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Inception....best movie this summer
2010-07-16, 4:55 PM #1
Well maybe tied with Toy Story 3, but in terms of originality, Inception comes out on top. It has been a long time since I seen such a well constructed story in a movie. The cinematography is great and the action scenes are very entertaining (zero g looks very convincing). What I like about the special effects in this movie is that most of it is plot related and not capriciously thrown in for eye candy. The performances by DiCaprio, Ellen Page, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt are admirable too.

Oh and the ending....
Dream or reality

You know for some reason I feel the urge to wear a suit and slick my hair back after taking a short nap...

9/10
2010-07-16, 5:10 PM #2
Christopher Nolan rarely disappoints.
2010-07-16, 7:24 PM #3
I really don't like movies, I go see them once or twice a year at best and I sit through them at home even less than that. But, I've always been a DiCaprio fan and this looks pretty cool so I might actually go see it.

I would have gone and seen Shutter Island but my dumb**** dad ruined the ending for me, so I'm trying to wait and see if I can forget what he said (It's been a couple months and the memory is indeed fading) before I watch it.
2010-07-16, 7:26 PM #4
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2010-07-16, 7:37 PM #5
Saw the premier last night :cool: it was wonderful

Nolan is one of my top 2, and he didn't ruin it last night. Plus Ellen Page plays an architecture student in this movie :cool::cool::cool: And yeah, the movie does make you kind of want to be Joseph Gordon-Levitt
2010-07-16, 7:39 PM #6
This movie sorta captured me like none have for a little while. It really grabs you, the setting, the dynamic, the whole vibe of the dream-world and the structuring of the plot (of the film, of the protagonists) feels good, satisfying. Nolan seriously spins a great tale in this, and that's a specific bit of praise that hasn't popped to mind after any movie I remember seeing for a while.
2010-07-16, 8:37 PM #7
Originally posted by Dash_rendar:
I would have gone and seen Shutter Island but my dumb**** dad ruined the ending for me, so I'm trying to wait and see if I can forget what he said (It's been a couple months and the memory is indeed fading) before I watch it.

My wife read the book & a friend of mine watched the movie. I overheard them discussing the ending a few weeks ago. I watched it tonight & while it was good, it would've been much better had it been a mystery. I think you're doing the right thing by waiting & trying to forget. Maybe hypnotherapy?
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2010-07-16, 8:45 PM #8
I just want to know one thing: does it end the movie with some BS "IT WAS ONLY A DREAM"?

Spoiler it if necessary, expand on your other spoiler :P
2010-07-16, 8:56 PM #9
No, it doesn't.
DO NOT WANT.
2010-07-16, 9:36 PM #10
I liked it. I thought Cobra Commander did a pretty good job in the movie, and his character was way better than DiCaprio's.

Reality, not another layer.
2010-07-16, 10:28 PM #11
By 'another layer' do you mean whether or not he ever left "limbo."? The 'waking up on the plane', the baggage claim, the visit home could have all been fantasy/dream, but newly devoid of his wife.

I don't think so, personally, I agree it was reality... but it doesn't really matter, in my mind.
2010-07-16, 11:42 PM #12
He said to his wife that he could not live with her in limbo because he could never imagine her complexities, she would just be a shadow. However, when he woke up on the plane, he saw the others reacting to the whole experience around him, which is not something he could have imagined. That's why I think it was reality. Plus the top started to wobble in the last second there.
DO NOT WANT.
2010-07-17, 7:36 AM #13
Good point. If that was a dream (the plane) it probably wouldn't have been populated by his friends, like that. And they wouldn't necessarily have gone through another few hours of actions that fell in tune with the previous, waking scene on the plane. Plus I don't believe he would have suddenly been mentally lost enough to not correctly assess whether it was a dream or not. There were hints that at times he didn't, but he still seemed mostly in control, especially after overcoming the hangup w/ his wife.
2010-07-17, 7:43 AM #14
Originally posted by Zell:
Plus the top started to wobble in the last second there.


i agree with this, it didn't wobble in any of the other sequences using the plot device.

I went and saw this with those magically awesome DBox seats. omfgForceFeedback chairs. I want this more than 3d movies. Much cooler gimmick
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2010-07-17, 9:06 AM #15
Force... feedback... chairs? :awesomelon:
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2010-07-17, 10:50 AM #16
I don't think it's 'feedback', :P

Those seem weird and silly.
2010-07-17, 11:13 AM #17
Originally posted by genk:
I went and saw this with those magically awesome DBox seats. omfgForceFeedback chairs. I want this more than 3d movies. Much cooler gimmick


That sounds like an epic experience.
2010-07-17, 9:35 PM #18
it was awesome, it moves and vibrates to the movie, gunfights are sweet
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2010-07-18, 10:52 AM #19
Best movie I've seen in a long time. It was refreshingly original.
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2010-07-18, 10:54 AM #20
DiCaprio has come a long way from being serviced by guys in the bathroom stalls of Basketball Diaries.

P.S. Isn't it odd that someone would pay to give a blowjob? I would think that one would pay to receive one. Times are-a changin'!
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2010-07-18, 4:17 PM #21
i just saw it last night. Probably the best movie I have seen this year. Got to see it at a 21+ theater so no annoying teens. Also was in the "screening" room, with individual leather recliners.... So that may have added to the awesomeness.

