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An Obama political cartoon
2011-02-16, 7:24 PM #1
So, as I've stated in the past, I occaisionally tune to MSNBC for comedy value. Last night I did so. Now, I knew some schmuck took Olbermann's time slot after he wasn't fired for making political contributions and I knew the guy was pretty lackluster but I was seriously surprised last night. I hated Olbermann but his brand of stupidity at least offered a pretty significant comedic value. So I tuned in about halfway through this guy's, Lawrence O'Donnell's, rant about some cartoon. A minute or so into it I realize it's not just some routine. It's this guy being as sincere, or pretending to be as sincere, as he can be. I would like you to watch the segment and then view the innocuous comic and then tell me your thoughts. Or ignore this thread entirely lest you be "trolled" into calling me a "disgusting monster".

Video.

Comic.
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2011-02-16, 7:29 PM #2
Seems a bit premature to call Michelle Obama the most-admired African American woman, given people like Rosa Parks. But maybe that's just an American's perspectives - anyone from NOT AMERICA care to chime in on the relevancy of Rosa Parks versus Michelle Obama?

That said, the comic doesn't even make sense.
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2011-02-16, 7:30 PM #3
I don't get it either
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2011-02-16, 7:31 PM #4
Also I feel compelled to point out that his ears are FAR too large, even for a caricature :colbert:
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2011-02-16, 7:34 PM #5
Are they just trying to say she's fat? She doesn't seem fat to me.
2011-02-16, 7:35 PM #6
Man, say what you will, but at least political cartoons about George Bush made sense.

It's not even that this isn't funny, it's that it's not even "not funny". It doesn't attempt to have a joke. She isn't fat, so it's not a fat joke. She isn't muslim or jewish, so it's not a bacon joke. She's eating a lot of hamburgers, I guess, and Obama's eating just a bit of veggies, but that's a setup, not a punchline. She's not eating fried chicken, so it's not a racist joke, and he's got huge ears so I really don't know where this is supposed to go. Is the third panel missing, maybe?

-Also, if this were a better political cartoon, that 57 would be a reference to John Kerry.
2011-02-16, 7:38 PM #7
Originally posted by Emon:
I don't get it either


I assume it's just some attempt to allege hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Emon:
Also I feel compelled to point out that his ears are FAR too large, even for a caricature :colbert:


I think the ears are silly huge, in exaggerated rodent proportions. I believe that is due to Barry's sensitivity to his big ears. The hilarious thing is that that isn't even Larry's problem with the comic. I guess his problem is that Michelle was accurately portrayed as a black woman. You should note that my perspective on this was tuning in halfway through the segment, hearing all the "outrage" and then just minutes ago viewing the strip and saying, "wtf?"
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2011-02-16, 7:43 PM #8
Originally posted by Brian:
Are they just trying to say she's fat? She doesn't seem fat to me.


I wouldn't particularly call her fat either but she is a little chunky and a little ungainly and awkward I think.

Originally posted by Jarl:
-Also, if this were a better political cartoon, that 57 would be a reference to John Kerry.


Interesting observation but I bet you it was.

Yeah, I don't see anything particularly remarkable about the cartoon either but that includes all of this feigned and boring outrage on Larry's part.
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2011-02-16, 7:46 PM #9
Hahah John Kerry, what an ugly ****

Did a Jeep drive over his face in Vietnam or what
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2011-02-16, 8:13 PM #10
Originally posted by Brian:
Are they just trying to say she's fat? She doesn't seem fat to me.


But DAT AZZ.
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2011-02-16, 8:18 PM #11
Is this what passes for political commentary in America?
Is this secretly an onion cartoon?
2011-02-16, 8:53 PM #12
Originally posted by Jarl:
It's not even that this isn't funny, it's that it's not even "not funny". It doesn't attempt to have a joke.


This pretty much describes every "conservative" comic I've ever seen. The cartoons on The Onion pretty much just take the standard conservative cartoon formula and raise the poe's-law factor a bit, which for some reason results in hilarity.
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2011-02-16, 9:09 PM #13
Yeah, that guy's ridiculously easily offended by something relatively innocuous. That being said, there's no comedic value to that cartoon.
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2011-02-16, 9:20 PM #14
So we're all agreed? Lame cartoon and over-sensitive tool.
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2011-02-16, 9:23 PM #15
The fact that he called it racist and got mad is what made it hilarious to me. :XD:
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2011-02-16, 9:25 PM #16
Originally posted by Deadman:
So we're all agreed? Lame cartoon and over-sensitive tool. Tibby's an idiot.


Fixed now and, I think, all agreed.
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2011-02-16, 9:27 PM #17
Why the personal attack? Tibby was speaking along the same lines as everyone else in this thread
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2011-02-16, 9:28 PM #18
A fair question.
2011-02-16, 9:35 PM #19
Originally posted by Deadman:
So we're all agreed? Lame cartoon and over-sensitive tool.


