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Duel Dustball BETA
2004-02-04, 10:43 AM #41
Really? Awesome. Could you send the file my way (gonk@swgalaxies.net)? I'd like to check it out. I'm really really bad at bot routes. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

Ok so I got the botroute file but apparently one of the servers along the way (or outlook) managed to think it was a virus and I can't get at it... Maybe try zipping it. My email is a royal pain in the *** .

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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited February 04, 2004).]
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2004-02-04, 11:38 AM #42
It seems too dark under that spaceship...

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2004-02-04, 11:56 AM #43
I'm not sure how Raven managed to make the Falcon in that Tatooine SP level in JA not be so dark beneath it... It's probably due to my lighting coming in from a very steep angle, more than anything...

Aha. Decompiled the map and while they are ingenious about it, it really wouldn't suit my purposes here...

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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited February 04, 2004).]
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2004-02-04, 12:51 PM #44
Oooh, tell us how they did it Gonk!

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2004-02-04, 1:01 PM #45
Hey Gonk, how exactly DID you get the falcon to have such good clipping? (whenever i set up clipping, it always ends up like a brick wall)

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2004-02-04, 2:58 PM #46
Ok, I just emailed the routes in a zip file so hopefully they will get through this time.
2004-02-04, 4:27 PM #47
Captain: Thanks a bunch, I got it. It works quite well, so it'll stay. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] (And you're appropriately accredited in the readme, naturally. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif])

Thrawn: misc_model_static, with HEINOUS amounts of very accurate clip brushes, and brushes that are all caulk save the top that make a good outline of the ship, buried inside the actual model.

Forsakahn: spawnflags 2 on an .md3 model = self-clipping. I just had to clean it up a bit so as to make it easier to fight on/under (notably around the gun turrets). The clipping on the bottom is better in the very latest build which is going to go up soon enough, it'll have Captain's botroutes in there as well.


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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited February 04, 2004).]
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2004-02-04, 11:57 PM #48
Get the latest Q3Map2, and add spawnflags 6 to that model, so you'll have it lightmapped as well.

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2004-02-05, 2:17 AM #49
I made a fool of myself, I forgot to thank ZUl for those great textures, keep up the nice work. Also though the level looks great, I found that after playing it, it was basicly simple shapes and archatechture (sp). The only thing that I personaly thought would be difficult is making those tarps around the stadium, and getting the shadows to place under tham correctly,the domes ontop of some of the buildings, and the lighting. But It still looks great.


Also Zul, is anyone free to use your textures?

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2004-02-05, 10:45 AM #50
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Arkon11:
Also though the level looks great, I found that after playing it, it was basicly simple shapes and archatechture (sp). The only thing that I personaly thought would be difficult is making those tarps around the stadium, and getting the shadows to place under tham correctly,the domes ontop of some of the buildings, and the lighting.
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Yes, the architecture and brushwork are simple shapes. That's INTENTIONAL. It conforms to the shapes that I was looking at in source material of Tatooine at the time. Simply because I could have made everything infinitely detailed and intricate doesn't mean that I SHOULD have... It's Tatooine. It's not much more than simple shapes. I'm not seeing your point behind mentioning it, as anyone who played the level would realize that.

If you were being sarcastic or something, I apologize as that doesn't translate well in text.

Meanwhile, I'm uploading the latest build with Captain's botroutes to the server now. So now people can play it with bots and such.. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited February 05, 2004).]
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2004-02-05, 11:45 AM #51
I believe he was trying to say that the level is just textures and not architecture, and therefore not that great other than the textures. How it sounds to me anyways.

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2004-02-05, 11:50 AM #52
But it looks like Tatooine. We all know Gonk isn't lacking in architectural skills at all. I would say the simplicity of this level is a testament to that. It's simple, but it's accurately simple. Less is more, in this case.
2004-02-05, 11:54 AM #53
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Arkon11:
I made a fool of myself, I forgot to thank ZUl for those great textures, keep up the nice work. Also though the level looks great, I found that after playing it, it was basicly simple shapes and archatechture (sp). The only thing that I personaly thought would be difficult is making those tarps around the stadium, and getting the shadows to place under tham correctly,the domes ontop of some of the buildings, and the lighting. But It still looks great.


Also Zul, is anyone free to use your textures?

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I'm sorry, but that's an extraordinarily stupid thing to say about a Tatooine map. What were you expecting, gleaming skyscrapers and factories?
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2004-02-05, 2:00 PM #54
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">: Originally posted by Sine Nomen:
"What were you expecting, gleaming skyscrapers and factories?"</font>


(*Looks around suspiciously)

As for the heinous amounts of clipping brushes, i can confirm that, simply by opening any of the maps reven included with the new GTK radiant. Still, i will give spawnflags=6 a try. thanx.

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2004-02-06, 8:14 AM #55
Gonk sucks.

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2004-02-06, 3:26 PM #56
Gonk, would you mind if I used your textures and duplicated some of your architecture for my level in the AotCTC? You pretty much hit the nail on the head with your building designs.

