I still can't help but think of all the trouble I go to to properly dispose of 5 qts of used motor oil.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38255728/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/

I didn't know this was still going until someone mentioned it in the chat earlier.

thats because the brits (who caused the problem *coughBRITISHpetroleumcough*) dont see it as their problem.

No, it was international news; It just disappeared after Obama stopped complaining and then not doing anything about it.

Also BP is a publically owned company that hasn't been called British Petroleum for well over a decade. It's like calling Nissan Datsun.

That didn't take long.

So it was a duneworm that caused this whole thing?

When I first heard the leak had stopped, my first thought was "yeah, right".

Then I saw the pics. So, Yay! The gulf will only be ruined for 10 more years!

And hurricane season is not over with yet

Ten years? It's unlikely the gulf will 'recover' in our lifetimes. It will be healthy again, but it will never be the same.

At any rate, we need that oil to stave the peak off a little longer. Woo oil!

It takes about 50 years for a major oil spill to clear up.

That may be true, but this is so many times more disastrous than any "major" oil spill that's happened before.. ever. So who knows if even 50 years will be enough?

"hey its mr. Jeeves"

The Ixtoc I spill happened not too far away, and released roughly the same amount of oil.

The Gulf War spill was way bigger. Bigger than both put together, I think. It pretty much annihilated all coastal life in the Persian Gulf.

oh man, that led me to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_sweater

It dropped off the radar when they used McChrystal as a diversion as well as creating a Free Speech zone far away from the spill for anyone covering the story.



Both made by Japanese.

My hat's off to BP, though. Great job capping that well! There is a chance this is far from over and could become far worse, though. If the bottom bursts out of this thing the oil will begin seeping from the ocean floor. That's why Obama is still testing this thing before he comments tomorrow.

You mentioned Obama without insulting him in some way?

obama is gay

Well, I'm making fun of his comment about "We're still testing it" as if he has anything to do with it. Although, I don't remember ever insulting him at any time now that you mention it.

The spill dropped off the radar? I've heard news about it pretty much every day since it happened. CNN has had some statement about it as one of their main stories the whole time.

This is a historic moment.

Well, if you pay attention to what's going on you wouldn't have escaped it. It's just that the state controlled media put in on the back burner as soon as they had a story that didn't make the regime look so weak.

In what way?

Dammit, there goes my free oil.

I've heard about this pretty much every day I've read the news and have had no trouble finding out about it with more than a couple clicks...





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I was joking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Arizona_Memorial#Description

"To this day, oil can still be seen rising from the wreckage to the surface of the water."

Are you insane? That free speech zone is called the United States of ****ing America. You can't create a free speech zone in the USFA. It's redundant.

Er, what? Yes, it's called British Petroleum here.

Yeah, the gulf is now a big brown sink hole...

Disposing of oil is easy, just bottle it back up and take it to where you got it. Most auto-parts stores take it for free.

There is still a residue of crude oil around the Prince William Sound from the Exxon valdez.

The pipe just probably ran out of oil at its supply by now. BP probably didn't need to do anything

Are you serious? BP caused this damn catastrophe by drilling too deep when they were already told NOT to, and subsequently ignored all safety warnings and safety regulations in order to get their precious oil. INCLUDING warnings from their own workers on the rig. There were reports of people claiming the drilling being unsafe months and days prior to the event. THEN BP CEO's try to pass the blame off on someone else, and ask "What they did to deserve this". Among other stupid comments. It takes them almost 3 months to develop a potential working solution, and you're willing to tip your hat off to them because of that?

Seriously have you read any history on this event and why/how it was caused?

If you had you'd be one of the many that's willing at this point to take a gun to every BP CEO out there.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/05/congressman-bp-safety-oil-spill
http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2010/05/27/bp-skimped-on-safety-before-blast/
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-27/-fundamental-mistake-made-before-bp-spill-memo-says-correct-.html
http://middlebororeview.blogspot.com/2010/05/bp-profits-before-safety-or-environment.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10362139

EDIT: And while Wikipedia isn't the best source for information, Emon is correct that this is not the largest oil spill in history. It is however the largest in US history. I could be wrong about that however:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill#Spill_flow_rate

According to this it's 100,000 gallons per day, which over the time of the spill equals out to roughly (ROUGHLY): 8,700,000 (87 days total oil spill)

Double Edit: Found the link about Obama and the regulations... I'm reading ATM so I'm not sure if it exactly states he gave them immunity to certain regulations, but there was something going on..
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19027

That's all well and good, but when you're oil rich... you may as well be untouchable in this world. We obviously allowed them to drill there, yes it's their fault, but we're not free of blame either.

The people didn't choose to allow them to drill there. The government did.

I can't find the articles at the moment but there are currently allegations that Obama gave BP certain immunities over certain regulations that could have led up to this.

Either way, I don't recall them asking any citizen if drilling in the oceans was acceptable to them. I'm not saying they absolutely HAVE to, but to say the citizens of America, or the world rather, contributed to this, is IMO false. We all use oil, yes, and we all consume products made from oil but that doesn't mean that we're all willing to go to war for it, or to drill and possibly ruin our environment for it. I think that's one thing Iraq has proven (people don't want to go to war over oil).

We use oil in our daily lives because we are forced to. There are no alternatives out there because of the grip the oil companies have on every single ounce of our industry. If someone came out with a viable energy efficient way to do pretty much any thing in my life, I'd take it. But as it currently stands, I can't walk into a store and pick up something that'll run my car unless it's made in some way from oil.

I do agree however that if you're "oil rich" you might as well be a God.

Sure but people here freaked over the "Free Speech" zones they say Bush used to limit free speech but you don't here much outrage over the current regime denying the media access to cover the spill. You aren't very informed or you just knee jerk before you comprehend things. And please, "Conservative", don't insult the country simply because you think it's a witty way to post.

The government gets significant royalties from the offshore oil industry, which has been going on well before Obama's term. This is one of the few times, if ever, the general public ever heard of the "Mineral Management Service" (which now has been recently restructured and renamed) which, as records show, the agency did less for safety regulations and inspections and more for collecting said royalties. Having a system that collects revenues and regulates at the same time doesn't work. But the government getting too kozy with the oil industry isn't new...




The oil industry employs thousands and thousands of people, from engineers to refinery workers. To those people whose very livelihood depends on the industry, a better question for them could be "why wouldn't you dig for oil?"

The very fact that Obama's attempts at placing a 6-month moratorium on deepwater drilling is generating severe outcry in communities on the coasts shows that not everything is black-and-white when it comes to public opinion on this matter. The proposed ban makes sense when you take it at first thought; there's been a terrible oil spill, stop drilling until you figure out this mess. But people need jobs. And people need money, especially in this economy. If you think people will easily rally to stop big, bad BP from tainting our waters with refineries and pipes, perhaps take it from a different point of view.

Oh I wasn't stating that it has only started since Obama's turn in office, I'm fully aware it's been going on since we first discovered and applied the use's for oil. I was just saying that you can't 100% blame the citizens as well for the issue.

That's probably because the current administration isn't denying the media access to cover the spill.

Additionally, your use of the word 'regime' is incorrect. I understand you were trying to be inflammatory, but instead you look stupid.



I am confused. Do you think my post was insulting to the country? On the contrary, my point was that this is the United ****ing States of ****ing America, and if someone tries to tell me about 'Free Speech Zones' I'm going to shout in his face Not in my UFSFA! and then proceed to exercise my right to free speech all over his ass.