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Yea...Its JKEdit....Why?
2003-05-27, 1:21 PM #1
Well here are a few shots of a level I just started 60 mins ago.The lighting took the longest, I think it looks pretty good thought. Any Ideas? Thnx


[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11206.jpg]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11205.jpg]

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2003-05-27, 1:27 PM #2
wow thats looking really nice

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2003-05-27, 1:31 PM #3
The greenness reminds me of that old Batman game for NES. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]
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2003-05-27, 1:39 PM #4
nice archi decent texturing sweet lighting

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2003-05-27, 1:40 PM #5
Guns... lots of Guns...

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2003-05-27, 1:57 PM #6
The lighting DOES look good, but shouldn't it also come out of the windows on the other side as well?

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2003-05-27, 2:24 PM #7
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Trige:
The lighting DOES look good, but shouldn't it also come out of the windows on the other side as well?

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Yea iam going to have light coming though the other windows, I just got lazy and didnt want to work on the lvl any longer lol but yes the will be light


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2003-05-27, 2:28 PM #8
How'd you manage that in JKEdit?!

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2003-05-27, 3:53 PM #9
That must have taken FOREVER! Good job. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2003-05-27, 3:55 PM #10
Jk-edit is NOT a bad editor but the levels it makes lag and it makes more errors and...its not as versitile as jed ....

well so thats a few buts and ands...but its easy to use.

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2003-05-27, 3:55 PM #11
You would be suprized what JKEdit can do [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

Ill Have updated screen shots of the lighting later tonight
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2003-05-27, 4:33 PM #12
Reminds me of splinter cell [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif] Great job

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2003-05-27, 5:19 PM #13
Someone has played too much of that game. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] Thats very d*** good for JKedit. You sure you're not lying? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] edit - love the lighting effects, MotS or JK?

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2003-05-27, 5:47 PM #14
I can believe that's JKEdit. Not because it's bad (cause it's very good) but because JKEdit is much better than everyone says it is. The main reason more bad levels come from it than JED is because it is easier/cleaner to use and understand for a newbie. When you are only a newb, you don't make great levels, but if you stick with it and work hard you can make levels that are just as good as JED made levels. It's not the editor program, but the editor person which makes a level good.

Great work Skyline, but could you try to round off those benches a little. They look too pointy for me (unless ofcourse that's how you wanted it to look)
I like how you used your textures to make the shadows look realistic.

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2003-05-27, 6:37 PM #15
"It's not the editor program, but the editor person which makes a level good."

So True SG-fan...well said

Thanks for the comments everone, Ive been working on the level more and will have new screenies later tonight.

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2003-05-27, 6:41 PM #16
The only thing I do not like are the two vents and the two windows/mirrors whatever they are. They stand out far too much. Something about them makes them too cartoony. other than that, it's SUPERB, it reminds me of a mixture between Splinter Cell and Spiral's Labratory TC...And that's a good thing [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

Is it MP or SP, and is it MotS or JK?

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2003-05-27, 7:13 PM #17
Wow, I seriously thought it was HL or something. Great work.

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2003-05-27, 7:53 PM #18
Can someone make an objective comparison of the 2 programs?

I'd really like to know what are their strong and weak suites.
2003-05-28, 3:02 AM #19
Wow. I hate to say it, but **** , that's good. I'd have to say, probably one of the best looking levels I've ever seen. Over here at Underground Resistance, we could use a level designer like you. E-mail me, or get me on Aim with Xone009 if your at all interested. You can also talk to DPatMassassi (AKA Decent Pilot).

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2003-05-28, 3:55 AM #20
That reminds me of Red Faction, its probably the textures. Good work!

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2003-05-28, 8:28 AM #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NorthChaos:
Can someone make an objective comparison of the 2 programs?

I'd really like to know what are their strong and weak suites.</font>


I don't have much time, but here's a rundown.
JKEdit
Pros:
-Neat, intuitive interface with built-in 3d view.
-Comes with GOB/GOO tool.
-Easy to learn.
Cons:
-Hard to make building exteriors.
-Hard to make curved objects.
-Not very flexible.

JED
Pros
-Very flexible.
-Precise cleaving tool.
-Lots of helpful plugins.
Cons
-Hard to learn.
-3d Preview is seperate from interface.

Once you learn how to use it, JED is more flexible, but it's obvious that JKEdit can do some impressive stuff, as shown here.

My only complaint with the level is that the ray of light coming from the window is the same distance from the wall as the one coming from the door. It should start farther out. Also, the other windows have no beams. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

Good work!
2003-05-28, 8:37 AM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">-Hard to learn.
-3d Preview is seperate from interface.</font>


Totally disagree, the tutorials provided on this website make it very easy to learn and get used to.

Not have the 3d preview stuck on the page makes the main viewpoint so much larger and easier to work with (You don't need the 3d preview but to only, preview). I just absolutly LOVE the 1 window. I hate looking at other 3d editing programs now. Not to mention the fact that JED is capable of creating high end 3do's. Another thing it has over JKedit. Oh and JKedit costs money after what 30 days.

