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A *new* 3do viewing program?!

2003-07-15, 7:15 PM #1

You Are Not A Winner

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Does anyone here still like to play with 3dos? I guess I still do. I finally decided to wrap up my 3do loading program I started like 2-3 or maybe even 4 years ago. I honestly don't remember. I just need to add a few more things before the 2nd public release (anyone out there remember the first release?).

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/viewer1.jpg]

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/viewer1.jpg]

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/viewer2.jpg]

Current features:

Wire, Flat Shade, Smooth Shade, Textured modes.
Built in screenshot generator.
Model statistics generator.
MAT loading (still working on 16-bit mats).
Shiny Enviornment mapping (as pictured above).
Font Engine.
FPS report.
3do Hierarchy information.

To Do:
Mouse input.
Mat16 support

First 3dos pictured are by Goz Studios.

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[This message has been edited by Zy (edited July 19, 2003).]

2003-07-15, 7:19 PM #2

Jin

Wanted the controller SO BAD

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shiny...3dos?! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

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2003-07-15, 8:00 PM #3

Freelancer

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I think I've still got a copy of the first one lying around somewhere.. that thing was cool.

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2003-07-15, 10:04 PM #4

Friend14

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I like the first texture you used to make the shine better....but that's just me.

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2003-07-15, 10:09 PM #5

Emon

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It's all the same texture.

Zy, very nice. I liked using that old one of yours, too.

By the way, I'm working on a 3DO conversion program and am having some difficulty with the file format. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a few things about it. Is zymotica@hotmail.com still your primary address?

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2003-07-16, 1:13 AM #6

Acharjay

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Does it support translucencies?

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2003-07-16, 1:47 AM #7

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Sweet!

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2003-07-16, 3:51 AM #8

Grismath

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Quote:

Shiny Enviornment mapping (as pictured above).

...HOW?!?

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2003-07-16, 5:18 AM #9

lightside

Not the darkside

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Well, it's not really using the JK/MotS engine, itself......just Zy's code. JK with Env. Map? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

I wish....

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2003-07-16, 6:24 AM #10

Murc XIII

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pleeeeaaseeee get a new environment map. Everyone uses that one....and I really don't think many star wars items/ships are inside buildings like that pic.

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2003-07-16, 8:23 AM #11

Emon

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Quote:

Originally posted by Lord_Grismath:
...HOW?!?

About halfway down the page.
http://www.ultimategameprogramming.com/OpenGLPage2.htm

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2003-07-16, 8:25 AM #12

Vin

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Quote:

pleeeeaaseeee get a new environment map. Everyone uses that one....and I really don't think many star wars items/ships are inside buildings like that pic.

That's not in a building, it's in a street, and it's not a ship, it's a probe type dealie.

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2003-07-16, 8:38 AM #13

Emon

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A street with buildings on the side he means.

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2003-07-16, 8:43 AM #14

You Are Not A Winner

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This was unexpected that the shiny enviornment map is not too popular. Well at least it is really easy to change. If any of you would like to post a new env map that you think would be more appropriate, I'm open to suggestions.

And yes, zymotica@hotmail.com is still my primary contact email. But please use a non cryptic subject heading so I don't mistake your email for spam.

I did load the translucent information contained in the face info of the 3do. But I haven't made use of it yet. It's another thing to add to the to do list.

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2003-07-16, 8:58 AM #15

Emon

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Yes, from JO, textures/kejim/env_newfloor_kej.jpg, or one from Q3.

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2003-07-16, 9:14 PM #16

You Are Not A Winner

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I'm taking a short break from this, so here's the current build for you people to try out:

http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/Zy3doView.zip

Translucencies now supported:

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/view4.jpg]

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/view4.jpg]

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2003-07-17, 6:54 AM #17

The MAZZTer

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Wow... I've been needing a good 3do viewer for some time. =)

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2003-07-19, 11:46 AM #18

You Are Not A Winner

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I fixed a small bug that caused some non transparent faces to be rendered as transparent. I also added support for model hierarchy information. So now player models will display properly (hopefully).

The download link is the same as the link in my previous post.

Any feature requests? Or bugs to report?

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/view5.jpg]

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/view5.jpg]

[This message has been edited by Zy (edited July 19, 2003).]

2003-07-19, 5:34 PM #19

Gonk

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Zy! You must model a corvette for JO/JA! Or better yet, an ISD-II or something... Actually, you don't HAVE to, but I'd love you endlessly if you did. (Especially after the jedi starfighter....)

Excellent job as always, even though I don't work with the Sith engine.

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2003-07-19, 7:15 PM #20

You Are Not A Winner

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Wow a corvette? Goz has already done an outstanding job on it. Maybe I should work on a proper 3do importer for milkshape.

