Were DVDs for the original Star Wars Trilogy not released?

Or have I been living under a rock?

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Without any explanations:

No.

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

The originals : No

The george lucas tainted (more tainted than special editions) versions : Yes

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
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Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

How are they more tainted than the special editions?

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Classic Trilogy Ultimate Edition in the Works
Thu, Nov 20, 03 09:33:04 PM EST

It has been reported all over the web and on this website for months, though now there's a resurgence in the rumors that an eventual and final release of the Classic Trilogy is coming. Where these rumors are coming from now is a person emailing a list of changes to websites and telling them work is being done. And while we can defintiely confirm that ILM is working on the movies for plenty of enhancements, the list may not be accurate.
Here's the run down of possible and very rumored changes:

Episode IV: A New Hope

The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first appearance on Princess Leia's ship.
When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin's Theme plays in the background and then it turns into the Imperial March as he talks about Vader.
The lightsaber effects have been redone and the frame jumps of lightsabers being turned on has been removed.
There's a new scene which has been shot during the filming of Episode III in which the Emperor dissolves the Senate.
In the Cantina, the Duros (green aliens guys) have been replaced with Neimoidians and some aliens from the prequels have been added.
The bleeding arm on the floor in the Cantina has been replaced with a non-bleeding arm because it's now canon that lightsabers cauterize wounds.
The original shooting scene between Han and Greedo has been restored.
Jabba the Hutt has been given a makeover and Han no longer steps on his tale.
In place of R2 wobbling down the stairs to the Falcon's hangar, a CG R2 navigating the stairs like he does in Attack of the Clones was added.
The white boxes around space ships have been removed and new CG shots have been added.
The scene of the Falcon being chased by the two Star Destroyers was modified. The Falcon now does spinning moves, avoiding the Star Destroyers' fire.
When the Death Star destroys Alderaan there's a new scene of Yoda's reaction to the disturbance in the Force that is created by all those deaths and then it cuts to Obi-Wan reacting to it as well.
The Dianoga has gotten a CG makeover and were are now able to see more of the creature.
The Death Star's paneling and computers have been slightly altered to show similar displays to those in the prequels.
The words "Tractor Beam" with Aurebesh lettering.
More stormtroopers have been added to the Death Star.
Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for use with all the stormtroopers.
The Obi-Wan/Vader duel has been spruced up. It is much more epic and there is much more movement. A modified version of Duel of the Fates is being considered for the scene.
The Death Star plans that are taken from R2 have been updated. When the Rebels are reviewing the Death Star plans they look similar to the plans we see in Attack of the Clones.
The Death Star battle is much more epic with more Tie Fighters and more Rebels being blown to bits. We get to see old Naboo starfighters being used by the Rebels.
There's a new scene (shot during Episode III) where Darth Vader goes to Coruscant and lands his ship in the same building Count Dooku does at the end of Attack of the Clones. Except now the building is all fixed up and it is now Palpatine's palace. He meets with Palpatine to ask for forgiveness for his failure and inform him of a new potential who is strong in the Force.
Chewbacca now gets a medal.


Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

The taun-tauns are now CG.
The battle of Hoth is much more epic. We see the Imperial ships land on Hoth and release AT-ATs. The AT-ATs have been sped up a bit. There's a ground battle between the Rebel soldiers and stormtroopers featuring new ships and vehicles.
Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for the older Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.
The white boxes around space ships have been removed.
The slug monster is CG.
Ian McDiarmid has refilmed scenes as the Emperor. The conversations between Vader and Palpatine is now longer and features a few connections to the prequels.
Yoda's face is now animated in CG allowing more expression of emotions yet his movements remain the same. Also two deleted scenes featuring Yoda instructing Luke have been restored.
A new scene was shot in which the stormtroopers, after they capture Han, Leia and Chewie, bring Vader the box containing C-3PO in pieces. Vader orders the stormtroopers to bring the broken droid to Chewbacca's cell so that he can fix him.
The lightsaber effects have been redone in certain parts.
Luke's fall from Cloud City has been reshot against bluescreen using a stuntman.


Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

Jabba the Hutt is now a combination of the puppet and CG.
The Rancor is CG and looks disgusting as ever.
Yoda is CG. Yoda disappears leaving his clothes behind like Obi-Wan now.
The ewoks are now mostly CG and there are a lot more of them.
The plan is to insert the love theme Across the Stars when Luke is talking with Leia about their mother.
Temuera Morrison's like before is now the voice for Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.
In the battle of Endor there are thousands of Ewoks and they are more vicious than there midgets-in-suits counterparts. More bite the dust now.
White boxes around ships removed.
The black blotches around Palpatine's face are gone.
Some of the lightsaber effects have been redone. The shadows that the lightsabers made on the floor are gone.
During Anakin's death scene it starts with a sad rendition of the Imperial March and slowly evolves into Anakin's Theme.
Sebastion Shaw who played Anakin when he was unmasked has been replaced with Hayden Christenson in make-up to make him look older. Anakin has much more dialogue. He apologizes for the destruction he caused, he thanks his son for turning him back to the light, he tells his son to rebuild the Jedi and he says he loves him and his sister. Just before he dies he says, "It is finished...".
We see more planets celebrating at the end of the movie. We see an aged Jar Jar, who is now the leader of the Gungans, on Naboo celebrating with the people of Naboo and the Gungans. We see an old Watto, who is now unable to fly, sitting in a hover chair cheering on Tatooine. During these scenes Across the Stars plays transitioning to the victory celebration music at the Ewok tree village.
Anakin's spirit is now played by Hayden Christenson with make-up to make him look his age. He looks on proudly at his son Luke with the spirit of Padme by his side.
Again, these are more of a wish list than accurate information.
We also wanted to tell you something perhaps even more significant. Episode I: The Phantom Menace is getting a full overhaul as well. We'll leave you with that for now.

