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I live under the flight pattern for 3 major airports. Contrails change depending on perspective, sunlight, wind movement. An airplane in a sunset will reflect light *gasp* Also from straight on landing lights are really freaking bright.

They had something on the news about this earlier. Even NORAD is saying they don't see any fast-moving objects in their radar logs. Then again it's more likely they're lying and it was a rocket!

More proof: http://blog2.bahneman.com/content/it-was-us-airways-flight-808

It was a plane; what the hell.

Amazing how little we've actually changed since when we were apes living in trees. OH MY GOD A THING IN THE SKY, LET'S ALL PANIC AND CRAP OURSELVES

why did it take so long for them to figure out it was a plane???

A better question was why was it so quick for some people to assume it was a missile.

I especially like all the "expert" generals that immediately said "THATS A MISSILE I KNOW FOR SURE." What ****ing idiots.

I told you it wasn't a stupid plane:

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-517867

If it was a commercial airliner I would like to know why the FAA had been reporting that there were no planes in the area at that time.

It's an every day event, they told the media to **** off because they didn't care

lol, I'm assuming you're aware that's on the user-generated bit of cnn.com?



The guy who wrote it credits a [url]www.info-wars.com[/url] article by this guy, Wayne Madsen, who apparently "tackles the 'politically incorrect' and 'politically embarrassing' stories and holds government officials accountable for their actions."

So.

I am now. :/

Took me a minute, too

Why the hell would a news organization basically allow those types of unsubstantiated bloggy posts under their banner? That's a retarded policy that I hope bites them in the arse.

because SOCIAL NETWORKING WEB 2.0 BLOGOSPHERE

I believe Info Wars is an Alex Jones tinfoil hat website.

Anything that gets hot and moves in the air can form a con trail.

Propellers which are equipped with electrical anti-icing systems, for example, can form a con trail under the right conditions.

http://project7alpha.com/wp1/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/b-17_flying_fortress.jpg

^Thats a pretty cool picture of propeller contrails.

Contrail shape, length, size etc are determined by many factors. I want to say the reason why a commercial airliner leaves a flat tape-wormy contrail is because of the way a high bypass turbofan engine works.

A turbofan engine is nothing but a big propeller spinning in a tube. It develops almost all of it's thrust by moving air around the core engine, as much as something like 85%.

I remember reading about contrail shapes for an assignment in school, but I have no idea what text book it would be in because contrails can be created by nearly any surface of an aircraft.

I found the bit in the 14CFR FAR about landing lights and navigation lights but I can't link directly to it, and I forgot which part it's under.

If you're super curious about contrails, aircraft, or the FARs (Federal Aviation Regulations) check out FAA.gov.

The FAA writes their own set of text books. They are all Advisory Circular 65.**

For example the general text book is AC65-9A. These are available for free on the FAA's website. You can also look up aircraft by their N number, and EVERY mechanic is listed on that website, with their phone number and address. (I don't have my license yet, you'll have to wait until early next year to prank call me)