I've decided, and for those of you who saw my "Today was a very, VERY good day" thread, I'm taking the plunge. That's right, tomorrow, I will force myself to get that girl's phone numbar.

To make this thread official--name a time you've overcome your fears.

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Good for you.

And for me overcoming my fears: There was this one time when I was scared of jumping off of cliffs. So I jumped off of one. I tragicly died later that day.

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"I'm going to beat you until the laws of physics are violated!!" ! Maeve's Warcry

RIP -MaDaVentor-. You will be missed.

posting here..


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Tell us how it goes and I'll tell you what you did wrong and how to correct it.


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You are but one step in a thousand-mile journey, my child.

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Ah, but every journey starts with one step.

Assuming you're headed in the right direction, in which case I guess it starts with a negative step..

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"I'm going to beat you until the laws of physics are violated!!" ! Maeve's Warcry

RIP -MaDaVentor-. You will be missed.

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I remember walking into McDonalds when I was in college and seeing the girl from school that I was going to finally talk to. I actually stopped dead in my tracks, breathed in so deep, and couldn't breathe out until my buddy nudged me with his elbow.
He bugged me for weeks about that. LOL!! Oh man.

Getting over that feeling is very difficult. But well worth it when you do. No matter what the outcome.

Do it. Make sure you do or you will be upset with yourself the rest of the day.
Trust me. I've had more years of experience asking girls out than you've been alive.

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babble, babble, b!tch, b!tch, rebel, rebel, party, party.

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15 years ago or so, my gf made me go on a roller coaster at Canada's Wonderland. I literally almost cried. If I wasn't in public, I would have, I was so scared. heh...

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[This message has been edited by Darth Evad (edited April 01, 2004).]

Well....I'm proud of myself in that I got the guts to ask her. She said "She wasn't ready for a relationship right now", which I really wish I knew how to take that. Definitely not a good way to start off your weekend...

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The girl i like just asked me for MY phone number

She has a boyfriend though

Anyways - you never know until you ask. You have nothing to lose (apart from maybe a good friendship if your already friends )

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Sweet irony...

As soon as you realize that most girls are just as or more clueless than you, everything becomes much easier.

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What she means is, she doesn't like you like the way you like her. She just didn't want to make you feel bad.

Sorry, but you prolly have a 0% chance wit her now.

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My advice is to move on. I've seen too many friends get hurt when they don't move on in when a girl says that line.

This pisses me off. I hate it when girls keep forgetting to complete their sentences. She meant to say "I'm not ready for a relationship with you because you are wishy washy."

Had you had confidence with women(which I already no you don't), I doesn't matter if a girl has a boyfriend, she'll still be into you. *points to Sats* And I'm not saying she would cheat on him for you. She would jsut really like you. A lot.

Go do something to better yourself and boost your confidence. The best one is probably working out. Nothing inflates the ego like having some muscle. Another good thing to try is ask for more than one girl's number at a time so if one flakes off, you have others. In order to help you further, I need more info. Try to remember exactly how the conversation went down, word for word.

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Well, it was really rushed, and after class I went up to her and this is how it went,
Me:"Hey, *****, could I get your number? I was thinking we could do something this weekend."
*****:"Oh, sorry, I'm just...not..."

That was it. The look on her face told me the rest, so I moved on. I wasn't really depressed about it, but later I realized how much I miss my friends (haven't seen them in a year and a half) and that got me REALLY depressed. That little bit didn't help. Ah well, I think I'll ask her again in a few weeks, let things blow over and whatnot. I'm not giving up!


And no offense, Em, but I think I have a better chance than 0. If I figured I'd have a 0 chance afterwards, at all, I wouldn't have asked. Maybe she really ISN'T ready for a relationship; according to her friends, she hasn't gone out with anyone in a while. We'll see though.
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[This message has been edited by Dj Yoshi (edited April 02, 2004).]

Mistake #1: Ambushing her with the question like that. Never have the first thing out of your mouth be "Can I get your number?".

Mistake #2:You asked for permission and thus gave up control of the situation. "Could I get your number?" Instead, don't ask. Just say "Give me your number". Side Note: There are some clever lines for people you just met such as
"Do you have a business card?"
"No."
*you pull out a piece of paper or grab a napkin and a pen and hand them to her* "Then make me one."