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

I won't belive in this. When the words come directly from George Lucas, I will accept the crappy truth. But before that, NO!

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

Heres a thread on it, read it if you wish

http://forums.massassi.net/html/Forum1/HTML/031608.html

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

Who said anything about GL telling the truth?

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"So there I was completely naked and covered in tartar sauce..."

I dont think you understand.. For George Lucas, these movies arent for you, me or anyone else.. These movies are HIS, and he'll do whatever the damn hell he wants

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

an EP1 overhaul would be nice, but it could also make it worse than it currently is.

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mmm, smells like something burning.

Spot on. I hate people that think he shouldn't do that to the movies. He doesn't follow the EU because they are not his books or his stories (he might need to pay royalties).

He does the special editions to make it like his origonal vision(he doesn't have to use 1980's technology because fanboys like them like that).

The reason for the CGI in the new films is because that is the technology level required to impress the viewers of today. the originals worked in the eighties because they were made in the eighties.

People complain about jar jar, why they do this I don't know. George Lucas specificly said jar jar was supposed to be a dedicated comic relief. He was supposed to make you laugh, not **** you off. You don't even know if he has an extremly important role in the next film. He could very well be the one to incite the rebellion.

My $0.02

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'

um, so we shouldn't dislike Jar Jar then because Lucas doesn't want us to? It doesn't work that way. I know full well Jar Jar was there for comic relief and I know full well he failed miserably at it. Good comic relief should make you laugh, not groan and roll your eyes.

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Corrupting the kiddies since '97

it was supposed to make the kids laugh, otherwise they would stay away.

to a comment in the dead thread on the same topic,

george lucas is makeing the prequals not to milk the money cow, but to finish what he started back in 1977.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'

Is that even possible?



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You're entering a world of pain.

But yet he makes it a movie the whole family can enjoy.. hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... wonder why that could be, maybe to make more money?

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

i meant that it wasn't a tipical milk the money cow till it dies venture.

he does it to get some money but also to turn his vision into reality.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'

You're not giving kids enough credit if you think they would have avoided EP1 without Jar Jar.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian & A Very Massassian Xmas
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

Personally I think his new "vision" is asinine. The original Star Wars was a cult classic for a reason, why adulterate it (didn't it win awards too?)?

By the way, at what age are you considered a kid? I'm asking this because I saw Episode 1 when I was 11 and absolutely abhorred Jar Jar. Oh and wasn't there a fan's edit of Episode 1 where many scenes of Jar Jar and Anakin were cutted?

yes there was, the people that did it got in trouble for copyright breach.

I am 17 and i still laugh at jar jar. You are just expecting what you read in EU books and more of the original films.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'

Overhaul.... As in "This movie NEVER happened and we re-film it with a far superior script"?

I'll go for that.



Bull****. He used it just because. No one has TRIED to make a decent movie WITHOUT the use of CGI in recent times. No one bothers to use models anymore, we just do it in a freaking computer. The ONLY movie I've seen recently that actually used CGI to help the story along and not freaking rely on it was LotR. Ep.I relied on it. Ep.II relied on it. LotR used the CGI to enhance what they had. There were countless places in LotR that could have been done with CGI that instead used models and full scale sets.

I'll bet good money that with 80's technology you could make a movie that'd sell. Maybe not blockbuster, but you could get on up there. Movies today have lost sight of a little thing known as plot. THAT is what Star Wars had that it doesn't now. THAT is what older movies had that new movies don't. And THAT is what makes a really good movie. Not the flash, whizz, bang of some CGI special effect.




Jar Jar pissed me off for specifically that reason. Star Wars doesn't need comedic value. At least not in that form. The comedic value in the trilogy came from good dialouge and some funny scenes. Han running into the squad of Stormtroopers on the Death Star and then turning around and running back comes to mind. It did NOT come from some CG character with the IQ of a rock making himself look stupid. The funny factor of that lasted about a week for me. Then it died when I realized how bad it really was. Come to think of it, some of the Gungans that were off to the side throughout the movie (Boss Nass, General Tarples (i think)) were far funnier.[/b][/quote]




... I hope not. But looking at the past two, I wouldn't be surprised. I may have my facts wrong and be imagining the entire thing, but I thought Bail Organa (sp?) was one of the main figures, if not THE figure, to begin the rebellion.

