FOXNEWS.COM FAIR AND BALANCED COVERAGE OF THE STORY. Really it's a pretty minor change. The Taliban will no longer be playable in multiplayer. Instead, "opposing forces" will be playable. Kind of reminds me of "terrorists and counter-terrorists". The single player game is unaffected. At least so far.

I heard about this controversy a week or two ago.. How is this any different than games in the past where you could play as Nazis and kill American soldiers (ie Battlefield 1942)?

Because World War II was so sixty years ago.

Everything is okay, eventually. We'll some day have comedic musicals about the Holocaust, and then 9/11, and whatever atrocities follow those. Mel Brooks made a musical about the Spanish Inquisition.

because not all german soldiers were nazis

you might know that if you weren't homeschooled

oh excuse me for speaking, jackass.

I'll be buying 5 copies now

fair and balanced just like a coin toss

Yeah, it's obvious that the time difference is the big reason for a lack of an outcry with multiplayer WW2 games.

Regardless of the time difference, however, the comparative lack of an outcry for WW2 games still paints those who were opposed to have playing taliban characters in this particular game in a negative light. It shows that when they say it's offensive, they are really saying "It's offensive to me," rather than "It's offensive to someone and I'm speaking up for them."

It does make their argument appear pretty self-centered and makes it readily apparent that they couldn't give a crap about what other people find offensive.

Wasn't there some game that took place in Afghanistan, and was actually partially developed and designed by veterans of the combat there, who had selected a video game as an effective means of telling their story? Yet when news about it was released, and the game it self came out, it still garnered considerable outcry from the public that it was insensitive to Afghanistan veterans?

Yes, this is true. In fact, very few German grunts were Nazis. Even many of the high ranking officers were just Germans who were serving in the military because that's just what they did for a living. They weren't all Jew hating Nazis.

Im pretty sure you all know about project Valkerie, it comes to show you that there were alot of Germans that were not Nazi Loyalists. I know because my Wifes Grandfather was imprisoned for refusing to display the Nazi Banner when Hitler visited the city where he resided.

my uncle was killed by a russian and now i'm offended that they have russian in bad company 2 multiplayer so someone could be playing a guy killing my uncle i think that is gloryfying it and that is bad!

You could play as the VC and NVA in battlefield vietnam, but i guess nobody ever did care about Vietnam veterans' feelings.

DO WE GET TO WIN THIS TIME

I think I have some german heritage and even though I don't know who they were I'm sure they weren't Nazis. 'cause I'm like gay and american and pro-jew, ya know?

You like em cut eh?

Also, why do you have to try to be the biggest troll on the planet, Wookie06?

I BLAME AMERIKKA FOR THIS

DEATH TO AMERIKKA!:argh:

Well, basically, it's called "a joke" and little guppy idiots like you that take the bait are called "the punchline".

Someday have comedy musicals about the holocaust?
The Producers would like a word with you, unless you meant "Someday" as relative to 1945.

I never got the impression that The Producers was about the Holocaust.

It's not, it's about a play about Hitler.

Hitler =/= The Holocaust.

Eh? History of the World Part I had a musical bit about the Spanish Inquisition, which I think most certainly had some horrific things done in its timespan. My point was that most people don't find it objectionable because it was so long ago; the same will eventually happen with the Holocaust and 9/11.

But regardless of whether or not they are equal I would carry it a bit further to state that:

about a play about Hitler =/= about Hitler

I think I implied that.

I think there should be a movie based upon this, if there hasn't been one yet that was produced. Or maybe a musical, cause this was actually consisdered the worst massacre in American history. I actually live about 30 miles south of where this took place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

That picture has kept me up real late before.


You know, for as tough and resilient as we are supposed to be, most veterans are over sensitive pussies who can't see past their own nose.

I don't think you implied it but I do believe it certainly should have been inferred. However, you should remember that you were responding, indirectly, to a post by Tibby. Considering that, I think my somewhat redundant post was appropriate.

You put the small end in your mouth and breath in, dumbass.

But stat! It's not really a pipe!

Yes, it is. The artist is just ****ing with you.

Guyz I heard it's a painting of a pipe insted

Yeah, it's a painting of a pipe. So, it's a pipe.

No, it's an image of a pipe

Yeah, it's a pipe.

There's always a damn contrarian.

That picture is stupid and doesn't deserve all of the attention is gets (or any attention ever).

grrr i wanted to post that but didn't know the filename on my HD.

I think that the family of ideas it represents is pretty important and especially relevant today.