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2003-07-19, 7:23 PM #21

Emon

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dr0id made one like half a year ago, but it is totally defective. That model converter I'm making was started to solve this problem, but if you can make a proper importer, please do, because this thing is a pain in the *** , and I'm having some strange differences in file formats. E.g. one model in 3DO has like this number of vertices, and in OBJ format it has another number of vertices... makes no sense!

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2003-07-19, 7:44 PM #22

JediKirby

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I want your man babies Zy

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2003-07-20, 5:19 AM #23

Jipe

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Quote:

anyone out there remember the first release?

Of course.. I used it a lot, more times than I can count. Good to see you're finally finishing it up. Tried out v2 - looks like it still can't load 3dos from LucasArts (ie, not Jed-exported), eh?

2003-07-20, 8:24 AM #24

Emon

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Sounds like his 3DO loading code isn't the most robust thing in the world. It's probably not meant to accept the crap that's in LEC's.

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2003-07-20, 10:42 AM #25

You Are Not A Winner

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I knew I should have at least tried an Official 3do. Time to look for that old JK cd. I think I know exactly what is missing in my code. It's very minor.

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2003-07-20, 10:56 AM #26

Edward

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I have an idea what you can add to your Viewer... A key that resets the view!

Oh, and allow people to load any 3do file in any folder (e.g. a File selctor).

[This message has been edited by Edward (edited July 20, 2003).]

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2003-07-20, 12:00 PM #27

Descent_pilot

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That will be so much for friendlier then using PuppetJedi for my screenies. Me wants. Lookin good. And I'm going to sound stupid here, but what is the name of the first one?

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2003-07-20, 12:10 PM #28

You Are Not A Winner

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Ok, I fixed the LEC 3do loading problem. Official 3dos should load now. Thanks for the bug catch Jipe. Updated program can be downloaded at the same link as before.

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/view6.jpg]

[http://www.ece.uci.edu/~kwank/view6.jpg]

Edward - Oops, I forgot to document that the Space Bar will reset the view. In program file loading will be implemented as soon as I code a destory 3do sub function, to remove the loaded 3do from memory. Hopefully I won't have to learn MFC.

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2003-07-20, 12:59 PM #29

Emon

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MFC's supposed to be easy I hear.

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2003-07-20, 1:39 PM #30

cazor

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Someone get that rancor in Jk, ******! And if that is for Jk... RELEASE A MOD WHERE YOU GET TO BE/FIGHT RANCORS!!! whoo!

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2003-07-20, 3:13 PM #31

Jon`C

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It's called "Mysteries of the Sith", Cazor. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2003-07-20, 4:28 PM #32

lightside

Not the darkside

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LOL.

Oh, yeah....Zy, wonderful work. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

I used your program when it first came out too, and loved it. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2003-07-20, 5:16 PM #33

happydud

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wait wait wait. You can BE a rancor in MOTS????

Why didn't I buy this game! *hits head against window*
*window breaks*
*alarm goes off*
*takes off clothes, goes running into the night*

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2003-07-20, 9:47 PM #34

You Are Not A Winner

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Quote:

Originally posted by happydud:
wait wait wait. You can BE a rancor in MOTS????

No...You have to fight one.

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2003-07-21, 7:04 PM #35

zanardi

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Get the 16bit mats working soon [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2003-07-21, 7:33 PM #36

cazor

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jon`C:
It's called "Mysteries of the Sith", Cazor.

I know, i have it. i just wanted to know if all these models were Jk... so then there is a rancor Jk model, and maybe could be implemented in it. because its hell of alot easier to find people to play Jk than it is to play mots, and finding people to play Jk is even hard in #massgames.

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2003-07-21, 8:02 PM #37

Darko

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so then there is a rancor Jk model, and maybe could be implemented in it.

Taking a model from MotS and using it in JK is against the EULA. Massassi won't touch it.

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2003-07-22, 8:04 AM #38

happydud

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Quote:

Originally posted by Zy:
No...You have to fight one.

Well, where's the fun in that. I want to BE one!

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2003-07-22, 8:07 AM #39

cazor

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Quote:

Originally posted by Darko:
Taking a model from MotS and using it in JK is against the EULA. Massassi won't touch it.

Who says it has to be released at massassi?

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2003-07-22, 8:44 AM #40

Emon

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You're **** wrong Massassi won't touch it. Probably half the files violate the EULA, but no one cares, because it's not important. When LEC comes knocking on Kedri's door telling him some guy's file stole a model from another game, then you can take it off. But really, most all of the staff won't care, and LEC sure as hell doesn't care.

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