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"Iron Reaver, Soul Stealer!"
2003-09-14, 12:39 PM #1
Now here is a model for you InuYasha fans.

[http://savagex.net/downloads/inuyasha/sav_inuyasha3.jpg]

[http://savagex.net/downloads/inuyasha/sav_inuyasha4.jpg]

Also comes in "Human"

[http://savagex.net/downloads/inuyasha/sav_inuyasha1.jpg]

[http://savagex.net/downloads/inuyasha/sav_inuyasha2.jpg]

Some Renders from 3dsmax

If ya want to download it, you can get it from my website (http://www.savagex.net) or from pcgamemods.com.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-14, 12:43 PM #2
Thats pretty cool...even though i dont know what it is...

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2003-09-14, 12:46 PM #3
Uhm... eh... are those breasts or very heavy armor? Those last two pictures makes it look kinda... eldery... never thought i would use that term to describe a chest.

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2003-09-14, 12:58 PM #4
The only thing that bothers me slightly is the face. I've tried modelling anime faces before and they're very difficult, mainly because a face can look completely different in each perspective. Mess around with that, I think you can probably get it closer to the original character.

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2003-09-14, 1:38 PM #5
complete with kaze no kizu action, i hope?

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2003-09-14, 1:48 PM #6
Fix the eyes, and fix the feet. Otherwise, its nice.

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2003-09-14, 2:06 PM #7
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cazor:
Uhm... eh... are those breasts or very heavy armor? Those last two pictures makes it look kinda... eldery... never thought i would use that term to describe a chest.

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InuYasha wears a baggy kimono so it ruffles like that so no, there are not saggy breasts.

Yeah, I can see how the face is off. I guess I should had made the face a little smaller and the hair a little bigger to be a little more accurate. As for the feet, I'm not too good at making flesh textures so the feet need work. I'll consider revising it later since I already released it this morning. I still want to make a model of Sesshomaru (InuYasha's evil brother) so maybe I'll have the updated model come with that model once I make it.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-14, 2:10 PM #8
Inuyasha..... I tape that anime every night when it's on adult swim. I think you need to fix that baggy part somehow and maybe the nose.

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2003-09-15, 8:51 AM #9
Here are images of InuYasha's brother, Sesshomaru. Let me know what you think so I can fix anything before I release this one.

[http://savagex.net/downloads/sesshomaru/sesshomaru1.jpg]

[http://savagex.net/downloads/sesshomaru/sesshomaru2.jpg]

-- SavageX

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2003-09-15, 9:02 AM #10
Needs to have a better face texture... Especially those eyes. Looks good except for that.

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2003-09-15, 10:10 AM #11
They look more like guys, because the faces are too long and they don't have pointy chins. I also think, the ones who have white hair. If you made their hair "bigger" if you will, that might help.

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2003-09-15, 10:25 AM #12
Personally, I think the face textures are fine but if you guys say so, I guess I should tweak them. However, you guys aren't being too helpful in pointing out EXACTLY why they are wrong. I'll try to tweak the hair since I can see that is a problem (maybe be using a shader with alpha blend so I can have more detailed hair and save some polies). Here is a better, close up picture of the two guys. This should help you guys spot the face problems a littel better.

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/inu_sess_faces.jpg]

-- SavageX

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2003-09-15, 10:54 AM #13
The mouth is ... bad, and the eyes have bad coloring. It might be hard to repoduce the style that the show uses, but at least get it close. The coloring gives it a sort of 3D effect, which it really shouldn't have. Iris's don't stick out [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2003-09-15, 11:05 AM #14
Lord Sessy was a bit taller, and he looked more bad-*** . Inuyasha was annoying Anime, while Sessy was kick animass looking. Yes they were anime, and that's a hard head to get, but if you look at it in the sense that the artist was trying to be abstract to get a more realistic feal, you can model and texture it better.

JediKirby

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2003-09-15, 11:47 AM #15
Uhh... I have been using the style of the show. Anyhow, I tweaked Sesshomaru's face, using your tips. Noit sure I can do much with the mouth as Anime character's are usually done with a simple line. I made it thinner though if that'll help.