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2004-02-06, 4:27 PM #57
They're Zully's textures. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] So you'll have to ask him, but as for the designs... eh they're pretty much taken straight from ANH/RotJ and the prequels, plust some SWG.. so I wouldn't complain...

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2004-02-07, 11:54 AM #58
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zuljin:
Gonk sucks.

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Zuljin should be known as the Screen of the Day Axe Murderer... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]

[This message has been edited by Daft_Vader (edited February 07, 2004).]
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2004-02-07, 12:15 PM #59
...What?

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2004-02-07, 2:52 PM #60
... every time I've ever seen Zuljin comment on a SotD, he's told the author how much he/she sucks.
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2004-02-07, 2:59 PM #61
... SotD threads that more likely than not I had some hand in making.

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2004-02-07, 4:16 PM #62
If you spite people for using your textures, why make them?
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2004-02-07, 4:22 PM #63
LOOK, OVER THERE! YOU JUST MISSED IT! IT'S... IT'S... THE JOKE! YOU COMPLETELY MISSED IT!

Go cry in a hole.
2004-02-08, 5:37 AM #64
It's not funny, its irritating. Besides, you can't detect sarcasm on forums?
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2004-02-08, 7:15 AM #65
We can. You can't.

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2004-02-08, 7:25 AM #66
I've always thought Gonk AND Zully suck. But that's just me.

Good: So tatoonie it'd blend in with the movie sets.

Bad: Tarp Shadows. Increase your lightmap scale.

[This message has been edited by JM (edited February 08, 2004).]
2004-02-08, 8:33 AM #67
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gonk:
If you were being sarcastic or something, I apologize as that doesn't translate well in text.
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[This message has been edited by Daft_Vader (edited February 08, 2004).]
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2004-02-08, 8:38 AM #68
That was towards Arkon. Not towards Zully.

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2004-02-08, 10:15 AM #69
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JM:
I've always thought Gonk AND Zully suck. But that's just me.</font>


No, it's not just you. They both suck a lot.
2004-02-08, 11:47 AM #70
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gothicX:
That was towards Arkon. Not towards Zully.

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Now who's not getting the point? What I'm trying to say is that I'm clearly not the
only one here who thinks that it's hard to pick up on sarcasm when you're reading it and not listening to it!
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2004-02-08, 12:59 PM #71
Can we please stop the burgeoning flame war?

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2004-02-08, 1:02 PM #72
What a stupid question, you filthy bot.

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2004-02-08, 1:16 PM #73
Gonk should put a Gonk there, imo. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

..I know, I said it before..

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2004-02-08, 2:15 PM #74
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gonk:
Can we please stop the burgeoning flame war?

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Can you please not suck? It hurts me. :gbk:
2004-02-08, 4:06 PM #75
Glad too know I'm not alone Fourwood.

You know I think you suck too, right?

And where the hell have you been hiding?

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2004-02-08, 5:44 PM #76
Hiding? I do no such thing!

Oh, and I must contest. I do not suck! I don't make things like this:
[http://www.jedilegacy.net/gonk/duel_dustball1.jpg]

If I did, then I'd agree with you. But (un)fortunately, I do not create such horrendous level designs.
2004-02-09, 3:26 AM #77
GONK WINS, Gonk I just love this map, but I think it is too big for a duel map. Make it a FFA, if you think it is a little small for that, make it a bit bigger then.

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2004-02-09, 5:18 AM #78
What is all this noise!?

To stay with the map. Gonk you have done it again. This map is excellant. Although you state it's in beta there are a few things I have noticed. I have not played the map yet, but I will crit from the screenshot. You should make the canopys surounding the starpad wave like flags. If you notice in SWG and KOTOR They will. And the texture surronding the inner bowl of the starpad seems too streched. But over all GOOD WORK! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-02-09, 7:52 AM #79
Uhhh, wow.
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2004-02-09, 11:39 AM #80
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Casperhead:
What is all this noise!?

To stay with the map. Gonk you have done it again. This map is excellant. Although you state it's in beta there are a few things I have noticed. I have not played the map yet, but I will crit from the screenshot. You should make the canopys surounding the starpad wave like flags. If you notice in SWG and KOTOR They will. And the texture surronding the inner bowl of the starpad seems too streched. But over all GOOD WORK! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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Due to how the shader for the tarps work... that's not really a possibility. I've tried it. The top and bottom will actually move INTO one another, and it just looks generally screwed up. So I decided to leave it as is. I suppose I could work out an opposite deformation for the underside so that it'd match the top, but I honestly don't think its necessary, and it'd be prone to creating more tris for me to deal with. So it'll have to stay as is.

That said aside from minor things (like the skybox having only one sun) I think this is pretty much set to go. Watch for a release this week sometime. I want to make sure I haven't screwed anything up between the last beta build (which is now a 404) and what I'll be releasing. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, and I'll move to get this out ASAP! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]


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