It has come to my attention that many people, including people on this board, do not understand that not all punk rock is Green Day and Blink 182. Hell, I've even heard someone say he didn't know that The Ramones were punk. He thought they were just classic rock.

The Bouncing Souls
The Vandals
The Street Dogs
Flogging Molly (Really cool mix of punk and Irish folk)

These are just some links of the best modern punk rock I could think up off the top of my head. I would love to have people add more to the list of good punk.

In conclusion, don't go dissing punk. Go diss pop-punk and new emo.

Good punk? Oxymoron anyone?

Good punk died with the 90s. It's all just rehashed crap anymore. Which is unfortunate. Against Me! is the only band that I can think of in the genre that doesn't make me want to vomit.

Punk ended in the late 70's.

Thats why there was a gender called "post punk."

Yay for stupid, pointless subgenres! That's like the nonexistant 'fourth wave' of ska. It's still punk...get over it.

You suck at humor.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Good punk died with the 90s. It's all just rehashed crap anymore. Which is unfortunate. [/QUOTE]
If that's your attitude, then I don't think you really understand punk. It's not about the quality of the music, it's not even entirely about anarchy and getting drunk. It's about having fun and doing things your way no matter what. It's about energy. As long as the energy is there and everyone's having fun, or everyone's mad, or everyone's in love, it's all good.

"This is a chord. This is another. This is a third. Now form a band."

Then it's a good thing I wasn't being humorous.

Well, atleast it is now.

It definately began as LETS GET DRUNK AND **** UP PEOPLE'S PROPERTY!

Which I can respect.

I'm not saying it's not about that, because it most certainly is. What I'm saying is that that stems from rebelliousness and energy.

And Yoshi, I don't see any way what you said could have been possibly interpreted as humorous. And I'm usually pretty good at picking that sort of thing up.

I hate Flogging Molly.... I remember when I bought one of their cd's and listened to it for like 6 months straight before realizing it wasnt any good. But that's entirely my opinion. Bouncing Souls are pretty good, I second that rec.

Here's my list, but it's mainly old skool because I dont really follow modern punk around mainly because I hate the people that listen to it. And yes, I am that shallow.

The Clash
The Ramones
Sex Pistols

I have no opinion about punk so you shall have a share of:

Ok.

Funk is better than punk

Except when they combine to form PHUNK!

I disagree. Phunk is but the instance where funk is smudged by the foule influence of Punk, and is brought down from its supernal rank into a realm of mean and abominable banality.

That is supposed to make sense.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Good punk? Oxymoron anyone?
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Punk Sucks

I love Bouncing Souls <3


But anyway, yeah, personally I feel I've outgrown this so-called punk.

[QUOTE=Unknown User]Punk Sucks[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Unknown User]Punk Sucks[/QUOTE]

Agreed

If you don't appreciate Punk you can't possibly appreciate Rock n' Roll... That is to say you probably don't think punk sucks, you just don't know what it is and you don't realize its unignorable impact on music.

Punk didn't impact music at all. It impacted a bunch of popular cliche groups, and a few political activists. Wooo.

Punk is dead, it has been, and always will be, because what punk existed to rebel against isn't there in the same sense.

PS--don't tell me what I can and cannot appreciate, kthx.

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WHAR DID IT GO GUYZ?


"Punk sucks" responses arent helpful (if you didnt notice already)

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Punk didn't impact music at all. It impacted a bunch of popular cliche groups, and a few political activists. Wooo.

Punk is dead, it has been, and always will be, because what punk existed to rebel against isn't there in the same sense.

PS--don't tell me what I can and cannot appreciate, kthx.[/QUOTE]

Don't try and tell me anything about Punk Rock when its obvious that you know absolutely nothing about it.

In 1976, Rock and Roll was utterly dying. You don't like Punk Rock? I suppose you'd prefer to listen to Journey? Perhaps some Kansas? Rock n' Roll was on its last limbs, and Punk saved it, providing something fresh. Punk is also responsible for the DIY mentality; without Punk rock there wouldn't have been grunge, and there wouldn't have been indie music for the past 30 years... Punk directly led to the creation of New Wave, which was the foundation for 80s pop. Without Punk there would be no Rock n' Roll right now. Read any 21st century book on the history of popular music in the 2nd half of the 20th century, and you'll fast realize this.