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/sess_newface.jpg]

-- SavageX

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2003-09-15, 12:06 PM #16
Ok, here is Inuyasha's new face. Hopefully its a little better now. I still have to implement the new hair idea so no need to point that out.

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/inu_newface.jpg]

As for JediKirby's comments on Sesshomaru, obviously I can't make him taller since I'm sure JO MP player models don't permit that for gameplay reasons. I'm not sure how I could achieve the "bad-*** " quality you are refering to. I guess I could make his face more "mean" although I like the calm look since Sesshomaru is best known for being cold like that.

As for the head shape, I rather not have it really pointy at the chin because while that looks good in 2d, it looks odd in 3d. I'm trying to get a good blend between making it look like the anime yet look good in 3D. Hence, that is why it isn't EXACTLY accurate to the anime as I'm trynig to balance the look out for JO. Also, the textures are cartoony because - for crying out loud - it's from a cartoon! So please, if ya going mention that, don't.

Ok, after I finally get the tweaks done and get most of you pleased with the models, I think I'll release Sesshomaru on his own and wait about a week before releasing the new Inuyasha since that was already released. I still have a Zaku II model from Gundam to finish and I still have a model of Ryoko form "Tenchi Muyo!" to release when I smooth her out. I think that after all that, I'll start making some more models from InuYasha (Sango and Kikyo come to mind as good picks) and maybe do some Gundams for Iron_Jedi that asked me to do some for his stuff. Don't worry guys - I'm not ALL anime here. I still would like to make a model of the Thornosapiens from SS3/FRmod and maybe bring Leeza Haynes to life as well. Man, that's a lot of modeling. I need to take a break!

-- SavageX

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2003-09-15, 1:25 PM #17
isnt sasshsehaslkdjfa whatever supposed to have only one arm?

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2003-09-15, 1:33 PM #18
Yes, but I decided to keep Sessy at Pre-episode 7 just because it would be better with him fighting with both arms. I was thinking of making an alternate skin though with his left arm messing and some of his armor broken. Although, the caps would be a problem as I'm sure that stuff in hard-coded and would be difficult to do with .surf files.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-15, 2:37 PM #19
The new ones are better, but the nose feels a bit strange somehow. I think it's mostly the fault of the anime though because the nose is so simplisticly designed.

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2003-09-15, 3:25 PM #20
The eyes are much better, and so is the mouth. The only other thing I can you fixing is maybe trying out making the rest of the eye white, instead of grey with that shadow (looks wrong.... like its pitted) and maybe messing with the eyebrow size some. It's a definate improvement though, and I am extreamly picky. (I think it helps in the end though, that's why I'm so picky)

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2003-09-15, 4:02 PM #21
With a mod like JediMod, JediPlus, etc, you can scale models.

I really like the anime look it has. You might try duplicating the model, scaling by something small like 1.01, inverting normals and making it black for an ink outline.

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2003-09-16, 12:00 AM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cool Matty:
The eyes are much better, and so is the mouth. The only other thing I can you fixing is maybe trying out making the rest of the eye white, instead of grey with that shadow (looks wrong.... like its pitted) and maybe messing with the eyebrow size some. It's a definate improvement though, and I am extreamly picky. (I think it helps in the end though, that's why I'm so picky)

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Good, I'm glad I'm making progress. I forgot to remove that shadow from Inuyasha's eyes before I posted it so I'll be sure to do that. I guess my attempt to make the eyes like more pleasing visually with shadow effects sort of killed the anime feel so I'm glad you guys pointed that out so I can deal with that. Man, I'm really mad at myself right now because of the fact that I have a tendency to release stuff before getting proper feedback. I seriously kicking my own butt in my head for releasing Inuyasha prematurely. The skin is getting scores like 7.4 at pcgamemods.com (not really that bad but I really prefer a score over 8 or 10. A 7 is like getting a "C" in school.) Hopefully with all of the feedback I'm getting now, Sesshomaru's model should get better scores once I release it.

I was thinking though - if anyone watches the show, could you make the effort and try to get voice samples of Inuyasha and Sesshomaru? Partically those of grunts, gasps, and taunts? That would be nice to add to the models. Of course, I'll give ya full credit if ya do.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-16, 2:25 AM #23
Hehe, check these guys out... you definately don't want to mess with them before they get their morning coffee!

