just lassoed her and then let her go without tying her, and she ran away screaming. I assumed she made it back.

Also, btw this game is so good that it made me play it so much that it melted my Xbox. Now I have to send it in for repairs. :/

A lot of the stranger missions end with less than good results, which is pretty neat.

Yeah I've gone good guy the first time round too, I've already made a fair few mental notes of fun things to do when I'm bad though.
Of course, I could wear the bandana and do bad things, but that's nowhere near as fun, I do like that they added that though, it means when a friend wants to try the game out I can put the bandana on and tell them to go wild.

I haven't played the game much since my last post unfortunately, as I've been staying over at a friends house for a few days (sounds strange for a 29 year old to have sleepovers but that's what we do)

I think I might go pick this up tomorrow.

I highly recommend it.
My only question is will it have re-playability or will it be like GTA4.

GTA IV doesn't have re-playability?

Not for me. Once I finished the game that was it, any and all enthusiasm was sucked away.
Especially since you keep getting bothered by your cousin, not to mention how bad the driving was, and the godawful minigames.
GTA4 had a good, immersive storyline, and a pretty good combat system, but after I finished the story that was it. I've tried playing it again since and I find myself "meh"ing after about five minutes, I doubt I'll ever play it again.

I never beat it, got the third island, got blown away by the city over and over, and then I sold it.

OK, some of this AI is pretty retarded.
Theres a woman screaming for help, being attacked by wolves, I shoot the wolves and she starts to run up to me saying thank you, and then suddenly she turned and ran screaming calling me a maniac or some such.
Similar happened again just now, law enforcement agents chased down a bad guy and shot him, then got attacked by wolves, the moment I fired on one of the offending critters I got a wanted level and the bastards shot me dead.
What
The
Hell

Sounds like this might be my next game.

Well, despite my complaints about those last two encounters, I do love the random goings on.
I've walked into the middle of a shootout, a kidnapping, horse theft... I've had a guy ride up and ask me to help his brother who is being unlawfully hanged (had to shoot the hanging rope quickly, as he was struggling by the time I got there), all kinds of things.
This really is a great game

I'm sold.

I'm hooked on reading the Road, but I keep being pulled to the 360 by RDR. I'm being pulled in two seperate directions. >.<

Sweet! I was right next to a guy when I fired my shotgun, so instead of just a normal animation it showed a brief 'cut scene' (for want of a better word) of me putting my gun under his chin and blowing his head off

The driving in GTA4 was bad?

Must have been driving crappy cars or something. I mean, there are enough cars in the game, all of which drive differently based on what kind of car they are, that anyone should be able to find a car that drives well for them.

I found the driving in GTA to be something I had to get used to, I couldn't just pick up and go like I could with the vehicles in Halo, for example.

Just wait until you get merged dreams.
I bought it today since I heard Alpha Protocol is flopping, it's ****ing awesome.

Yeah I guess if you were expecting more arcade like driving. I thought it was pretty good for the type of game it was.