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2004-11-30, 6:14 PM #1
i have been playing classical guitar for 4 months and i have really gotten the hang of it. i want to move on to an electric but i dont know where to start. my parents said they would get me pretty much anything, but i dont know what is good in the market right now. i kinda need somewhat specific info, a print out would be nice. i woulkd appreciate any help on this.
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2004-11-30, 6:45 PM #2
Depends on what you're looking for. Do you want a cheap begining guitar, a good guitar to learn on or a good guitar period?
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2004-11-30, 6:47 PM #3
Kind of need to need what kind of music you're into.

*in befo da move*
2004-11-30, 6:52 PM #4
Let me restate that so it makes more sense. Are you looking for a low-cost guitar just to get started, a good guitar that's meant for learning on, or a good quality instrument? I could name you off loads of each one. Tell me what you want and how much your parents would spend if it's not the cheap one.

Also, what kind of music are you into? This matters a bit, so it's not off subject.
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2004-11-30, 6:58 PM #5
alright, well im into a lot of different music, but i would probably be playing stuff like classic rock/softer music . i wouldnt play any heavy metal i dont think. also i looking for something mid price and mid quality
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2004-11-30, 6:59 PM #6
Epiphone Les Paul.
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2004-11-30, 7:10 PM #7
hm? baking powder? come again?
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2004-11-30, 7:13 PM #8
Epiphone Les Paul.
2004-11-30, 7:16 PM #9
A les paul is a pretty good bet then. I like gibsons , but everyone else seems to like epi. I've never played on an epi before tho.

A Les Paul is one of the ones that's sorta rounded with the numb on the bottom... er...
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2004-11-30, 7:27 PM #10
I have an epiphone les paul and it is exactly as you described it. Classic rock, mid price, mid quality. I love my epi les paul so much I play it more than my 1972 gibson SG and 1965 all american stratocaster. They are beautiful guitars and sound awesome.
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2004-11-30, 9:42 PM #11
Les Paul's are sooooooooo heavy. My back aches just thinking about em.
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2004-11-30, 11:50 PM #12
Quote:
Originally posted by Schming
Les Paul's are sooooooooo heavy. My back aches just thinking about em.


wimp
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2004-12-01, 8:06 AM #13
Gibson SG
2004-12-01, 9:15 AM #14
Quote:
Originally posted by Schming
Les Paul's are sooooooooo heavy. My back aches just thinking about em.


Full mahogany body does that to you. dense woods rock.
"NAILFACE" - spe
2004-12-01, 10:31 AM #15
My ESP has a full mahogany body, and it's not that heavy...
>>untie shoes
2004-12-01, 2:39 PM #16
Yea, it isnt that heavy...It's about twice as heavy as my stratocaster and my strat is very light.
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2004-12-01, 2:41 PM #17
You forget les pauls are also very thick.


My esp also has a full mahogany body, but it's thin so it's still light.
"NAILFACE" - spe
2004-12-01, 3:51 PM #18
Ibanez JEM 555

funky
2004-12-01, 3:58 PM #19
I've never found Les Paul's to be heavy, you guys are a bunch of wussies. Don't be *****ing about heavy guitars until you guys start playing the bass. :p
2004-12-01, 7:44 PM #20
heavier feel means a much fatter tone. by all means I'm for that!

besides, to play heavy, you need heavy. it goes togheter. :D
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2004-12-01, 8:07 PM #21
I am in agreement with Seb.

If youd like a 100 dollar Ibanez Gio in perfect condition then contact me. I could upload sound recordings or video recordings if you want to see/hear it if your interested.
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2004-12-03, 2:15 AM #22
Is the electric guitar suitable for beginners? And by beginners I mean people like me who have never played an instrument before. I haven't even listened to music much at all.

I'm thinking about starting to play an instrument. I've always felt like I'm musical somehow, as if I have a naturally good sense of rhythm.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2004-12-03, 10:43 AM #23
apparently the RG321 is a good entry level guitar krok, i'm getting one, check my thread or catch me on IRC, i've been doing some research into cheap axes recently.
2004-12-03, 12:34 PM #24
Personally I think electric is much easier to play than acoustic, just don't fall in love with distortion when you're starting out, because you'll learn to play sloppy. If you want to learn on an electric, don't use the amp, or just don't use distortion for a while, because distortion makes it kinda tough to tell if you're doing things correctly, so you might learn a bunch of stuff wrong, and then if you play an acoustic, it sounds crap.
>>untie shoes
2004-12-03, 1:08 PM #25
Here's what I'm using. Only $150, low action, great tone range, easy to play, perfectly accurate fretboard, tough frets (had it a year and barely any signs of wear) and hard to scratch, apparently (I've smashed it into things a number of times because my strap won't stay on, and it only has minor scratches). I love it. Fender-quality (it is owned by Fender, manufactured overseas for cheapness).
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
My music
2004-12-03, 1:14 PM #26
Kids, I usually play either a strat, a tele, or an acoustic, so I'm used to being able to just fling the ***** around and not have to worry about it. However, I'm really looking into getting a Les Paul because I love their sound and they just look cool. and... If you guys didnt know, I was in an accident and hurt my shoulders a couple years ago.
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2004-12-03, 1:33 PM #27
I hear that squire guitars sound terrible... Something about the fact that they're made with bad wood...
>>untie shoes
2004-12-03, 3:34 PM #28
Bad wood? It's the same wood that Fender uses: Alder.

