I'm confused on what the different kinds of rock are. This thread is inspired by the rock quiz thread btw.

Garage Rock = ?
Indie Rock = ?
Grunge = I'm not sure, but Korn comes to mind.
Numetal = Isn't that like rap/rock/technoish stuff? Like Linkin Park? Would Limp Bizkit be in this category too?
Pop Punk = Punk that is popular or Punk that sounds like pop?
Heavy Metal = Metallica stuff, right?
Industrial Rock = No idea
Old school Punk = These are the independent- labels-because-no-one-else-would-take-them bands right?
Emo = No clue
Modern Rock = I figure this is bands like Nickelback
Gothic Rock = No clue. Evanescence comes to mind though
Alternative Rock = Don't know, though I was told Sugar Ray is this
Psychedilic Rock = Isn't this rave music?
Classic Rock = obvious
Progressive Rock = huh?
Glam Rock = Don't know

Can someone help me out?

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Holy crap! A list!

Yes, Metallica is heavy metal.
Nirvana was supposed to be Alternative but many feel that they were far more metallic than alternative goes.

Other than this, I am clueless

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[This message has been edited by Darth Slaw (edited March 19, 2004).]

An example of Industrial music would be Nine Inch Nails.

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industrial would also include bands like Fear Factory and Rammstein (though these bands are usually referred to as "industrial metal")

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These are my best guesses:

Garage Rock = ?
Indie Rock = Kinda like Britpop only more depressing
Grunge = I've been told Nirvana are often credited with giving the Grunge movement a kick-start.
Numetal = Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, ie anything that's "angry white boy"
Pop Punk = Blink 182, Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Greenday etc
Heavy Metal = Any Metallica that's not a ballad. Tends to be anything that's heavy, fast and with good guitar skills
Industrial Rock = ?
Old school Punk = Sex Pistols
Emo = ?
Modern Rock = Any rock... that's modern...
Gothic Rock = Evanescence is my best guess.
Alternative Rock = Most people I know tend to treat this as the overall catagory for Indie and Britpop stuff.
Psychedilic Rock = Kinda merges with some punk, namely The Sex Pistols.
Classic Rock = Floyd, Led Zep etc
Progressive Rock = Tries to do something that hasn't been done before.
Glam Rock = A lot of the 80s stuff, quite a bit of focus on band image.

And a few more:

Melodic Metal = Metal that's not that heavy but still considered to be metal, Stratovarious are my main example.
Shock Rock = Originates in early 70s with the likes of Alice Cooper, uses controversial topics and images but the music can be of whatever sub-genre of rock the band happens to choose. Most modern bands with a "threatening" image would have been considered Shock Rock had they arrived 20 years earlier.

no bands like The Doors and some Jimi Hendrix songs fall into that category has nothing to do with punk

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I'll try... Gonna be a few Aussie bands though.

Garage Rock = Jet, The Vines
Indie Rock = John Butler Trio
Grunge = Nirvana
Numetal = Linkin Park, System of a Down
Pop Punk = Good Charlotte, Blink 182
Heavy Metal = Metallica, Megadeath
Industrial Rock = Nine Inch Nails, Rammstein
Old school Punk = Sex Pistols? Not sure...
Emo = Dashboard Confessional, Jimmy Eat World (Emo = emotional punk, read: punk with more whining and acoustic guitars)
Modern Rock = Incubus, Nickelback
Gothic Rock = Joy Division, The Cure, Nince Inch Nails (Goth is very close to Industrial, Evanescance are actually a Christian band )
Alternative Rock = Alternative is really wide, everything from Green Day to Evanescence, John Mayer, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Radiohead, Incubus, Pearl Jam, The Strokes, the list goes on. Alternative is basically everything that isnt 'popular music'.
Psychedilic Rock = Pink Floyd. Some of The Beatles tracks could be classified as Psychedelic Rock.
Classic Rock = The Beatles, Led Zeppelin
Progressive Rock = Yes, Genesis, Radiohead, Muse

Oh and you forgot one of my favourites:

Britpop: Oasis, Blur, Coldplay, Travis, Muse, Robbie Williams, Radiohead

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Spork hit the nail on the head.