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/inu_sess_mad.jpg]

As you can see, I made a Full-demon version of Inuyasha and a Mad version of Sesshomaru. I added a shader effect to make their eyes glow (making them look really freaky looking). This means now that Inuyasha has 3 default skins and Sesshomaru has 2 default skins.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-16, 2:28 AM #24
Looks evil.. but not as evil as ME!!

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2003-09-16, 4:32 AM #25
Suggestions:

Make the lips smaller, the thinning was good, now you should try to acheive the small, pursed lips that Anime usually carries.

as for Sessi, you can easily make him taller by using a resized skeleton. Emon at one point told be how to do this, so you might want to ask him, but from my perspective, it seemed easy in MS3D, so it should be a breaze for you.

Sessi needs a 3rd form as well... perhaps his Full Demon form ;-D

I'd be willing to make some Inuyasha weapon models if you could use them in a skin pack?

I've seen every episode up to Kikyo's death.

JediKirby

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2003-09-16, 7:56 AM #26
Nose might have to be a tad sharper. Most of Takahashi's designs have got sharp noses ^^"

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2003-09-16, 10:09 AM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Make the lips smaller, the thinning was good, now you should try to acheive the small, pursed lips that Anime usually carries.
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Well, lips look find to me but I'll implement your suggestion just to see the results it'll give me.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">as for Sessi, you can easily make him taller by using a resized skeleton. Emon at one point told be how to do this, so you might want to ask him, but from my perspective, it seemed easy in MS3D, so it should be a breaze for you.</font>


MS3D is a POS compared to 3dsmax so I won't be using that unless I need to import/export files to 3dsmax. I know saying that isn't relevant but just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. I'll try that scale the skeleton out to see if that'll work for me.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Sessi needs a 3rd form as well... perhaps his Full Demon form ;-D
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You mean when he turns into a large dog? I don't think that'll work. Judging by the smiley, I assume you are joking so I won't get into that. BTW, Sesshoumaru is a full demon already in case you didn't know. His father and mother were demons, unlike InuYasha who's mother was a human.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'd be willing to make some Inuyasha weapon models if you could use them in a skin pack?</font>


Heh, that would be cool but I think I can do the model part myself. If you know how to program in JO, that'll be cool.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
Nose might have to be a tad sharper. Most of Takahashi's designs have got sharp noses ^^"
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Yeah, I just noticed that myself that the noses are a little fat looking. I'll try to scale them down a bit.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-16, 10:28 AM #28
I gotta say both look great.
only a few suggestions:
-the sharper nose and chin thing that was mentioned.
-I think Seshomaru has paler skin(less contrast between light and dark in the shadows). If you look at your icon pic it shows this.
-You've got the "calmness" in the eyes that Seshomaru has, but the mouth needs to span across less of the face.
-Seshomaru's Tenseiga has a red tsuba (handguard). and the scabbard and hilt on both is longer. Inuyasha's Tetsaiga has discolored and ragged looking wrapping on the hilt, where the Seshomaru's Tenseiga is clean and perfectly wrapped.

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2003-09-16, 5:48 PM #29
And in one of my rare requests, In the next batch of screenies, could you take a pic of the characters in complete darkness so we can see how scary those eyes look glowing on their own? You might have to make a custom room in radiant to get that level of darkness though.

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2003-09-16, 6:03 PM #30
SavageX, you scale the skeleton with a mod like JediMod, or one of the other tons of mods based upon it. You can't scale it in the model itself, trust me that will not work.

What about the ink outline? That would look so sweet.

