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* Heavy Breathing *
2005-03-25, 1:38 PM #1
What the hell's wrong with the showcase forum at the moment? There seems to have be very little in the actual map department on display lately. We've been reduced to people posting baby pictures for Chrissakes!

Anyway, I've been working real hard on my Vader level all day today, so am in a mood for some feedback. Lemme know what you think...

Rebels preparing for Imperial attack:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15741.jpg]

A corridor:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15742.jpg]

AT-ST attack:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15743.jpg]

Hangar battle:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15744.jpg]

Pissed off Wookiee:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15745.jpg]

Cutting down the catwalk supports causes puny Rebels to fall to their deaths:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15746.jpg]

The screenshots seem to look a lot darker than it does in-game, so sorry about that.
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2005-03-25, 1:47 PM #2
Nice! Very atmospheric!

Do you get to fight Skywalker?
2005-03-25, 2:41 PM #3
No, this takes place a few years before the Original Trilogy.
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2005-03-25, 3:29 PM #4
I've been wondering about this map, about how much complete is it in %?
nope.
2005-03-25, 3:37 PM #5
Hard to say really... I'm making it up as I go along.
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2005-03-25, 4:59 PM #6
It's great that you're putting alot of detail into corridoors, it all adds to the atmosphere.

At first I disliked the red lighting but after playing the bit of the level you released it's grown on me.

I like how the X-Wing is attached to the roof.

I think a "rush" should be involved, incase destroying rebel soldiers begins to get old. Like a stormtrooper telling you that a shuttle is being loaded and readied for departure on the other side of the base. Then the player has an objective. Then perhaps if you've run out of ideas for the base, the shuttle can escape and somehow end up crashing, and Vader is forced to go outside.
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2005-03-26, 1:11 AM #7
Yeah, the opening is very chaotic, then Vader gets split up from the Imperials and goes on his own for a while, the tone of the level changes completely, goes a lot darker.

Level's come a long way since the first thread:

http://forums.massassi.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25770
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2005-03-26, 8:36 AM #8
I like where this is going. Did you improve the stormtrooper squad (meaning, they can follow you better)? :)
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2005-03-26, 8:41 AM #9
Yep! I basically redid all the waypoints in the level, all the AI works much better.
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2005-03-26, 8:50 AM #10
If I can remember from the last time, the player was able to "select" which stormtroopers can follow you with the "use" key. Did you try out directing the stormtroopers with mind trick and scripts (so you can "select" them from a futher distance)?
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2005-03-26, 8:56 AM #11
Nah.. it's like the Barneys in the first Half-Life. You go up to them, press the use key, Vader says "Come with me.", Stormtrooper says "Yes Sir.", and he'll follow you until either he dies or you press use again, at which point Vader will tell the trooper to "Secure this area."

Works like a charm. I'd rather keep it this way than have it done from a distance, it's not a squad-based level.
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2005-03-26, 10:16 PM #12
Have you settled on actors yet (besides the 90% of the work going to DAK)?
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2005-03-26, 10:36 PM #13
i can't even put how i feel right now into words. you're putting a lot of raven's sp work to shame.
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2005-03-26, 11:00 PM #14
Aye. That is damn sexy.
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2005-03-26, 11:25 PM #15
Quote:
Originally posted by Goit
At first I disliked the red lighting but after playing the bit of the level you released it's grown on me.


There was some of this released? Where?
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2005-03-26, 11:47 PM #16
Looking great!
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2005-03-27, 1:10 AM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Gebohq
There was some of this released? Where?


I've been releasing public betas on the Map Review forums.

Mainly for performance reasons. I don't want the same thing to happen to this level what happened to Party Crasher. Some people were [experiencing] unplayable framerate on that level, but it was too late to fix before I found out, it would've taken rebuilding most of the level.

[edit: Changed "expecting" to "experiencing"]
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2005-03-27, 12:38 PM #18
More screens:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15751.jpg]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15752.jpg]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15753.jpg]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15754.jpg]
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2005-03-27, 1:26 PM #19
Very, very, very nice. I can't wait to play it.
2005-03-27, 2:10 PM #20
Now I gotta buy JA :P!
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2005-03-27, 2:36 PM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by Dart Zaidyer
Have you settled on actors yet (besides the 90% of the work going to DAK)?


Sorry, I overlooked this post earlier.

