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2003-07-10, 5:39 PM #1
DOWN THERE NOW!

[This message has been edited by Cazor (edited July 19, 2003).]
2003-07-10, 6:47 PM #2
[http://public.csusm.edu/bcline2000/imgs/shot0008.jpg]

A shot of Cazor, Pommy, and I playing.
JO seems to be crashing on me with this particular map. JO has never crashed on me before. Also, should I be getting 25 FPS on this map? I don't have my settings cranked way high. And I have a GeForce4 Ti 4200 w/ 128 MB DDR.

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Gandalf is in da houuusssee!
Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.
2003-07-10, 6:58 PM #3
Patches result in high tris, which results in low framerate. Use some brushes instead of patches.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-10, 7:11 PM #4
Cazor, this may sound like a difficult thing to do, but please hear me out. I like how you can break the railing in one spot and break two of those pillars. However, those appear to be the only two parts of the map you CAN do that to. If you made it so that the entire map could be literally blown to pieces (i.e. cutting circles all the way down the railing and making all the pillars breakable) the "whoa, cool" factor would increase by a million jillion kazabaquillion. And make shiny shaders!
2003-07-10, 7:47 PM #5
Yeah... i kinda hve to use patches for the handrails... but i guess i can get rid of some other ones. and thrawn... ill try to understand that and get back to you tomorrow.

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You don't hug the Cazor... the Cazor hugs You.
2003-07-10, 10:06 PM #6
Oh yeah... there also is ingame music to this level. Could that be making it crash?

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You don't hug the Cazor... the Cazor hugs You.
2003-07-11, 5:14 AM #7
would the music happen top be the totally sweet Chateau by Rob Dougan?!?!

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2003-07-11, 7:23 AM #8
You don't have to use patches for anything.

Just make sure you turn on phong shading so it doesn't get fugly.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-11, 7:38 AM #9
Yes.. i need to use patches for a few things in the this map. I hated the way it looked before with the brushes on the curved walls and such.

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You don't hug the Cazor... the Cazor hugs You.
2003-07-11, 7:40 AM #10
It looks very nice, good work. However, from the movie the Chateau was a little wider. I managed to find a picture of it online (after Neo killed everyone sadly).

http://i.timeinc.net/time/2002/matrix/images/photo7.jpg

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I can't think of anything to put here right now.
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2003-07-11, 7:46 AM #11
Okay, completely ignore me then!

*Sigh* At least put -patchmeta in the BSP phase.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-11, 10:26 AM #12
Doesn't anyone else find it odd that he's using a Star Trek skin while playing a Matrix level in a Star Wars game? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/confused.gif]

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In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
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2003-07-11, 10:28 AM #13
lol [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2003-07-11, 11:19 AM #14
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by THRAWN:
It looks very nice, good work. However, from the movie the Chateau was a little wider. I managed to find a picture of it online (after Neo killed everyone sadly).

http://i.timeinc.net/time/2002/matrix/images/photo7.jpg

</font>


Ok.. a looong time ago we had this widening discussion. It was way too skinny back then, then i widened it and most everyone said it was good. I am done with making this room bigger.



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You don't hug the Cazor... the Cazor hugs You.
2003-07-13, 9:27 AM #15
Just finish the map and start on another one.

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2003-07-13, 5:28 PM #16
I'm sorry cazor, but those textures make the level look absolutely horrible. the archi is fine, the textures just suck completely. (solid color=bad)

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I'm just an old man with a skooma problem.
I'm just an old man with a skooma problem.
2003-07-13, 8:00 PM #17
I agree. He insists that there is detail, but that's clearly crap.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-14, 6:50 AM #18
Why is solid color == bad? What do you do if you need a solid color?

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CWizard *pWizard=new CWizard("Gandalf","white",2021);
pWizard->EnableWizard(TRUE);
Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.
2003-07-14, 7:00 AM #19
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GuNbOy:
I'm sorry cazor, but those textures make the level look absolutely horrible. the archi is fine, the textures just suck completely. (solid color=bad)

</font>


Seconded. Infact, I was under the opinion that the textures you are using now are mainly just place holders. Please tell me I'm right...

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2003-07-14, 7:15 AM #20
Solid colors are bad if you don't have a shader to make them look shiny like they really are. But in this case, it's not supposed to be flat to begin with. Just because you don't see any detail in a tiny 400x300 photo which was taken from the distance to begin with doesn't mean there isn't any detail.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-14, 3:33 PM #21
That level looks amazing.

Off topic: For whatever reason when I try to add music oto my level it doesn't want to work. Anybody think they know why.

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no
2003-07-14, 3:42 PM #22
I've told Cazor on multiple occasions that the textures needed to be redone. He doesn't want to. I'd just let it go.
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2003-07-14, 4:36 PM #23
I suggest putting a little more detail into this map instead of making the pillars "faster." Also, are there any logical light sources? Nice foundation, though.

