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Nar's Cityscape facelift...
2006-03-16, 12:04 AM #41
Originally posted by zagibu:
That doesn't make any sense. Nar Shaddaa is a moon, right, not just a collection of some floating buildings? So how could you ever see stars through the surface of the moon? Or are you really going to say it's buildings are so high to include complete solar systems?


No, it does make sense. Ofcourse Nar Shaddaa is a moon, but the buildings are miles high, so if you're high up enough and you look down, the moon's surface only 'covers' a part of your view. Everything else you could see beside the ('shadow' of the) moon would be space and stars. That's what I meant.

Originally posted by CaptBevvil:
I want this to be an enhancement and not something that was completely overhauled. I want there to be enough of the old to bring out the nostalgia of playing the original. I'm sorry if you disagree, but that is the design choice I made.


I totally support you in that choice. I would have done exactly the same thing. :)
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2006-03-16, 12:14 AM #42
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
No, it does make sense. Ofcourse Nar Shaddaa is a moon, but the buildings are miles high, so if you're high up enough and you look down, the moon's surface only 'covers' a part of your view. Everything else you could see beside the ('shadow' of the) moon would be space and stars. That's what I meant.


Umm, I don't get what you're saying, I mean, if you have a really high building and look down, you'll see the ground. I doubt that the building is so tall that you can see around the moon. And even if it was, you still have the other buildings in the city to to block your view.
Sam: "Sir we can't call it 'The Enterprise'"
Jack: "Why not!"
2006-03-16, 3:54 AM #43
Yeah...the buildings would have to be so many miles high that you could see around the curvature of the moon. The buildings are not THAT big and the moon is not THAT small.

Either way, there are other buildings around you to block the view.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2006-03-16, 6:59 AM #44
Originally posted by Emon:
The buildings are not THAT big and the moon is not THAT small.


Says who? :p In my imagination it's very possible, lol. In the place where I live, there is a tower that's 185 meters high. (Not that high at all). If you stand on top of that thing, you can see really well the curvature of the earth. Now if I imagine that tower to be ten or twenty times as high, and if I imagine the earth to be roughly 1/5th of its size, I can very well see how the surface of the planet would occupy a part of my view that is much and much smaller.

I always thought that was the very reason why in almost every Nar Shaddaa level, you see stars 'under' you. Noone ever included the moon's surface as part of the view in a Nar Shaddaa level. However, like someone said, it is probably indeed the lights of the buildings in the darkness below that you see, which I think is very plausible.

As far as buildings go; It's not like all the buildings in Nar Shaddaa are grouped that closely together. (I'm just replying to Emon & SG-fan here - this is not criticism of the screenies). If you look at the opening cutscene, You'll see there are places where there's a lot of space between the buildings. Blocks of buildings are built on and around huge central spires that support them. It's not like every single building has its base on the moon itself. In that respect, it is very different from -for example- Coruscant. Also, some buildingblocks are definitely 'floating' in the air. Look at this picture from the starwars.com database.

But all of this is getting too technical... lol. I really don't care at all actually, the 'discussion' just interests me because Nar Shaddaa is my all-time favourite Star Wars location. :)
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2006-03-16, 7:15 AM #45
Who says they're floating? They just extend downward into the fog.

And of course you can see the curvature of the earth from tall buildings. But what you're saying is that it's SO high that you can see around the entire moon, which is rather absurd.

But definitely, glowing lights are a must! Transparently textured 3DOs could be placed anywhere in the darkness, that would be the easiest method, I think.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2006-03-16, 7:18 AM #46
Originally posted by Emon:
But what you're saying is that it's SO high that you can see around the entire moon, which is rather absurd.


That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying you can see 'beside' it, partly. But nevermind. It's just too trivial.

[edit]And yeah, nevermind about the floating. What I said about buildingblocks being built around and supported by huge central spires is correct, though. I've read it in descriptions.[/edit]
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2006-03-16, 10:18 AM #47
But either way, there should be lights down below. Some people will call them lights from lower buildings, and others will call them stars ;) But we can all agree, that there should be some lights.
Sam: "Sir we can't call it 'The Enterprise'"
Jack: "Why not!"
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