Lol, you said "over-sensitive tool."
2011-02-16, 9:43 PM #20
Hey! It's a very real problem affecting 1 in 5 American men!!
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2011-02-16, 10:46 PM #21
There you go with the sweeping generalizations again, Deadman! You come over here and do some first and second hand research before you make those kind of claims!
2011-02-17, 1:03 AM #22
*hangs head in shame*
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2011-02-17, 4:56 AM #23
I hate when some dumbass posts nothing but 'lol!' in an obviously sarcasm riddled thread that still appears to be serious and thus ruins everyone's fun by making the thread's comedic nature explicit.
2011-02-17, 4:57 AM #24
lol!
2011-02-17, 9:24 AM #25
WEll, I guess I get the jab about hypocrisy, but it's not particulary funny or clever.
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2011-02-17, 9:29 AM #26
Also... OBAMA IS BLACK!!!!!!! Dear god someone alert the press!!!!! What does this guy want!? Not to depict Obama? Because it is inherently racist to have a black person as the butt of a political cartoon? Would it help if Obama was shown as a white dude? I wouldn't think it would but maybe it would be a soothing balm for the over sensitive tool?
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2011-02-17, 10:38 AM #27
Originally posted by Wolfy:
Seems a bit premature to call Michelle Obama the most-admired African American woman, given people like Rosa Parks. But maybe that's just an American's perspectives - anyone from NOT AMERICA care to chime in on the relevancy of Rosa Parks versus Michelle Obama?

I don't even know who Rosa Parks is. :v:

The cartoon is neither funny nor witty, whoever the "news" bloke is seems crap at his job and Wookie's first post reads like it's just trying to stir up the same moronic argument he keeps on having over and over. [Minus Joncy.]
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2011-02-17, 11:04 AM #28
I didn't get anything out of the comic. It's stupid.
Though I did have a few laughs as the guy over emphasized how disgusting every little detail was.

You know, Michelle looks more like Oprah in this.
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2011-02-17, 12:33 PM #29
Originally posted by Phantom-Seraph:
You know, Michelle looks more like Oprah in this.

I thought it WAS supposed to be Oprah until I finished reading the comic. I admittedly haven't see much of Michelle, but I never got the impression she was fat in any way.

I have nothing else to add that everyone else hasn't already added.
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2011-02-17, 12:37 PM #30
The comic was pretty stupid but that guys reaction to it on the video was pretty good.. what a tool haha..
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2011-02-17, 12:43 PM #31
oh look, the loud sassy black woman stereotype
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2011-02-17, 1:03 PM #32
Originally posted by Wolfy:
Seems a bit premature to call Michelle Obama the most-admired African American woman, given people like Rosa Parks. But maybe that's just an American's perspectives - anyone from NOT AMERICA care to chime in on the relevancy of Rosa Parks versus Michelle Obama?

Rosa Parks doesn't really hold much significance for most people outside of the US. I'd heard of her but beyond the famous refusal to give up a seat, I don't know what she did beyond that to make her so admirable.

There are plenty of other African-American women I reckon are more well-known (and admired?) than Michelle Obama in the English-speaking world: Oprah Winfrey, Whoopi Goldberg, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Toni Morrison etc.
2011-02-17, 1:07 PM #33
Originally posted by Gebohq:
I thought it WAS supposed to be Oprah until I finished reading the comic. I admittedly haven't see much of Michelle, but I never got the impression she was fat in any way.

It looks somewhat like Oprah & not at all like Mrs. Obama. She's nowhere near being fat or even "chunky" unless you consider anorexics to be normal. The comic as well as the MSNBC show are stupid. No one cares about either except for Wookie & the douchebag host of said show. The fact that either of these things (the comic & the host) were able to get on television (& a "news" station at that) just shows you the sad state of the industry these days.
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2011-02-17, 2:44 PM #34
Originally posted by Deadman:
Why the personal attack? Tibby was speaking along the same lines as everyone else in this thread

Is this ever going to get answered?
2011-02-17, 2:48 PM #35
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
oh look, the loud sassy black woman stereotype


Stereotype?

Originally posted by Mentat:
No one cares about either except for Wookie & the douchebag host of said show.


I couldn't care less about the thing other than to point out the "over-sensitive tool". I thought the entire thing was ridiculous.
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2011-02-17, 2:52 PM #36
Originally posted by Tibby:
Is this ever going to get answered?


Sorry, some of us still have jobs. Mostly it was due to this but I might have misunderstood the post:

Originally posted by Tibby:
Is this what passes for political commentary in America?
Is this secretly an onion cartoon?


If that post was entirely directed at the comic then, yeah, you're dumb but if the first question was about Larry (or you're going to retcon it to be that way) then it's fine.
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2011-02-17, 3:08 PM #37
The whole thing was about the cartoon, I didn't even watch the video I can guess at what it is.
2011-02-17, 3:31 PM #38
Cool, now I don't even need to defend the comment.
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2011-02-17, 8:02 PM #39
I'm just gonna sit over here and wait for wookie to start making sense
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2011-02-17, 8:28 PM #40
I'll join you.
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