I was really glad to see Ellen Paige play something other than an absurdly quirky offcenter teen. Also the ending was cut just short enough to where the top could have realistically spun for that long so you cant really be sure. I liked that it kind of leaves it up to you.
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2010-07-19, 5:23 AM #22
I'm not really interested in it, think I'll wait for it to reach a disc.
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2010-07-20, 7:04 AM #23
I think it's pretty clear that it wasn't a dream. The ambiguous progress of events at the end, and the top that almost falls while spinning is just to get you thinking. In either case the film is really about Cobb letting go and moving on, it doesn't really matter if it's in a dream or not. Which is why I think it isn't, because that adds unnecessarily to the plot.
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2010-07-20, 12:34 PM #24
Best film of the year so far, also the best film I've seen in a long while.

Also, re: the ending - reality, it was just a "gotcha" moment, if it were a dream it would have removed the purpose behind the conflict of Cobb's character throughout the entire movie .
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2010-07-20, 1:23 PM #25
Spoiler for memento in this spoiler>>

So have you guys never seen memento? Because he completely has an ending like that in that movie. The original John g. Was killed a long time ago (or was he!?!?!?) so the ending completely adds unnecessarily to the plot. In fact it make the entire movie "unnecessary" so to speak.
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2010-07-21, 2:18 PM #26
Saw it with Grismath+friends. Awesome movie. Loved it. It cut to black at the end and I just yelled out SUNVA*****. Great movie.
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2010-07-21, 2:20 PM #27
Also, I thought this was hilarious. Rumor has it that Kyle90 made it: http://twitpic.com/26k9ub
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2010-07-21, 2:22 PM #28
It looks like the style he exhibited in this post.
2010-07-21, 8:27 PM #29
A coworker said he went to see it and the power went out to the whole city block right before the climax of the movie. :master:

2010-07-21, 9:04 PM #30
That one isn't mine, but I suppose I could take credit for it...
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2010-07-21, 10:29 PM #31
It was niice.
2010-07-21, 11:48 PM #32
Your spoilers cover nothing but existential debate and can't really be considered spoilers.

Unless they can

I still wanna see it.
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2010-07-22, 1:15 AM #33
I just got back from the theater. I thought it was pretty good.

The multiple layers of the dream world was done extremely well. I liked how the previous layers influenced what happened in the current layer
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2010-07-22, 4:41 AM #34
I thought the rolling van sequence was possibly one of the best sequences in a movie I've seen in a very long time. It was good.

I was thinking that maybe the entire inception part of the movie was not actually about DiCaprio convincing Scarecrow to destroy his father's empire; the inception was actually Michael Cain getting DiCaprio to get over his wife. Alternately, when DiCaprio tries out the machine in Mumbai he starts spinning the top but we never see it actually spin - so everything subsequent to that could still be a dream. His children should certainly have aged somewhat since he left the US, as they certainly sound older when he's speaking to them on the phone and it seems like he's been gone for a number of years - but they look exactly as they do in his memory. So that suggests to me that he never woke up on the plane, and that he's still in a dream.
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2010-07-22, 6:23 AM #35
@mort: If the Mumbai scene is the one I'm thinking of, he does spin it, it just immediately falls and stops spinning. The way he described it, that wouldn't happen in a dream state.
2010-07-22, 7:07 AM #36
Hmm. I may have to go see this.
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2010-07-22, 7:57 AM #37
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
@mort: If the Mumbai scene is the one I'm thinking of, he does spin it, it just immediately falls and stops spinning. The way he described it, that wouldn't happen in a dream state.


Well, he kind of starts spinning it and then sort of knocks it over. I'm not entirely convinced by the everything-after-Mumbai-is-a-dream theory, but it's a thought I will entertain until I see that movie again. That movie is definitely worth seeing twice.
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2010-07-22, 11:38 AM #38
Saw it few nights ago and loved it. probably one of the best movies I've seen in a really long time.
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2010-07-22, 3:52 PM #39
The ending scene has several layers, like the rest of the movie. On one level, it's a simple device to get people to argue about the movie and think it over. It seems to also have been intended as a reflective image of sorts. A person's initial interpretation of the screen cutting to black before the top can be seen to fall could tell them a lot about their own view of the world.

But what it suggested to me is that although the movie may not have ended in a shared dream like the other dreams in the movie, it is entirely possible that the entire film takes place in Cobb's mind. Whether that suggests that our lives are all only a dream, as Mal suspected, or that Cobb is in a psychotic state in his real world, doesn't really matter. All of the characters can have Jungian archetypes squarely placed on their shoulders and none of them falter. Though there are several characters who could fulfill multiple archetypes. To me, the movie was Cobb undergoing catharsis, or going with the analyitical psychology theme, experiencing metanoia.

For example, Cobb's projection of Mal is the Shadow archetype which personifies his internal conflict, while Ariadne plays the part of Cobb's conscience and brings to mind the anima archetype. Arthur fairly well fulfills the hero role, and the rest of the characters have their part to play. This was immediately on my mind after the movie, and I came home to find several discussions and articles already on the internet concerning the same subject. Ariadne is also, I would like to point out, the half-sister of the minotaur. This is a multi-layered movie on more than a few levels.
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2010-07-22, 4:59 PM #40
Just had a thought... Remember what leo said to ellen about the totem and not letting others handle it?

What happened in the very first scene...
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