I end my rant.

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Frogblast the Vent Core!

--End of Line--

Eloquently stated, Phoenix. I agree with basically everything you said.

CG has been used to the point in modern movies where its seems more like spamming. If you take a good look at Ep1, you can watch many scenes where the wall that they displayed digital backgrounds has an edge with the floor. Come on! That's just stupid. In ESB, for example, when the Imperials fire at the Shield Generator on Hoth, the explosion looks 2-D. The movie still was awesome just because it had quality in acting, screenplay, fighting scenes (Battle of Hoth > Battle of Genosis * 1000) etc. That is why LotR is great now: it has the quality and the moderate use of CG together.

I don't think hate groups have been inspired after the conception of a character but then there is Jar Jar Binks (ever been to www.jarjarsucks.com ?). Comic relief miserably failed through sheer lameness and obstrusiveness.

I hope they don't slop a bunch of prequel crap on to the old trilogy. Who wants to use Naboo Fighter crap or Neimoidians (keep the Duros!)? Who wants to see the moron Watto (I was going to say butt face but then I realized the 1337ness of Ponda Baba, sp?, a true butt-faced dude)?

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[This message has been edited by JDKNITE188 (edited January 05, 2004).]

He would never have to pay royalties. He owns all the copyrights, etc. He pretty much owns any material that is written by the EU authors. And he doesnt necessarily ignore the EU stories, in fact there is going to be an EU character in Episode III. Not to mention, there were EU elements in the Special Edition trilogy (the asp droids) as well as Episode I and II (Coruscant is an EU name, Timothy Zahn came up with it and GL decided to use it).

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It's Lucas's franchise, but who pays the money to view the movies? Use. Those are our movies.

Seriously, if Lucas makes and "ultimate" edition of the original trilogy I (and a great many others) will be royaly pissed. I mean, I don't like the Special Edition because I thought it was: 1. A money grab; 2. Not nessecary. I won't buy the Special Edition because I like the way it was.

I don't care for Episodes 1 or 2. Both were poorly done, in my opinion. I don't like their choice of actors in a lot of cases. Ewan McGregor is a fine actor, he plays a Jedi well. Liam Neeson did too. Hayden Christenson...I don't think he could act his way out of a wet paper bag. Samual L. Jackson...as much as I like the man, I just have a hard time imagining him as a Jedi. I can't see him fighting anyone with out swearing atleast once. Don't get me started on Jango Fett's death scene (boy was that a little rushed? Maybe if they took out the horribly written romance scenes they could have had more to that).

Anyways, the point is. We can take Lucas. If he does anything dumb I say we rise up in a giant Nerd rebellion and stop him. Then we can all have a party in a forest with giant teddy bears, and peace will be restored to the galaxy.

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I'd bet $1000 that this Ultimate Edition is a rumor that will not be made.

Exactly my thoughts...

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

I think so too. But just in case, we should start a nuclear arms program (just don't tell Bush).


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4,5,&6 were made out of strner stuff than 1&2 in almost every way (actors, script, sets, computer animation, exc)

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That doesn't mean all the changes suggested by the Ultimate DVD rumor- or even any of them- will be made. So I can keep my money.

In fact, many of those changes are ridiculous even for George Lucas.

Let's hope so. By the way, when the Star Wars Trilogy was rereleased during the mid 90's as a special edition. Did you guys hate it?

I hope when the DVD's come out, one side is the original, one side is the SE, and one side is the Super Special DVD Edition.

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RIP -MaDaVentor-. You will be missed.

3-sided DVDs?

You must unlearn, what you have learned.

agian, GEORGE LUCAS IS DOING THIS TO GET HIS ORIGINAL VISION ON FILM. IF IT TICKES YOU OFF THAT MUCH, THEN DON'T BUY THEM.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'

Yeah, what they do is they make 3 dimensional cds that exist only in 2 dimensions.

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I still wish Boba would've had a better death. I mean, eaten because his jet pack exploded? C'mon. The Fett family just doesn't have good luck does it? Oh well, a lot of these changes are crap, especially replacing Boba Fett's and all the Storm Trooper's voices. There's NO point at all to it. But of course it's not real yet so eh. If they put Jar Jar in RotJ I'm calling the unibomber to duty on George Lucas.

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/doesn't unlearn anything, but does learn about double-sided double-layer dvds.

We are geeks... we have to buy them


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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

His vision was a lot clearer in the 70's- early 80's. Why should we not be angry? He's butchering the series for his own monetary gain. It's not about his damn vision. It's about milking a once great franchise. No one is forcing him to make crappy movies. No one is forcing him to make crappy changes.

It's frustrating, because loyal fans have been hoping for something better for a long time.

I firmly believe that we will not get anything as good until George Lucas dies and passes on rights to his children or someone else. Then there's a chance we can have something good.

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