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My list. NOTE: very opinionated.

Garage Rock= Post Beatles pop-rock, but with a more amateurish and crude (intentionally) sound.

Indie Rock= Bands that indie fans like (aka me). They have a punk-inspired DIY attitude. Some bands: Sonic Youth, Pavement, Yo La Tengo, Guided by Voices

Grunge= A term that was given to alternative rock from Seattle that was becoming popular in the early 90's. The bands had sludgy guitars and generally conveyed a serious attitude. Bands: Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden

Numetal= Korn, etc. The only worthwhile band in this genre is System of a Down.

Pop Punk= A combination between power pop and punk. Although this type of music isn't necessarily bad, pretty much any currently popular type of band like this sucks. Bands: Blink 182, Simple Plan

Heavy Metal= Based off of heavy blues-rock bands like Led Zepplin and Black Sabbath. Those are both decent bands, but pretty much all other heavy metal sucks. Bands: Metallica

Industrial Rock= Sucks. It's generally marketed to angsty teenagers with no taste. Characterized by Trent Reznor's pathetic lyrics and Marilyn Manson's adolescent shock tactics. Bands: Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson.

Old school Punk= Bands like the Sex Pistols, The Clash, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Television, Wire, etc.

Emo= Originally grew out of hardcore punk, but now basically means crappy pop punk except the people making it are even whinier. There are a few good bands like this, such as At the Drive-In, but most of it sucks. Bands: Dashboard Confessional

Modern Rock= Just another name for the crap they play on rock stations marketed to teens.

Gothic Rock= Evanescence is not gothic rock. They are a cheap imitation of a cheap imitation. Nine Inch Nails doesn't deserve a spot here either. And it's not close to industrial. Gothic rock grew out of punk music and post punk music. Bauhaus were the founders of goth rock. They took the bare-bones sound of punk and created dark riffs. They used the atmosphere of post-punk for dark imagery. Bands: Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, The Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Tones on Tail

Alternative Rock= It used to be the same thing as Indie Rock until Nirvana came along. Now it means the same thing as Modern Rock.

Psychedelic Rock= It was invented around the same time as LSD. The music is trippy, with an ethereal quality. Bands: Syd Barrett, some Beatles

Classic Rock= Generally overrated bands that were around in the 70's. I hate the genre, even though I like some of the bands in it.

Progressive Rock= Some of it's good, but most of it is self-indulgent, masturbatory crap. Good bands: Jethro Tull

Glam Rock= Rock that was heavy on theatrics. Good bands: David Bowie, Lou Reed, New York Dolls

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[This message has been edited by dry gear the frog (edited March 19, 2004).]

^Holy opinions.

Blink 182 is why I started playing guitar. IMO, music genres lose their usefulness once you start to think about them. There's only two types of music: good and bad.

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Gothic Rock = After Forever/Nightwish. Pure and simple. Gothic doesn't stand for satanistic anyhow; that's why people listen to industrial rock.

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[This message has been edited by gothicX (edited March 20, 2004).]

Your best bet is to leave metal out altogether for now. Once you get to metal, there are even more subgenres. Metallica and Slayer are considered thrash metal, though Slayer moreso than Metallica.

Well Spork included Red Hot Chili Peppers who are considered to be Funk

Ok yeah they came from different places, goth rock grew from early punk whereas industrial was more an offshoot from early electronic music no arguements there, but come on, they sound pretty darn similar! And artists like Marilyn Manson could technically be classified as either.



There's sub-genres for every category listed so far.

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My sister told me that
"Indie Rock" means "Independant Rock" AS in a artist that doesn't have a record deal.

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It does, but I find that all a little confusing. Most bands launch one or two albums on a small independant label, and then once they're noticed the yget signed up by a larger one. So do they lose their 'indie rock' status just by signing to a different record label? They still sound the same, their audience is still the same, and their history and influences are still the same.

Unless I'm missing something, it just seems like such a meaningless thing to classify music by. By that definition almost every single rock band ever was once 'indie rock'.

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[This message has been edited by Spork (edited March 20, 2004).]