The fact is most of the people on this thread refuse to acknowledge the incredible span of punk's influence. R.E.M. is a key example of a band that totally endorsed Punk rock and wouldn't exist without it. Punk rock has been the foundation for all "niche" movements, really... Goth, Emo, Grunge, Indie... All of them are based heavily on punk.

Additionally, what the hell was there to rebel against in 1976-1979, the big years of punk? The fact is, there's more right now to worry/complain/whine about now then there was then. The Ramones, The Sex Pistols, The Dead Boys, The Buzzcocks, Talking Heads, Blondie, Television, Richard Hell and the Voldoids... none of those bands were the slightest bit political. Really the only punk band that had any kind of political message in the 70s was The Clash, and possibly The Jam. The rest of them just wrote songs about how bored they were. It wasn't until Hardcore Punk that the music adopted a political connotation (Minor Threat, Bad Brains, State of Alert, Dead Kennedys, etc).

Corporate Punk is totally lame, and I'd imagine this is probably the extent to which you've been exposed to Punk.

By the way, if anyone is interested in some disco-funk punk, check out Q and Not U's most recent album, Power.

Hey hey hey, Journey is (was) sweet. Steve Perry is a god amongst men.

I'd like to listen to some Journey too.

If punk is truly responsible for grunge and indie... Well at least I know what's to blame now.

Even if all of that is true, it doesn't deter at all from the fact that punk sucked, sucks, and will suck.

And yes, Journey kicks ***.

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IT LEFT.

SKA SUCKS.

SKas dead d00dz

I don't care if Punk managed to conceive a child in a virgin, it still sucks.

And it's argumentative to say that there would not be rock n' roll today without punk. There's always an underground scene for music - and people play what they want to play. The fact that punk wasn't there probably would not have stopped an underground scene to keep going for RnR.

Kind of like metal. The days of the 80's metal are over - and into the underground most of it has gone. But if you go there, the amount of material and the awesome work available is huge.

Abstract of Post: Punk = Suckage

Oh man... Journey? You would pick Journey over Dillinger Four, Crass, or Hot Snakes? Journey is... ugh. I need to take a shower.

You people saying that punk sucks haven't even heard real punk rock, and that just shows your ignorance. Don't judge something you don't know anything about.

Again, the notion of an underground is entirely punk. Sure, there may have been garage bands in the 60s, but they had no means of releasing and distributing their music. Independent record labels started as a response to punk. It was largely due to Black Flag's -- a hardcore punk band -- persistent touring that an infrastucture was created that allowed DIY bands to tour around the country themselves.

Many of these things that you take for granted -- the notion of an underground, for example, and all of the touring, financial and distribution logistics that come with it -- havn't always existed. They have only been around since the late 1970s with very little exception.

I guess ill add to my post. I do agree somewhat with what Whelly and Eversor have to say.


I dont care if you like punk or not. Its mostly a mindset anyway.

And wtf Yoshi, 4th wave of ska? it doesnt exist because people are still stuck with the Punk/Ska combo of the third wave.

(PS. the Refused rock)

So in other words, punk led to the distribution of music from garage bands...

Meaning punk led to the creation of the internet!!!

Wow.

Clever.

Waves? WTF. I don't care what wave a music is on, or if it helped/hurt a music genre: Punk still sucks. Those of you who say that we're uninformed because we don't like punk are grabbing at straws. Seriously, if we were informed, than we'd like it, right? That's simply stupid.

To simply dismiss an entire genre of music because you've heard some crap on MTV is the epitome of ignorance. You don't watch a trailer for a movie, then immediately judge it and say "Oh, that whole movie sucks." Any idiot can say punk sucks if they've only watched Good Charlotte and Blink 182 videos that's been spoon fed to them by radio and corporate entities. Punk consists of thousands upon thousands of bands from around the world... how can you judge each and every one from what little you've heard? I'm not trying to sound like an elitist, but you should've said "from what I've heard of punk rock music, it sucks," not "punk sucks completely."

I know what real punk sounds like, and I don't like it, but I don't think it sucks.

If you were informed you wouldnt say it sucks. That doesnt mean you have to like it, but to dismiss it by saying "Punk sucks" is simply ignorance.

Hell, Thrawns reply is the best out of everyones. "I dont like it" SIMPLE AS THAT.

PUNK RAWK 4 EVAR!!!! \m/

My definition of "Sucks" is "I dislike it." But since that wasn't clear, let me restate myself:

"I know enough about punk to say that I dislike it."

Much better.