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I don't want a tomato picked by a Mexican.
2010-09-24, 3:12 PM #1
Wow. We are officially living in the Twilight Zone. I can't believe this was allowed to happen. Let me be clear. His shtick was funny but completely inappropriate to become a permanent part of the congressional record. Then again I'm sure most here will find it as cute as the democratics that invited him.
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2010-09-24, 3:29 PM #2
Its not cute. He's being seious, albeit in a joking manner, but still, he's making a legitimate point.

He said: "I like talking about people that don't have any power and it seems like one of the least powerful people in the UnitedStates are migrant workers who come and do our work but don't have any rights as a result," he said. "And yet we still invite them to come here and at the same time ask them to leave."

Do you not think that is a valid point, or is it just cute?
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2010-09-24, 3:57 PM #3
It's asinine.
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2010-09-24, 4:07 PM #4
I don't consider this any sort of outrageous, just kind of silly. I probably agree with one of the representatives who basically after the introduction said "is he done here?"

There's a reason he's an "actor". It's because he's not an expert at immigration or on farming. However, having said that, I respect that his being present at the ceremony would on the margin have more people interested/enlightened as to what is going on in the world. Honestly, how many of us would've known this hearing was going on if Colbert wouldn't of gone. If a government objective should be transparency than bringing more attention to an issue can only help be more transparent. More people are aware of what is going on. What could've been the absolute worst to come of having Colber testify? Meh

I think what Colbert is doing is quite awesome. He's showing some integrity. He's not working for sides, but he attracted an issue in a pretty moderate manner and got people to pay attention to it and have them form their own opinion about it without forcing an opinion down their throats. It's not often when you get a celebrity to approach an issue without some sort of extreme viewpoint.
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2010-09-24, 4:31 PM #5
Umm, okay, but this time we got to see his in-character nonsensical take on the issue. It adds nothing to the discussion other than a bunch of kids who believe what they see on Comedy Central is news.
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2010-09-24, 4:37 PM #6
His discussion point was that immigrants are treated like poo. I didn't really find it nonsensical.
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2010-09-24, 4:47 PM #7
If that is what his point was then he was incorrect although I don't agree that he actually had a point.
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2010-09-24, 4:51 PM #8
The sad thing is, the Colbert Report is closer to news than anything on Fox News is.
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2010-09-24, 5:02 PM #9
It seems to me that if you invite a comedian to a congressional hearing, you best be expecting some jokes.
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2010-09-24, 5:15 PM #10
Originally posted by Gettleburger:
His discussion point was that immigrants are treated like poo. I didn't really find it nonsensical.

That's what I got from it.

If it makes you feel better Wookie, I'm a filthy foreigner and I've never seen The Colbert Report. :P
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2010-09-24, 5:15 PM #11
Originally posted by EAH_TRISCUIT:
It seems to me that if you invite a comedian to a congressional hearing, you best be expecting some jokes.


Exactly, especially with him. I didn't have a problem with his routine just that he was invited to perform at an official hearing.

Originally posted by Antony:
The sad thing is, the Colbert Report is closer to news than anything on Fox News is.


You are such a tool and you never come across as actually being knowledgeable of anything. I also don't understand why you seem so obsessed with Fox News supposedly being inferior to satirical comedy. I'm guessing that even many of the members here who would agree with you probably think your repetitive posts on the subject are getting old.
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2010-09-24, 5:21 PM #12
Originally posted by Wookie06:
You are such a tool and you never come across as actually being knowledgeable of anything. I also don't understand why you seem so obsessed with Fox News supposedly being inferior to satirical comedy. I'm guessing that even many of the members here who would agree with you probably think your repetitive posts on the subject are getting old.

My repetitive posts about fox news are getting old?

:carl:
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2010-09-24, 5:34 PM #13
Hey Wookie, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
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2010-09-24, 5:45 PM #14
I hereby declare that the words "fox" & "news" are no longer permitted to be used in the same sentence.
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2010-09-24, 6:37 PM #15
I wonder, why was a comedian invited to speak at a House panel hearing anyway?
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2010-09-24, 6:45 PM #16
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Exactly, especially with him. I didn't have a problem with his routine just that he was invited to perform at an official hearing.

I completely agree with you there. Not that I personally have a problem with it, but I think it's not really a place to have people like Colbert along.



Originally posted by Wookie06:
Fox News supposedly being inferior to satirical comedy.


It is. A few years back I actually used to think Fox News was satirical comedy, ignorance truly was bliss.
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2010-09-24, 6:46 PM #17
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
I wonder, why was a comedian invited to speak at a House panel hearing anyway?


I believe the advocates said that it would be an easy (not to mention free) way of drawing attention to a rather large immigration issue, because it would get people interested in an issue that otherwise wouldn't be.

And I would argue he did just that. I think he could've been more tactful given his environment, though, he didn't really say much that would warrant a congressional testimony. So perhaps blame congress for overestimating him, or Colbert for wasting their time.
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2010-09-24, 6:47 PM #18
Well, he's not a comedian... he's a tv show host.

