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Sith Architecture
2004-02-14, 10:57 AM #1
Can be interesting... This is for the levelsource contest, and it's really really really simple. Like nothing like what I've been seeing done for the competition, and I'll probably lose horribly (hell, more than likely), but I need to get one out, and I started late...

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Two

Its still barren, right now. I need to add more stuff, and tweak the lighting some (I'm going for that odd Sith faint purple that you saw in MotS), etc.

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2004-02-14, 12:24 PM #2
Nice... but it's too dark to see much of anything. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] But then again I have lights on in here, heh. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-02-14, 12:25 PM #3
I can barely see anything. It does look good so far.

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2004-02-14, 12:26 PM #4
Kickass.
2004-02-14, 1:30 PM #5
my evil lair can beat up your evil lair

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2004-02-14, 1:35 PM #6
I'll add tell you what i think when you add more to it. right now, you don't want to know what i think.

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2004-02-14, 1:49 PM #7
Oh, and where did you find that lava shader? It's not under the Korriban set.
2004-02-14, 3:06 PM #8
custom shader, billy.

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2004-02-14, 3:54 PM #9
A little less detailed than most of your works, especially on the repetetive floor texture. It's a great design though, and a great place to start.

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2004-02-14, 4:41 PM #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by saberopus:
custom shader, billy.

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Oh. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

It's nice.


...yeah.
2004-02-15, 12:58 AM #11
I expected better, honestly. This isn't as Gonktastic as your other maps.

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2004-02-15, 5:06 AM #12
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gothicX:
I expected better, honestly. This isn't as Gonktastic as your other maps.

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Yeah, I'll have to agree. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] And yeah, it's way too dark. It could become great, though. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-02-15, 5:12 AM #13
Like I said it's weak. For now. Give me time.

Update:

Three

Four

I need to fix a few things (notably where those crystal statues are... I'm debating ditching them because of the quite yellow crystal, although if someone were willing to texture it to more of a purple... that'd work... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]), and find some textures that work, and still add some more to it... but these shots are notably brighter...

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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited February 15, 2004).]
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2004-02-15, 9:37 AM #14
Gonk, take the textures, and run them through Irfanview with the RGB -> BRG filter. That should make them purple.

[Edit: Oh, and that's purdy. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]]

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2004-02-15, 9:46 AM #15
I don't want them OVERTLY purple though. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] Personally I think what's there now is quite enough purple... as it can very easily become gaudy. You never know, I might tweak it. However some of the textures will change, notably the floor, and the big pillars... <3 zully.

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2004-02-15, 10:05 AM #16
Gonkish, I don't know if anyone has told you this, but you released Duel_Turbulent with only one spawn point. Anyway, I don't think I like the lava.
2004-02-15, 10:26 AM #17
My only suggestion would be to come up with a style of Sith architecture before you do anything else, and use that as a guide. A type of curve, or an architectural theme, something to give the level a distinctive feel and to give the sense that it's not just another temple.

Also, I'd only use a few textures, and even then ones that are very similar in shade and style. I think it's important that the textures and architecture be the same style, so just some generic stone might do nicely.
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2004-02-15, 10:47 AM #18
Turbulent does NOT have only one spawn point... I'm staring at the map file right now... :P

Also, Sine, I'm inclined to agree. I can't, however, find textures in JA that'd work for those pillar things. The inspiration for the map was largely a combination of Yavin 4 and the Sith Academy/Tombs in KotOR. I'm finding it difficult to make it distinctive, however. Any ideas?

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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited February 15, 2004).]
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2004-02-15, 11:47 AM #19
I don't know, doesn't ydnar have some decent generic stone? Maybe you could interlace some of it with glowing strands or something. Sharp, angular shapes might make it look more aggressive.

[This message has been edited by Sine Nomen (edited February 15, 2004).]
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2004-02-15, 12:23 PM #20
He may.. but the thing is.. shaderlab is currently down... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] Ydnar is reconstructing it apparently.

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2004-02-15, 12:30 PM #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Gonk: "The inspiration for the map was largely a combination of Yavin 4 and the Sith Academy/Tombs in KotOR."</font>


hehe. Anyone ever find it ironic that the Jedi are based out of an ancient Sith temple in the EU?

As for the map, shot 3 looks pretty damned amazing as it is... but shot 4.... well..... it needs a little work.

Keep it up!

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2004-02-15, 12:54 PM #22
I like it a lot. Maybe you could use a different lava texture though?

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2004-02-15, 1:43 PM #23
Elevators! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/mad.gif]

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2004-02-15, 1:58 PM #24
I must contact Raven...

Meanwhile..