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2003-09-17, 5:31 AM #31
Ok, here are the latest changes I made to the models. I haven't seen the suggestions after my last post up until now so I'll implement them later. The changes I made was that I narrowed the mouth on both models and shrank Inuyasha's face and increased the hair size (Inuyasha sure did had one LONG face before. Can't believe I didn't notice that!) Also, the red eyes pulsate now to give it a more erry look to them. Anyhow, here they are:

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/sesshomaru.jpg]

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/sesshomaru_mad.jpg]

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/inuyasha.jpg]

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/inuyasha_human.jpg]

[http://savagex.net/images/misc/inuyasha_demon.jpg]

BTW, sorry for the long download in images. Just wanted to make sure you guys can see the details.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-17, 12:51 PM #32
Well... do you guys have any more suggestions to make? I'm itching to release Sesshomaru right now (I think Inuyasha still more work because his nose looks funny still) so please let me know ASAP before I decide to do a release.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-17, 1:11 PM #33
I always thought of Sessi as a big broad chested tall dude, while he sort of looks short and flimsy. I don't know, I think his face could be longer, paler, and maybe even less wide lips for him, to acheive the facial expression he usually carries. I think Inuyasha is perfected imho. You should honestly make his father's sword tooth thing.

A question, what WAS sessi's form, if that wasn't his full demon form?

JediKirby

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2003-09-17, 3:54 PM #34
Yeah, I guess Sessy does look stockier than he should. Maybe if I slimmed the pants a bit he might look taller. I did pale his face recently so that is done. Although Emon said I could adjust his height using JediPlus and stuff, I rather not deal with that right now. Jos lips are small as they can get - any smaller and it looks funny. As for Inuyasha, I fixed his eyes a bit spreading them a part a little. I felt that in those shots above, his eyes were too close together, making his nose stand out more.

As for the other stuff you mentioned, Sessy dog form is just that - a dog form. Sesshomaru only does that bit once (can't do it again because he lost his left arm - kind of hard to be a menace when you become a three legged dog, hehe). As I know, Sessy is a full-demon already from the get go. As for Inuyasha's sword which is called Tetsusaiga or Tesseiga (can be spelled two ways which is odd), I might make that if I know how to do saber replacements that turned off the blade. I'm sure that it has to do with not placing in a tag surface for the blade or something like that. I'll have to go study how other people did it with their sword/axe/etc. replacements.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-17, 4:09 PM #35
They look great.
Maybe Inuyashas nose would look right if the shadowing around the nose wasn't so dark, though I think it's great now.
And when both Inuyasha's Tetsaiga and Sheshomaru's Tenseiga are sheathed they look like regular katanas.
The scabbard needs to be a bit longer and so does the hilt.
Sheshomaru's sword has a red handguard, and a clean, perfectly wrapped hilt, with black fabric.
Inuyasha's sword is as you have it. Slightly ragged, faded brown.

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2003-09-17, 6:07 PM #36
Awesome [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

You should do Bankotsu ... I've always wanted to use that bigass halberd of his [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2003-09-17, 7:13 PM #37
The heads look too big to me.(even for anime) Especially given the size of the neck and eyes. If you scaled it down that melon a bit, It'd look much better. Nifty model [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2003-09-18, 10:14 AM #38
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bounty Hunter 4 hire:
Maybe Inuyashas nose would look right if the shadowing around the nose wasn't so dark, though I think it's great now.
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Yeah, I fixed that issue with the textures already.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
And when both Inuyasha's Tetsaiga and Sheshomaru's Tenseiga are sheathed they look like regular katanas.
The scabbard needs to be a bit longer and so does the hilt.
Sheshomaru's sword has a red handguard, and a clean, perfectly wrapped hilt, with black fabric.
Inuyasha's sword is as you have it. Slightly ragged, faded brown.
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I also did those changes already. I made the swords much longer and they bend the correct way now. Also fixed the textures on the Tenseiga as well.

-- SavageX


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[This message has been edited by SavageX378 (edited September 18, 2003).]
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2003-09-18, 10:16 AM #39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shred18:
The heads look too big to me.(even for anime) Especially given the size of the neck and eyes. If you scaled it down that melon a bit, It'd look much better. Nifty model [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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I think the head size is fine - it matches the skeletions correctly. I think it's just the angle and their stance that give them that appearance. Maybe I'll she you guys shots from 3dsmax instead of in the game.

...Well, come to think of it, head size has a large influence on the size of the body. If I scale the head down, the body would look much beefer. That would be beneficial to Sessy.

-- SavageX

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2003-09-18, 2:24 PM #40
[http://www.anteprima.net/manga/img2/inu/inuyasha.gif]

[http://www.anteprima.net/manga/img2/inu/sesshomaru.gif]

Just to help out.

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