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2003-05-28, 8:50 AM #23
Well here are more screenies for you guys, as you can see The lighting is almost done, and I also work on the inside of the room more, I think it looks alot better. Thank you all for the suggestions and keep new ones comeing. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11209.jpg]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11210.jpg]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11211.jpg]

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2003-05-28, 9:18 AM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z@NARDI:
Not to mention the fact that JED is capable of creating high end 3do's.
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Amen brodda. The lighting there is absoultly fabulous. Now, do a whole level. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2003-05-28, 9:54 AM #25
Nice box.

Of course its JK. Everything's a box. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2003-05-28, 10:09 AM #26
Dude, if you could do that in JKedit, just imagine what you could do in JED! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]
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2003-05-28, 10:45 AM #27
Simply amazing...while doing a run dwon in the EC,I thought it was JO,I never thought JKedit was capable of such work,the lighting is fantastic,your work is simply amazing.I commend you.
2003-05-28, 11:40 AM #28
VERY VERY Nice work! When its finished give me the link! Nice lighting btw if you have any spare time could you teach me to make little rooms like that ? and how to use JKEdit just if you have spare time.

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2003-05-28, 12:12 PM #29
looking really good now... a few details i could be an *** about but they are not important

and i assume the textures are all 16bit right?

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2003-05-28, 1:42 PM #30
I changed a few things recently, like the Exit sign, I made smaller , and Working on other room witch you cant currently see in the pics above. Im not posting anymore pics tell I complet more rooms, I dont want you guys to keep looking at the same room all day [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif] Onece agin thanks for the suggestions and coments

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2003-05-28, 3:10 PM #31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Correction:
Dude, if you could do that in JKedit, just imagine what you could do in JED! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]</font>


The biggest reason why JkEdit is horrid:
It costs money. Free pwnz.

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2003-05-28, 3:37 PM #32
SkyLine, Those textures are some of the exact textures that I'm using in my level [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]. They're great aren't they? I think the one you're using for the floor is called mabcrete or something and the one you're using for the little display thing (where the raised edges are) is called pipes4. I might be wrong, but they look like the ones I'm using. I think that Zuljin made them.

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2003-05-28, 3:43 PM #33
mabcrete, eh?
2003-05-28, 5:53 PM #34
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SG-fan:
I can believe that's JKEdit. Not because it's bad (cause it's very good) but because JKEdit is much better than everyone says it is. The main reason more bad levels come from it than JED is because it is easier/cleaner to use and understand for a newbie. When you are only a newb, you don't make great levels, but if you stick with it and work hard you can make levels that are just as good as JED made levels. It's not the editor program, but the editor person which makes a level good.

Great work Skyline, but could you try to round off those benches a little. They look too pointy for me (unless ofcourse that's how you wanted it to look)
I like how you used your textures to make the shadows look realistic.

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No doubt thats true. Unfortnuately the problem is that JkEdit is also far more inefficient. It takes several hours to do it JkEdit what it can take only a little while to do in Jed.



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2003-05-28, 6:04 PM #35
For some reason, the angle of the shadows look wrong to me. Otherwise, OUTSTANDING!

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2003-05-28, 6:59 PM #36
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY:
Wow. I hate to say it, but **** , that's good. I'd have to say, probably one of the best looking levels I've ever seen. Over here at Underground Resistance, we could use a level designer like you. E-mail me, or get me on Aim with Xone009 if your at all interested. You can also talk to DPatMassassi (AKA Decent Pilot).

JediKirby

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can you please post once in the showcase without plugging your mod or asking someone to join?

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Skyline: those are some of the sexiest, if not the sexiest JK screens I've ever seen. fantastic

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2003-05-28, 8:55 PM #37
Yes the textures are dead sexy, thats why I used them :P

And I I give credit to thoughs who made them


The shadows are right, trust me I didnt work on the lighting that long for it not to be lol
Once aging thank you for the comments everyone! keep the suggestions comeing! I need more ideas [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2003-05-29, 5:47 AM #38
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cool Matty:
The biggest reason why JkEdit is horrid:
It costs money. Free pwnz.

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You got it in one CM.

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2003-05-29, 6:49 AM #39
I rarely comment on showcases, But this is special: That lighting is amazing! Really really great looking!

a side not about jkedit: The reason I stopped using it was because I could not find a way to adjoin surfaces which was very annoying.

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2003-05-29, 6:51 AM #40
On second look, they are deffinitly inaccurate. The light from the windows should be crossing over each other. The first version looks more accurate then the second. I mean, look at your second version, on the right side wall, you actually have a shadow that is going up. The angle of that shadow (as with the shadow on the other wall) should be going down at about a 45 degree angle. And where that hits the ground, you should have another shadow that goes around the parimeter (the shadow for the horizontal cross bars on the windows). And, as I said before, the light on the ground should be overlapping (except for maybe the cornor shadow, but it should deffinitly be more narrow).

The shadows themselves are perfect in the sense that they have a soft edge to them.

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