Secondly, probably because he's culturally significant.
>>untie shoes
2010-09-24, 6:48 PM #19
I guess that makes sense. But if they're going to invite a comedian, they probably shouldn't complain when he makes jokes.
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2010-09-24, 6:52 PM #20
I don't think it's that... Honestly I think some of the people got butthurt because they don't want to hear what he has to say.

Forget pragmatic thought, I guess.
>>untie shoes
2010-09-24, 7:00 PM #21
Yeah, Congress should be limited to influential people, like Nick Jonas, Kevin Costner, Sheryl Crow, 50% of Major League Baseball, Robert Redford, Dennis Quaid, The Backstreet Boys, and Elmo. They should go back to the good ol' days of persecuting celebrities for their connections to communism instead of revering them.

Not well informed people who have interviewed, explained, and keep tabs with some of the most influential and educated people in the world

Wookie's right guys, lay off of him.
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2010-09-24, 7:13 PM #22
Yes, it's true. Celebrities will never have any impact at all on what goes on politically in this country. The 1980s are proof of this.
>>untie shoes
2010-09-24, 8:03 PM #23
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2010-09-24, 9:24 PM #24
When I ask people why they don't like America so much, they pretty much describe you wookie.
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2010-09-24, 9:25 PM #25
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Wow. We are officially living in the Twilight Zone. I can't believe this was allowed to happen. Let me be clear. His shtick was funny but completely inappropriate to become a permanent part of the congressional record. Then again I'm sure most here will find it as cute as the democratics that invited him.


No, this is a really good thing. Probably the best thing that's happened in congress in years. They used to have court jesters employed to do exactly this.

Humor and satire are a powerful modes of human communication, and it's foolish to ignore them. It's one thing to have it on a TV show, but that just doesn't have the effectiveness of doing this kind of thing face to face with the people who are being criticized. As it is, people in power are allowed to feel too isolated and this causes them to take themselves too seriously to take their jobs seriously. With out this kind of thing, politicians have been able to hide absurd irrationality and pettiness behind an increasingly thin facade of seriousness and affected patriotism. By taking his act into congress's backyard, Colbert tore a mighty rip in that facade that has significance well beyond the issue he was discussing. Make no mistake, this is not cute, this is deadly serious, and he knew it.

This was completely appropriate. It was not comfortable, but that is the point. People don't think unless they're uncomfortable. By changing up the game, Colbert was able to make some important points on several different levels more effectively that any "serious" speech could have.
2010-09-24, 9:33 PM #26
Woah... I think Obi_Kwiet said everything that needed to be said here.
>>untie shoes
2010-09-24, 10:05 PM #27
Originally posted by Antony:
Well, he's not a comedian... he's a tv show host.


As we all know these two things are mutually exclusive
2010-09-24, 10:07 PM #28
The fact that he hosts a comedy show does not make him a comedian.

Chris Rock is a comedian, Stephen Colbert is a talk show host.
>>untie shoes
2010-09-24, 10:13 PM #29
Originally posted by Antony:
The fact that he hosts a comedy show does not make him a comedian.

Chris Rock is a comedian, Stephen Colbert is a talk show host.


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2010-09-24, 10:14 PM #30
If you want to debate semantics, this is just going to be retarded. By the same rationale you could say Glenn Beck is a comedian because he makes people laugh.
>>untie shoes
2010-09-25, 12:23 AM #31
Originally posted by Antony:
If you want to debate semantics, this is just going to be retarded. By the same rationale you could say Glenn Beck is a comedian because he makes people laugh.


Which would be silly, of course. People don't laugh at Glenn Beck because he's a comedian. They laugh at him because he's a clown.
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2010-09-25, 12:25 AM #32
I'm afraid of clowns
2010-09-25, 12:26 AM #33
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2010-09-25, 1:33 AM #34
I found the video amusing. Take that, CSPAN1.
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2010-09-25, 2:19 AM #35
Originally posted by Antony:
The fact that he hosts a comedy show does not make him a comedian.

Chris Rock is a comedian, Stephen Colbert is a talk show host.


Who'd think a channel called Comedy Central didn't have comedians? Craig Ferguson, David Letterman, Jay Leno, Conan, they're not comedians to you? Just desk jockeys in your television?
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2010-09-25, 4:47 AM #36
Originally posted by Antony:
The fact that he hosts a comedy show does not make him a comedian.


The guy is 100% sarcasm. He's definitely a comedian, he's just very deadpan.
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2010-09-25, 5:17 AM #37
what's better: a great tomato picked by a Mexican or a ****ty tomato picked by a non-Mexican?
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2010-09-25, 5:20 AM #38
Colbert's not deadpan.
2010-09-25, 5:33 AM #39
Wookie's trolling got old four months years ago.
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2010-09-25, 6:20 AM #40
Originally posted by JM:
Colbert's not deadpan.

He laughs at his own jokes too much for that. :P
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