Mine sounds good. Nice high-end for funk (I almost never pick up my guitar without playing something with the wah), I can turn the tone down for low-end bassy effects, and get anything in-between that.

Squier is made to the exact same specifications as Fender.
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
My music
2004-12-03, 3:47 PM #29
my squier bass is crap, i get a metallic ring on every fret and almost everytime i do something apart from lightly pick it, i get an awful feedback.... squiers are something i would advise a bargepole of AT LEAST fifty feet for any sort of interaction.
2004-12-03, 3:48 PM #30
actually no...

sure same type of wood but that doesn't mean as much as you'd think it all comes down to the selection of the wood... i'm sure the factory where the squires are made doesn't put as much effort into the wood selection as the mexican and US factories

fender guitars are made in US and Mexico squire guitars are made in (i think) korea the pickups used in squire guitars are generally lower quality also the finish is of a lower quality

the ultimate in quality for fender is obviously the american stuff
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2004-12-03, 6:07 PM #31
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Originally posted by DrkJedi82
actually no...

sure same type of wood but that doesn't mean as much as you'd think it all comes down to the selection of the wood... i'm sure the factory where the squires are made doesn't put as much effort into the wood selection as the mexican and US factories

fender guitars are made in US and Mexico squire guitars are made in (i think) korea the pickups used in squire guitars are generally lower quality also the finish is of a lower quality

the ultimate in quality for fender is obviously the american stuff
Squier is owned by Fender. They themselves verify the integrity. I've compared a Fender to a Squier, I really can't tell the difference in playability or tone quality.
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my squier bass is crap, i get a metallic ring on every fret and almost everytime i do something apart from lightly pick it, i get an awful feedback.... squiers are something i would advise a bargepole of AT LEAST fifty feet for any sort of interaction.
I've never played a Fender or Squier bass, so I can't really compare the two. But I know my Squier guitar never gives unwanted feedback like your bass.
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
My music
2004-12-03, 7:09 PM #32
Quote:
Originally posted by Shintock
Don't be *****ing about heavy guitars until you guys start playing the bass. :p
agreed, but they made good weapons
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2004-12-03, 7:46 PM #33
Same wood, sure. same wood grade, not sure. This is what it all comes down to.

Sure, nearly every guitar will be good for chordal stuff and tiny leads. but for a really precise tone that's not "in-between" you definitely need a good high grade wood to make sure you have a sonically powerful machine.

some bodies have better bass response, some have a clear tone. if it's a low grade wood you won't notice it, but if it's high grade, you will definitely hear a clear (although subtle) difference in response.

and as far as feedbacking goes, all those guitars are factory made. some mishaps occur. If you'd work in a factory building guitars all day long, I'm sure some things would slip by. Feedbacking is probably due to sloppy electronics. things vary.
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2004-12-03, 7:46 PM #34
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
Squier is owned by Fender. They themselves verify the integrity.


yes fender owns squier but "they themselves verify the integrity" no... squier just has the same quality control standards... i can tell differences... sure the differences aren't as obvious as the differences between a fender and say... those first act guitars walmart sells...

the differences become more an more noticable as the guitars age
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2004-12-03, 7:52 PM #35
Quote:
Originally posted by Seb
Feedbacking is probably due to sloppy electronics. things vary.


it's always due to something being wrong in the electronics

if it's the guitar it's almost always the pickups...

and on the squire bass... is it older? have you tried any other bass with your amp? if it's not the amp causing the feedback then your pickups may have gone microphonic... i'd suggest looking up info on potting your pickups

as for the metallic ring... have you tried a nut replacement?
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2004-12-03, 8:20 PM #36
Quote:
Originally posted by DrkJedi82
yes fender owns squier but "they themselves verify the integrity" no...
That's not what I was saying. I'm saying the standards are the same. It's far cheaper to build something overseas and import it.

I can't speak for other Squiers, but my particular guitar was far far beyond what I expected to get for $150. And it even came with my favorite finish.
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
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2004-12-03, 11:44 PM #37
Squiers are among the most flimsy guitars I've ever held. I suppose they're okay for the absolute beginner, but I certainly do not recomend them. If you're looking for a budget electric axe, go with an Ibanez.
2004-12-04, 1:35 AM #38
I haven't heard much good about Ibanez.
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My music
2004-12-04, 11:58 AM #39
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
I haven't heard much good about Ibanez.


i like mine... i know alot of people who like theirs... the biggest complaints i've heard are on the pickups... and yes the pickups aren't so great
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2004-12-04, 12:28 PM #40
Quote:
Originally posted by Seb
and as far as feedbacking goes, all those guitars are factory made. some mishaps occur. If you'd work in a factory building guitars all day long, I'm sure some things would slip by. Feedbacking is probably due to sloppy electronics. things vary.

Feedback is usually due to loosely mounted pickups, either in the way of pickup mounting rings, or pickups which aren't properly potted in wax and are thus microphonic.

A Mexican or American made strat might fit your needs well. If you want a Les Paul, Hamer makes some really great LP-style guitars which are higher quality and better priced than Epiphone's LPs. Godins and Carvins are pretty nice too.
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