Five

Six
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2004-02-15, 2:31 PM #25
Looks Sithy! Whadja gonna put on the altar? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-02-15, 2:38 PM #26
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sine Nomen:
My only suggestion would be to come up with a style of Sith architecture before you do anything else, and use that as a guide. A type of curve, or an architectural theme, something to give the level a distinctive feel and to give the sense that it's not just another temple.

Also, I'd only use a few textures, and even then ones that are very similar in shade and style. I think it's important that the textures and architecture be the same style, so just some generic stone might do nicely. </font>


If you want it to look even more Sith-like, use the latter MotS levels for some ideas. If I recall they had a crypt. Maybe some hollowed out niches in the walls, lined with sarcophagi(sp?) would give some good ambiance.

Come to think of it, the MotS levels were also filled with stone carvings, sort of like Hieroglyphics I think you might need some more emphasis on ornate, swirling murals. I don't know what sort of textures the game has, but the level definately needs even more characteristics (textures, archi, lighting) distinctive to the Sith.

Excellent work though!


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2004-02-15, 3:02 PM #27
Yeah the sith have a very distinctive style.. Zully is actually being very awesome and is making me some sith-y textures and such...

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2004-02-15, 3:26 PM #28
It's wierd, but it almost doesn't fell like star wars. It feels more like... maybe the Unreal series or perhaps Legacy of Kain.

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2004-02-15, 6:11 PM #29
That center area in 0111 is coming along nicely.
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2004-02-15, 6:56 PM #30
Shots 5 and 6 are a huge improvement in my opinion. I think you got it just about light enough, and everything else looks great.

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2004-02-16, 7:13 AM #31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gonk:
I must contact Raven...</font>


There's nothing they can tell you, other than, "Sorry, we were too lazy to make those entities for multiplayer, you're screwed, haha!" So you have to do it with func_bobbings and func_trains instead.

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2004-02-16, 8:02 AM #32
Zully made me some very nice sithy textures in the mots swirly style a while ago. I have them somewhere, and I'm sure he does too.

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2004-02-16, 11:08 AM #33
Yeah he directed me to a few of them..

Another problem is trying to find "oooo evil" sith-y music. None of the music in JA is really...evil... its Star Wars all right, but its not really... evil enough. KotOR had it down in SPADES but for obvious reasons I can't be using that (copyrights are FUN). [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-02-16, 11:33 AM #34
Use the RotJ music. Massassi is the most anal of all file places, and even the staff has told me they accept music, especially if it's Star Wars. Star Wars music is distributed all the time in fan films, and even George Lucas judeged those himself. It may not be legal, but damn, no one really cares.

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2004-02-16, 12:17 PM #35
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gonk:
Yeah he directed me to a few of them..

Another problem is trying to find "oooo evil" sith-y music. None of the music in JA is really...evil... its Star Wars all right, but its not really... evil enough. KotOR had it down in SPADES but for obvious reasons I can't be using that (copyrights are FUN). [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]
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Yeah. I can see Malak's theme being used here.


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2004-02-16, 12:54 PM #36
Sadly, i havn't played Kotor, so i can't comment on themes from that game (*ducks from random objects thrown from all directions).

For music though, there was SOME good stuff out of the EP1:TPM soundtrack. the ultimate edition has the best selection (speaking of which, does anyone know if there was ever an Ultimate edition released for EP2?). But one theme i could really see in that map (or rather "hear") is "Tarawa" from Snow Falling on Cedars (the theme from the Matrix Revolutions trailers).

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2004-02-16, 1:13 PM #37
Seven

Eight

Nine

Ten

The Dynamic glow is on in these. Apparently it finally works correctly with the Catalyst 4.2s from ATI... Anyways... a few things will change yet. Zul is out of town or something, so I'll have to wait a bit. However, the new floor texture is admittedly quite "clean".. I'm gonna see if zully can get me a version that's dirtied up a bit more... missing tiles and such. Also, the rise to the sarcophagus will hopefully have a darker variant of the tiles or an entirely different (and darker) texture to distinguish it from the larger floor...



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2004-02-16, 1:16 PM #38
Gimme secks.

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2004-02-16, 1:22 PM #39
OH GOD! ME EYES! ME EYEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!

Turn down the brightness on that lava before i go blind!!!!!!

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2004-02-16, 1:26 PM #40
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Forsakahn:
OH GOD! ME EYES! ME EYEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!

Turn down the brightness on that lava before i go blind!!!!!!

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I can tone down the light being cast by the shader... however the brightness is primarily due to the glow... and to lessen that would require me to darken the texture in general.. which I really don't know how to do. :P

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