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Goodbye Net Neutrality
2017-11-21, 10:41 AM #1
It's been real guys, but we need to come up with a backup communications plan so we can continue spewing passive aggressive vitriol at each other. Any amateur radio operators here?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2017-11-21, 10:46 AM #2
I have Comcast. If they start limiting access to services I really like, I'm going to cancel, mail the **** back, buy a laptop and use the universities internet.

No joke, not worth paying for a service that exists to hemorrhage you of cash. I don't pay the electric bill to get sold dominion brand microwaves as well.
2017-11-21, 10:49 AM #3
Also, America is converging on being a 3rd world country. I should probably learn a second language.
2017-11-21, 10:50 AM #4
Originally posted by Reid:
Also, America is converging on being a 3rd world country. I should probably learn a second language.


Yeah I was thinking Spanish because I just learned I am 1/4 Mexican but I don't know if that is the direciton I should be moving. Maybe I should learn Russian?

I also already only use Unviersity internet because I don't want Comcast etc. in my home.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2017-11-21, 10:55 AM #5
Originally posted by Spook:
Yeah I was thinking Spanish because I just learned I am 1/4 Mexican but I don't know if that is the direciton I should be moving. Maybe I should learn Russian?

I also already only use Unviersity internet because I don't want Comcast etc. in my home.


Russian if you want to work for intelligence, sure. I was thinking some more western European language.

I bought internet because I sometimes play games, and because I do programming work for a CA based company. So the only communication we have is online. I could survive using the university's internet, but there might even be legal problems with that, and moreover it's super inconvenient, especially since I don't own a laptop. But a decent Lenovo is like, 300 or so, I could swing that for a machine that gets things done.
2017-11-21, 10:57 AM #6
Nah I can't work for intelligence I have too big of a mouth. Definitely not going to Europe, it's going to freeze as soon as ocean circulations change. Maybe Canadian?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2017-11-21, 1:26 PM #7
Canadiun’s a skookum language, eh? Boot yah gotta be a pure blood hoser to make it chooch.
2017-11-21, 1:29 PM #8
I hope Ajit Pai was smart enough to ask the telecoms not to throttle porn until everyone’s forgotten where he lives.
2017-11-21, 2:03 PM #9
Who is FR?
2017-11-21, 2:05 PM #10
Some arguments in favor of the AT&T/Time Warner merger seem especially silly in light of the end of net neutrality.

https://twitter.com/cnntoday/status/932757389144612864
former entrepreneur
2017-11-21, 2:21 PM #11
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Canadiun’s a skookum language, eh? Boot yah gotta be a pure blood hoser to make it chooch.


Get that Kanuckistan vidjayo guy's propaganda outta here, us Americans are pissin' with the cocks we got.
2017-11-21, 2:24 PM #12
Originally posted by Spook:
Nah I can't work for intelligence I have too big of a mouth. Definitely not going to Europe, it's going to freeze as soon as ocean circulations change. Maybe Canadian?


**** maybe think long, Antarctica's gonna be some prime real estate once **** gets too melty.
2017-11-21, 2:26 PM #13
Originally posted by Eversor:
Some arguments in favor of the AT&T/Time Warner merger seem especially silly in light of the end of net neutrality.

https://twitter.com/cnntoday/status/932757389144612864


"They don't understand what the DoJ's case is here!"

Really firing on all cylinders there...
2017-11-21, 2:32 PM #14
I wonder who these "anti-trust lawyers [he's] been speaking with" are. They seem... made up.
former entrepreneur
2017-11-21, 2:40 PM #15
Anti-trust lawyers in the US. Hahaha. Well, at least the hours are good.
2017-11-21, 3:22 PM #16
[https://i.imgur.com/QGxoLM7.jpg]

I’ve seen this picture around and I wanted to clarify something that people don’t seem to understand.

If two services are commonly used together, or are interesting to the same audience, they will never be bundled together.

There will be no “games” bundle. World of Warcraft will be bundled with the Wall Street Journal. 4chan will be bundled with Huffington Post. Pornhub will be bundled with Office 365. Google won’t be in the basic package, it’ll be Bing.

