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Israel attacks aid flotilla in international waters
2010-06-07, 8:56 PM #121
My thoughts are, she should retire in disgrace. Oh, wait, she already has.
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2010-06-07, 10:03 PM #122
Originally posted by Steven:
In other news, I'm not usually one to defend the Israelis, but they were right in this case. You break the blockade, you get your **** ruined. Maybe the flotilla folks weren't "terrorists" and maybe they did intend on helping people - so what, they still have to follow the rules.

I can't go and bust though airport security, fail to stop when I am told, struggle with the officers, then complain when I get my ass beat, even if I was trying to do something good. This is basically what those flotilla-tards were doing.


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2010-06-07, 10:25 PM #123
Originally posted by Mirthy:
What do y'all think of Helen Thomas's comments on the subject?


Reprehensible. There's no other word for them. And it's a damn shame, because she's tarnished her legacy as an award-winning reporter and a stalwart of the White House press corps.
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2010-06-08, 10:45 AM #124
Originally posted by Wookie06:
My thoughts are, she should retire in disgrace. Oh, wait, she already has.


Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
Reprehensible. There's no other word for them. And it's a damn shame, because she's tarnished her legacy as an award-winning reporter and a stalwart of the White House press corps.


Those two pretty much sum up my feelings on the matter.
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2010-06-08, 11:40 PM #125

it looks more impressive than it actually was, but at least this video sums up the important parts.
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2010-06-09, 12:45 AM #126
That seems to be a very diverse protest. Relative to protests involving other causes, at least in my country.
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2010-06-09, 2:56 AM #127
That's because all social issues are heavily divided based on demographic in the US.
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2010-06-09, 3:36 AM #128
Originally posted by Antony:
That's because all social issues are heavily divided based on demographic in the US.


I was going to point out that it (the diversity) probably means that the issue is more legitimate. But you did that first. Somehow. Sort of, I think.
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2010-06-09, 3:44 AM #129
Pretty much... No one protests something in the US because it actually concerns them. They protest because someone on tv has instructed them to be outraged over something that will never affect them.
>>untie shoes
2010-06-09, 5:35 AM #130
Originally posted by Antony:
No one protests something in the US because it actually concerns them. They protest because someone on tv has instructed them to be outraged over something that will never affect them.
Its the 'someone on tv' at work in Israel too. Most people have absolutely no idea what's going on outside of their immediate vicinity, and don't give a ****, unless said Mr. Someone tells them they've been offended and should be outraged.
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2010-06-09, 8:37 AM #131
Originally posted by Steven:
In other news, I'm not usually one to defend the Israelis, but they were right in this case. You break the blockade, you get your **** ruined. Maybe the flotilla folks weren't "terrorists" and maybe they did intend on helping people - so what, they still have to follow the rules.

I can't go and bust though airport security, fail to stop when I am told, struggle with the officers, then complain when I get my ass beat, even if I was trying to do something good. This is basically what those flotilla-tards were doing.

Let's of course ignore the nature of the blockade, and the affects it has on the people of Gaza of course. And let's also ignore the fact that just because rules are in place, that they are legitimate rules. Yes they violated certain rules that Israel wanted them to follow, but how does that make them "in the wrong" here.

I'm sure it wouldn't be too much of an exercise in history to find people "breaking the rules" being clearly right in their actions.

Do you think that the people of Gaza are glad that the rule of Israel was followed here? I doubt it.

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Pretty much... No one protests something in the US because it actually concerns them. They protest because someone on tv has instructed them to be outraged over something that will never affect them.


As someone who has been involved in activism for quite a bit, this couldn't be more wrong. Usually the smaller protests are indeed a sign of the message of the protest, etc. etc. not being relevant. But many big protests (not all of course) certainly strike to the core interests of the protesters (good example was the union march on wall st.). Also the "Seize BP" campaign in the US South and around the country has quite a bit to do with people who are affected and concerned.

Granted there are some counter examples (big protests with people seemingly going against their interests) like the Tea Party movement. Although many on the Left will point to the class makeup of those demonstrations and the financial backing of that movement and the Tea Party begins to make sense.
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