I'm actually OK for actors, there isn't that much dialogue in the level, it is mostly action-based. In fact, only one out of three of the cutscenes I've done so far has any dialogue at all.

The cast of characters at the moment:

DAK: Darth Vader / General Mohc
Chris Hill: Lt. Shander (a dim-witted Imperial who had a small part in BoaM3)

The Emperor may have a small part too, again DAK will fill that as his Emperor voice is just too good.

I may need some generic Rebel/Imperial voices, I'll probably recruit for those on the forums.
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2005-04-01, 12:10 PM #22
Mohc again? Doesn't that guy ever die? :p

2005-04-01, 3:39 PM #23
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Mega_ZZTer
Mohc again? Doesn't that guy ever die? :p


Never played Dark Forces?
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2005-04-01, 4:28 PM #24
Looks good. I like the abundant red on black contrast. Very Vaderish.

You need to architeturize the pipes on the ceiling in the last two screenies. They look fake with the texture applied on a flat surface.
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2005-04-01, 5:39 PM #25
[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15754.jpg]
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"... Brilliance!
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2005-04-02, 9:01 AM #26
I'm pretty excited for this, Ant.
2005-04-02, 6:13 PM #27
Quote:
Originally posted by Blood Asp
i can't even put how i feel right now into words. you're putting a lot of raven's sp work to shame.


I agree. I haven't played JA in a long time, but I will definitely break it out when this level comes out.
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2005-04-02, 6:32 PM #28
/me humps
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2005-04-05, 11:15 AM #29
New choking animation in cutscene:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15797.jpg]

Because the Vader model I'm currently using has the JO skeleton, the animation hasn't been performed correctly. It should only be the index and middle finger that Vader holds up, with the other two clutched. It'll look better when I get a new model for the level, but there's some tweaking I want to do to it anyway.
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2005-04-05, 11:20 AM #30
Here we go, the NeoMarz model shows the animation off a lot better:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15798.jpg]
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2005-04-05, 11:29 AM #31
/me humps
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2005-04-05, 1:03 PM #32
Quote:
Originally posted by AKPiggott
Never played Dark Forces?


Meh... I guess all your stories with him happened BEFORE then, I suppose. :p

2005-04-05, 3:49 PM #33
Yep, that's my excuse.

Here's an update to that same shot, looks a lot better now:

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/15804.jpg]

[Edit: Fixed the fingers.]
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2005-04-06, 8:59 AM #34
Well I must say thats a wonderful piece of work, hell, WAY past wonderful. I'm downloading your party crasher level tonight to play some of it, but MAN I can't wait to get my hands on this little sweetie.

The mood of the level seems quite gripping. I don't know if its out of possibility but you should try and maybe tone down the acrobaties that you can pull in JO, maybe slow them, make them more agressive. I don't see Darth Vader doing flips and running like hell's on his tail. Of course, thats just a thought.

Keep up the outstanding work!!

Ah, if I still had the time to learn :(

Well, if you ever need skins let me know ;P
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2005-04-06, 9:58 AM #35
Thanks for the comments Jep.

I've made Vader move a lot slower than the default player, taken away force jump and force speed, and limited his saber stance to the strong one handed Desann stance. The player feels a lot more weighted but at the same time, a lot stronger.
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2005-04-06, 11:17 AM #36
Hmm. I think Vader would say "The Emperor" not "My Master" when talking to someone else about him.

2005-04-06, 11:44 AM #37
I like the sound of "my master" better. Makes Vader seem more like a loyal slave simply abiding his master's will.
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2005-04-06, 11:49 AM #38
From what I remember, Vader usually says "the Emperor" when talking to others and "my master" when talking to the Emperor himself. "The Emperor will not be as forgiving as I am." "Yes, my master" etc.
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2005-04-06, 11:56 AM #39
Looking good Piggott! Can't wait to play this.

Quote:
Originally posted by Emon
From what I remember, Vader usually says "the Emperor" when talking to others and "my master" when talking to the Emperor himself. "The Emperor will not be as forgiving as I am." "Yes, my master" etc.


Emon and Mega are right, in the original trilogy he did say the Emperor when addressing to another person and said "my master" when addressing to the Emperor.
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2005-04-06, 12:14 PM #40
To Luke, "I must obey my Master."

I don't care really, I just think it sounds better. It's staying.
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