Bundles are always designed to maximize the number of bundles that users have to buy.
2017-11-21, 3:27 PM #17
You had me at realArcade.
2017-11-21, 5:44 PM #18
What the hell, they actually managed to end net neutrality in the US? I thought that was opposed vehemently? This sets an awful precedent from where I'm looking...
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2017-11-21, 6:35 PM #19
Fortunately anti-American sentiment is strong enough in Canada that we are guaranteed to do the opposite. Case in point, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/as-us-prepares-to-gut-net-neutrality-rules-canada-strengthens-them/ . So at least for a little while I’m not too worried about the Americans setting a precedent that will affect me.
2017-11-21, 9:03 PM #20
Videos are a waste of bandwidth anyway.
2017-11-21, 9:21 PM #21
There are a LOT of people online talking about killing Ajit Pai. I know it probably doesn’t mean anything but I’ve never seen so many people saying a public official needs to die before. Yikes.
2017-11-21, 10:08 PM #22
Well, when you have an administration and congress that's nakedly ****ing over the American public in the most unabashed way possible, what are people to feel?
2017-11-21, 10:26 PM #23
This coming from the nation without universal health care et al, I'm not sure what the ultimate beef about this should be for a non-American.
Star Wars: TODOA | DXN - Deus Ex: Nihilum
2017-11-21, 10:38 PM #24
Comcast: "Where's the beef?"
2017-11-21, 10:40 PM #25
Maybe slow internet connectivity will cause people to exercise more, relieving us from the need for healthcare at all.
2017-11-21, 10:49 PM #26
Originally posted by Jon`C:
There are a LOT of people online talking about killing Ajit Pai. I know it probably doesn’t mean anything but I’ve never seen so many people saying a public official needs to die before. Yikes.


I'd be less concerned about John Oliver's audience than /pol/. At least the first group consists of people who have something to lose in life, and also aren't gun crazy.
2017-11-21, 10:51 PM #27
Originally posted by Nikumubeki:
This coming from the nation without universal health care et al, I'm not sure what the ultimate beef about this should be for a non-American.


Because sick people dying matters less than slow Netflix to most people.
2017-11-21, 10:54 PM #28
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Fortunately anti-American sentiment is strong enough in Canada that we are guaranteed to do the opposite. Case in point, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/as-us-prepares-to-gut-net-neutrality-rules-canada-strengthens-them/ . So at least for a little while I’m not too worried about the Americans setting a precedent that will affect me.


You should be more worried that America is on your border. Americans are really, really nervous about the future, everyone pretty much expects only bad things to happen. And whatever happens here is going to affect you in some way.
2017-11-21, 10:54 PM #29
something something bread and circuses
2017-11-21, 10:55 PM #30
Canada and America form a symbiont circle, whatever affects one of us affects the other, you must understand this!
2017-11-21, 10:55 PM #31
Originally posted by Reid:
You should be more worried that America is on your border. Americans are really, really nervous about the future, everyone pretty much expects only bad things to happen. And whatever happens here is going to affect you in some way.


I'm sure if California wanted to become a province, we could make something happen.
2017-11-21, 11:00 PM #32
Don't forget Alabama.
2017-11-21, 11:10 PM #33
Originally posted by Reverend Jones:
Don't forget Alabama.


nah I'm good thanks
2017-11-21, 11:21 PM #34
Were ISPs not turning a big enough profit due to net neutrality? I realize America is run by corporations, and that's my best explanation for why there was the political will to push this through. Maybe there's something that I've missed, though.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2017-11-21, 11:22 PM #35
Originally posted by Krokodile:
Were ISPs not turning a big enough profit due to net neutrality? I realize America is run by corporations, and that's my best explanation for why there was the political will to push this through. Maybe there's something that I've missed, though.


2017-11-21, 11:32 PM #36
"Sad!" -Donald John Trump
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2017-11-21, 11:40 PM #37
Originally posted by Jon`C:

I wish they broke down incomes further, IIRC middle class people have a slight positive correlation and the bottom 50% have an inverse correlation with policy.
2017-11-21, 11:54 PM #38
I watched that video now. It was very well made, nicely concise and all. It's nothing I didn't intuitively expect and partly know, but damn if it isn't depressing.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2017-11-22, 2:08 AM #39
On the other hand, what a great things for Democrats to run against in 2020 -- and then do nothing about once they're in office.

Is anything better evidence of how useless Obama was as a president, than that he was incapable of passing legislation that would've protected net neutrality, instead of leaving this choice in the hands of a federal agency?
former entrepreneur
2017-11-22, 2:13 AM #40
To be fair to the Democrats, don't they have to contend with a sizable political opponent in the legislature? It's apparently hard to pass laws in the US if one party is dead against it.
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