I had fully intended to get to this last night when I posted yesterday but I was too tired an apathetic when I got home and now that a day has passed I've lost interest. About all I was going to research much into dealt with firearm statistics. What I was thinking about was along the lines that even though law enforcement could be considered a hazardous profession, the training, fact that they're armed, along with some other things seem to me would be factors that reduce the likelihood of them being killed. Like I said, I have lost interest.

I'm tired. When I get stressed I get tired. Terrible slow my metabolism down tired. I don't even have any real reason to feel stressed now but I do. Actually, I know what it is. It's when I have things to do that are not finished. Of course there are holiday items going on now, haven't done any shopping. Got my Jeep up and running in good order now it appears I have a brake issue going on in my truck so I pulled that in the garage last night, busted the wheels off it when I got home today. I think it has to do with the parking brakes but we'll see. Got a finance thing in the process which is a positive thing but since it is new to me and I can't see it in black and white yet the mystery part of it is getting to me.

Participating in discussion here used to be a diversion. It's not particularly enjoyable anymore and, even though I just said I feel stressed right now, in so many ways my life is better than it ever has been. This place used to fill a void that no longer exists. It's why, after a very slight learning curve, I don't take any of this personal here anymore. It's why it doesn't bother me when any of you call me the things you should certainly know I'm not. I've never been a janitor, a racist, a homophobe, etc. And, for God's sake, what's wrong with being a janitor? If that's what a guy needs to do to provide for their family, so be it. What some of you claim I am to minorities, you actually are to many hard working people that are busy working to provide for their families.

I've gone off on a tangent here but there is one final point that I'm going to make using some of my experiences as an example. It's not to garner sympathy for myself but illustrate a broader point. First, I'm considered "human trash" by many of you here. Specifically in this thread because I advocate violence against those that hold a different world view. Clearly, that is not what I advocate. I didn't advocate anything. I simply stated that it would not be surprising if someone insulting people the way they do here might get punched in the face if they did it in person. Ironically, I'm the one being insulted because I hold a different view. Certainly not "world view". That's dumb, we all would certainly agree on many principles. Anyway, my point is that you never know what a person is going through when you choose to hurl insults. Because I haven't shared many things on this board doesn't mean I'm living some blissful existence, free from life's hurdles. I never shared when my father died, rather terribly, in the hospital and I had to say good bye over the phone not knowing if he even understood me while my mom had to deal with the drama alone thousands of miles away. More recently I never shared my wife's cancer scare. I haven't come to ask for those famous Massassi vibes for surgery I need to have in a couple weeks. I don't believe I ever shared how heart breaking it is to leave your family for a year not knowing if it will be the last time you will see them and wondering how they will manage with out you either temporarily or permanently.

I share this now not to try to change the way you treat me but to hopefully think to just treat anybody as you would like to be treated. I get it, and can handle it, if you want to treat me like a pos but I see no reason for you to continue tormenting SF_Gold for age old crap. The man has apologized far more profusely than you'll ever get from me and he doesn't deserve your ****. For Christ's sake, did those of you that wanted members unbanned only want them back to troll them into fights? So what if he or I or anyone isn't as God damned smart as anyone else around here? What makes any of you more special than anybody else to feel so justified in the way you treat others?

I could go on but, guess what? I'm going to go read with my son, tuck him in, and then go to bed.

I'm feeling better already.

I didn't advocate anything.

I had fully intended to get to this last night when I posted yesterday but I was too tired an apathetic when I got home and now that a day has passed I've lost interest. About all I was going to research much into dealt with firearm statistics. What I was thinking about was along the lines that even though law enforcement could be considered a hazardous profession, the training, fact that they're armed, along with some other things seem to me would be factors that reduce the likelihood of them being killed. Like I said, I have lost interest.

I'm tired. When I get stressed I get tired. Terrible slow my metabolism down tired. I don't even have any real reason to feel stressed now but I do. Actually, I know what it is. It's when I have things to do that are not finished. Of course there are holiday items going on now, haven't done any shopping. Got my Jeep up and running in good order now it appears I have a brake issue going on in my truck so I pulled that in the garage last night, busted the wheels off it when I got home today. I think it has to do with the parking brakes but we'll see. Got a finance thing in the process which is a positive thing but since it is new to me and I can't see it in black and white yet the mystery part of it is getting to me.

Participating in discussion here used to be a diversion. It's not particularly enjoyable anymore and, even though I just said I feel stressed right now, in so many ways my life is better than it ever has been. This place used to fill a void that no longer exists. It's why, after a very slight learning curve, I don't take any of this personal here anymore. It's why it doesn't bother me when any of you call me the things you should certainly know I'm not. I've never been a janitor, a racist, a homophobe, etc. And, for God's sake, what's wrong with being a janitor? If that's what a guy needs to do to provide for their family, so be it. What some of you claim I am to minorities, you actually are to many hard working people that are busy working to provide for their families.

I've gone off on a tangent here but there is one final point that I'm going to make using some of my experiences as an example. It's not to garner sympathy for myself but illustrate a broader point. First, I'm considered "human trash" by many of you here. Specifically in this thread because I advocate violence against those that hold a different world view. Clearly, that is not what I advocate. I didn't advocate anything. I simply stated that it would not be surprising if someone insulting people the way they do here might get punched in the face if they did it in person. Ironically, I'm the one being insulted because I hold a different view. Certainly not "world view". That's dumb, we all would certainly agree on many principles. Anyway, my point is that you never know what a person is going through when you choose to hurl insults. Because I haven't shared many things on this board doesn't mean I'm living some blissful existence, free from life's hurdles. I never shared when my father died, rather terribly, in the hospital and I had to say good bye over the phone not knowing if he even understood me while my mom had to deal with the drama alone thousands of miles away. More recently I never shared my wife's cancer scare. I haven't come to ask for those famous Massassi vibes for surgery I need to have in a couple weeks. I don't believe I ever shared how heart breaking it is to leave your family for a year not knowing if it will be the last time you will see them and wondering how they will manage with out you either temporarily or permanently.

I share this now not to try to change the way you treat me but to hopefully think to just treat anybody as you would like to be treated. I get it, and can handle it, if you want to treat me like a pos but I see no reason for you to continue tormenting SF_Gold for age old crap. The man has apologized far more profusely than you'll ever get from me and he doesn't deserve your ****. For Christ's sake, did those of you that wanted members unbanned only want them back to troll them into fights? So what if he or I or anyone isn't as God damned smart as anyone else around here? What makes any of you more special than anybody else to feel so justified in the way you treat others?

I could go on but, guess what? I'm going to go read with my son, tuck him in, and then go to bed.

I'm feeling better already.

"In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger."

I'd argue that Jon`C and Antony make their attacks as a way to send you a message when you repeatedly fail to recognize or respond to their intellectual arguments and their full implications. The moment you begin to agree with the parts of their points that are valid (you can't surely think that they are 100% wrong 100% of the time), you might find that they reciprocate by taking your own ideas more seriously.