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Has anyone heard anything about that Palladium thing that Microsoft is developing?
2004-01-14, 5:01 AM #41
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">..Riiight. I really don't think any government would let one company (ie. Microsoft) control nationwide computing. That's just ****ing ridiculous. For one it would cause chaos for the economy, and would make Microsoft the worlds largest monopoly.</font>
Excuse me!? It's already happened!
2004-01-14, 5:13 AM #42
even if MS does go ahead with this, and society itself collapses around us, as this thread shows, will definately happen [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]. a level headed businessman or woman will realise that there is a HUGE market out there for a totally new computing product, involving linux or not... human sense will be enough to stop microsoft controlling the universe.

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2004-01-14, 5:21 AM #43
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Oberfeldwebell:

You can modify hardware. or even build your own, even though its expensive and tough, it can be done.

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But this modified hardware wouldn't be able to access *ANY* TCPA protected content. It's just the type of content protection that the Music industry has been dying for, because it WILL work. The only programs able to read the contents of the file will be those that are allowed by the record companies. Therefore no digitally ripped copies.

If you want content that has been protected with this stuff, you're gonna need a TCPA computer. And if this comes to pass then I suspect we'll be seeing music and films being the first products to be supplied exclusively to TCPA platforms. So given the choice between letting Microsoft have access to your computer/CD player/whatever or watching that film/listening to that music, which would you pick?
2004-01-14, 10:17 AM #44
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil_Giraffe:
The only programs able to read the contents of the file will be those that are allowed by the record companies. Therefore no digitally ripped copies.

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That will be true for 24-48 hours until someone cracks it or writes their own program that allows such access. Usually, if a security measure can be built, it can also be cracked or circumvented.


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2004-01-14, 10:22 AM #45
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by oSiRiS:
GBK, once again, you're missing the point. You can't hack this, it works with the hardware. You know how they couldn't get linux on an Xbox until they found a bug in a program that was already digitally signed?

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No. The Xbox was the first thing I thought of too. They had to find that bug to get linux to boot on an UNMODDED Xbox. But long before that people used mod chips to bypass the Xbox BIOS and boot whatever they wanted, including unsigned code written with the Xbox SDK (XDK). If PCs ever went the same way, either someone would crack the encryption and create a keygen of sorts to sign there software, or we will just use modded BIOSes and run whatever we please. Also theres no telling what sort of bugs will be in this new techology, or if it will last.

Basicly there is nothing that will come up that someone won't find a way around.


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2004-01-14, 10:24 AM #46
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:
That will be true for 24-48 hours until someone cracks it or writes their own program that allows such access. Usually, if a security measure can be built, it can also be cracked or circumvented.

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Yes, we can hope that the whole thing is sloppily implemented and can be circumvented, but the mathematics behind the system is sound. Assuming it's implemented properly - unfortunately the core of the system is simple enough that it's likely it will be - the only way it'll be cracked is if someone can come up with a new way of factorising the product of two large primes.

I guess Quantum Computing could offer some interesting options for consigning this idea to the dustbin of history.
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