There might be cases where first fans are appalled by their favorite indie band's selling out and turn their backs on them

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Actually, Evanescence isn't a Christian band. But the best examples of Gothic Rock are Evanescence (Excluding most of Fallen...), After Forever, Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Darkwell... I probably know more, I just can't think of em.

Oh, and the whole point of indie rock is that it's not mainstream.

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[This message has been edited by Vincent Valentine (edited March 20, 2004).]

Vinny, the "Best of Gothic Rock" CD's might help.

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I'm sure they would, but seeing as how I've never heard of them and your reference is extremely vauge...

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I currently have Best of Gothic Rock 2 on, so yeah. Playlist time.

01. Within Temptation - Mother Earth
02. Nightwish - Bless The Child
03. Beseech - Illusionate
04. Trail Of Tears - Liquid View
05. Lacuna Coil - Swamped
06. Therion - Ljusalfheim
07. Myriads - The Sanctum Of My Soul
08. Flowing Tears - Serpentine
09. Within Temptation - Deceiver Of Fools
10. Moonspell - Nocturna
11. Sentenced - Guilt And Regret
12. Divercia - Everlasting
13. After Forever - Monolith Of Doubt
14. Tristania - Tender Trip Of Earth
15. Sirenia - Sister Nightfall

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I like Moonspell. I'm listening to Handmadegod right now.

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I don't recall Rammstein ever saying anything along the lines of "Worship the red dragon, oh he is our true master..."


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0 of 14.

They started out as one. Right up until they got popular they were releasing on a Christian label, performing at Christian music festivals, and openly discussing their Christianity. Then they started swearing and being cool, and the Christian community distanced themselves.

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Evanescence sucked from day one. That girl *cringes*

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Oh really? Recently they've said that they aren't a Christian band. I've always found the whole 'Christian Music' thing kinda of... vague.

And, SAJN, what exactly is so bad about Amy Lee?

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Yeah, like I said, they ditched that image when they got popular.


Basically anything that is supported by the Christian community (record deals, radio play, performances at Christian events) is considered Christian music. Then there's that whole the 'lyrics have hidden meanings' debate, but that's more than a little ambiguous.

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Real goth music and industrial are not so similar. And Marilyn Manson is only considered goth by people who don't know what they're talking about.


No, those aren't gothic rock bands. Those are metal bands. The second part is right though, goth music favors catholic imagery (Bauhaus- Stigmata Martyr), classic horror movies (Bauhaus- Bela Lugosi's Dead), and spooky atmospheres (pretty much anything by The Sisters of Mercy).


Again, those are metal bands. I listed the best examples of goth rock.

Sorry, but I tend to get annoyed when people say something goth rock is what it isn't. Here's a link from allmusic.

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Oh yeah, you guys mentioned the thing I hate most about Evanescence. They're either exploitative liars or they're too f***ing spineless to admit their religion.

I don't think Amy Lee is that great, but she's the best part of the band.

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Isnt Marilyn Manson a goth icon...? He is over here.

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I don't know, his band is considered to be in the "Shock Rock" genre by the media here.

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0 of 14.

Marylin Manson is like, the definition of anti-christ.

Also, Dry gear the Frog, that's how they defined gothic rock back in the 80's.

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Amy Lee.

*throws up*

Plus, her voice gets annoying quick. No clue why, I just don't like it.

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I believe the bands gothicX listed are considered gothic metal. Though, I suppose gothic metal and doom metal are pretty closely related.

How dare you...Ben Moody is the best (I think that's his name).


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Most of them are categorized as gothic rock, tho Tristania, Sirenia and Moonspell can be considered gothic metal.


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Farewell, MaDaVentor. In our hearts, you'll always live on.

You do realize Ben Moody left Evanescence a couple months ago, right?

Well, teens who don't know any better and pop culture consider him a goth icon.


That's how it still should be defined. The label has just been pretty much hijacked, but original goth is still considered true goth by all of it's fans.

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All Music also says that Lacuna Coil and Nightwish are goth (when you go to their respective pages).

I think all this page has proven is that classifying music is very difficult, since everyone has different definitions.

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[This message has been edited by Vincent Valentine (edited March 21, 2004).]

same deal with blink 182, then when i got better i realized how much the Numetal and Modern Rock sucks...

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