Fragging with the Flechette brings back warm memories . . . oh, CTF!

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2003-07-14, 7:14 PM #24
I've redone the textures. It's still hard to tell at a distance, but even in the movie the surfaces seemed pretty flat. I also finished the ginormous (1024 x 2048)floor texture. It looks pretty good. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] Now we just need to add a relfective shader and it'll be like magic. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]
2003-07-14, 8:05 PM #25
Too bad JO doesn't support anything past 1024x1024. You'll have to split it up into two textures.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-14, 8:28 PM #26
Actually, you can try 1024x2048. Q3's not supposed to go about 1024, but maybe JO is different.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-15, 4:27 AM #27
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Emon:
Too bad JO doesn't support anything past 1024x1024. You'll have to split it up into two textures.

</font>


Really? That is interesting.

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Multiplayer Game Alias: II88BlackOps

Live long JK2. You rock.

See my blood sweat and tears in the SP map Corrupted Paths. Screens here: http://imagebase.freewebspace.com/photo.html
2003-07-15, 7:38 AM #28
I did a Google image search for Matrix Reloaded in an attempt to get some images of this level for references.

http://www.cinema.art.br/cinemacena/Geral/news/matrix260.jpg

http://image.pathfinder.com/ew/dynamic/imgs/020905/17147__matrix_l.jpg

The one right above shows a closer view of the painting in the background. Sadly, those were the only good ones I could find, most of them were the one I already posted of Neo standing there.

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I can't think of anything to put here right now.
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2003-07-15, 9:02 PM #29
please dso me a favor, play enter the matrix you can get the chattau at the end

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2003-07-16, 1:42 AM #30
[What a horrible suggestion! You have been warned.]

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"Do... or do not... there is no try"-Yoda

[This message has been edited by Hebedee (edited July 17, 2003).]
Seishun da!
2003-07-17, 8:04 PM #31
You edit his post for whatever reason, yet fail to see the text message of "B****!" in the above screenshot?

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"B-but why is the rum gone?!" - Captain Jack Sparrow
2003-07-18, 10:04 AM #32
Before I get into trouble over something that I think is insignificant...but I'll save that for a later time...I went ahead and blurred out the word.

The image is also smaller...

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CWizard *pWizard=new CWizard("Gandalf","white",2021);
pWizard->EnableWizard(TRUE);
Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.
2003-07-18, 6:58 PM #33
Cazor, the new Q3Map2 2.5.5-test10 fixes some -patchmeta issues, you may be able to do -patchmeta and -subdivisons 12 again without problems.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-07-19, 1:03 PM #34
I fixulated everything.

[http://ut2k3net.com/cazor/screenshots/matrix/half.jpg]

All the textures shown here are made by Thrawn42689.

I like that fade to wireframe stuff... **** you qeradiant.com!

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You don't hug the Cazor... the Cazor hugs You.

"Three years ago my sister was diagnosed with multiple personalities... and there's nothing funny about that. But she phoned me the other day, and my Caller ID exploded." -Zach Galifianakis

[This message has been edited by Cazor (edited July 19, 2003).]
2003-07-19, 1:24 PM #35
oh god, someone showed you how to do the showtris thing *cries*

Looks...different? Better.

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saberopus
2003-07-19, 1:26 PM #36
btw um... how do you do the showtris thing?

Sorry for double post: floor textures is a little overbearing... perhaps tone it down a tad.

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saberopus
2003-07-19, 1:28 PM #37
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by saberopus:
oh god, someone showed you how to do the showtris thing *cries*
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Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by saberopus:
btw um... how do you do the showtris thing?
</font>


Hahaha! n00b! its "r_showtris 2" for the one i used.

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You don't hug the Cazor... the Cazor hugs You.

"Three years ago my sister was diagnosed with multiple personalities... and there's nothing funny about that. But she phoned me the other day, and my Caller ID exploded." -Zach Galifianakis
2003-07-19, 3:16 PM #38
t'is good, t'is good.

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In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
The music industry is a cruel and shallow money trench where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.
2003-07-19, 3:16 PM #39
spiffy

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Immorality- 1 Cor. 6:18, 2 Tim. 2:22
Impure thoughts- Col. 3:2, Phil. 4:8
Alcohol- Eph. 5:18, Prov. 20:1
Anger- Gal. 5:22, Porv. 20:3
Pride- 1 Peter 5:5, Dan. 4:37
Worry- 1 Peter 5:7, Phil. 4:7-6
speech- James 1:26, Eph. 4:29-5:2
On a Swedish chainsaw: "Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals."
2003-07-19, 3:24 PM #40
I MAED TEH MURAL OMG OMG

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11937.jpg]
[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11938.jpg]
[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/11940.jpg]

I luuuurrrve youu.

The floor textures aren't changing. They might be less overbearing once they are made reflective, though.
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