Mistake #3: By saying "we could do something" you kill yourself in two ways. First, you imply that you have no plans that you could otherwise make. Secondly, because of that you make this about her, and it shouldn't be. It should be about you. You also didn't give anything specific. Try this sometime: "I'm [insert a low cost or no cost activity here, like watching movies at your house(but don't give a place)] [insert general time and not a specific time unless the activity starting time has to be specific. You did this part. But remember not to make the activity any more than two days in advance]. You should join me." That implies that you are going to do it and enjoy yourself even if she doesn't come and that you don't need her. If she says she'll come, give her a more specific yet openended time like "Sixish".

Mistake #4: You asked for a phone number and a date in the same conversation. Never do that. Get her number, call her a few days later(3-5), talk a little, then tell her about what you are doing and invite her(notice I didn't say "ask her to come").

Mistake #5: Like I said before, you made this more about her than about you. Bad.

Mistake #6: ("I wasn't really depressed about it"). Actually, this isn't a mistake, I just didn't want to break the continuum but I wanted to mention it. Good boy.

Mistake #7: ("Ah well, I think I'll ask her again in a few weeks, let things blow over and whatnot. I'm not giving up!"). Hello Mr. Desperate, how are you? Seriously, get over her. You are more important than she is and by pursuing this course of action you are only hurting yourself because of her. There are more(and better) fish in the sea.
Mistake #8: Thinking you can change a woman's mind. A woman usually decides within minutes or even seconds of meeting someone if they are dating material or not. You have already been ruled as not and it just isn't worth it to try to convince her and inevitably fail. Also, the "I'm not ready for a relationship" line is BS. If a woman is interested in some guy, the fires of hell won't keep them from going out on a date with him or showing some very strong and obvious liking towards him.
Em was wrong. Your chance for success of turning this around is 0.000001. That's not taking into account that women can smell desperation.

Okay, I'm going to post this and then post what I would have done in your situation.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited April 02, 2004).]

Haha, the first time I read that I thought you were calling her "b****." Silly me.

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lol @ nerd 1 taking advice from nerd 2

Although, I do agree with working out. It'll make you feel good... if ya want tips on workin out, just ask me.

Hmm, I agree with Mistake #1

lol @ number 2... demanding a phone number won't get you anywhere. But first get to know her some then politely ask for her phone number so you can keep in touch with her.

Mistake 3 is kinda off too... asking movies at your house is a kind of intimate thing, especially since you don't know her. Ask her to lunch or a movie at a theater.

Mistake 4 doesn't always apply. There's no rule that says you can't ask her out at the same time. In fact, sometimes it works better that way. For example, "Hey Stacy, I'm gonna get somethin to eat after school, wanna come?" "Sure" "Alright, lemme get your number so I can call ya to pick you up"

Mistake 7 is true. If she doesn't like you, get over it. You look like a pathetic punk if you continue to ask her when she already said no.

Mistake 8 doesn't always apply. Sometimes chicks play hard to get, or they judge you wrong. The more you hang around with a chick and gets comfortable with you, the more likely she'll get attracted to you even if she wasn't in the first place.

The 0% chance came AFTER you asked her. Switch roles with her for a sec. If some girl that you had NO interest asked you to a movie or whatever and you said no, would you change your mind a week later?

Lastly, you don't have to go all in depth like Kieran is suggesting. Girls don't analyze each word you say so don't be threatened by what he's telling you to do. Many dudes overthink everything and come off as being stupid. Just go with the flow and do your own thing. You don't have to follow anyone's advice, (including mine) just do your own thing.

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(I'm going to just give her a name since I really don't feel like using *****)

You: Hey Ashley, how's it going?

Ashley: Oh, it's okay. I'm just going to my next class

You: What's your next class?

Ashley: [insert class]

You: That sounds interesting. Listen, I'm going to be watching movies this weekend. You should join me.

Ashley: When?

You: Saturday. Probably around noon.

Ashley: Alright, I'll be there.

You: Here's my address *write down your address somewhere, paper or on her arm*

You: Well, I've got to get to class. See you later. And don't be late.

*and you walk off*

Notice something important here: you ended the conversation on a high note and after little talking. Important. Now, obviously I did this with the minimum that should be done. I'm going to give you another scenario with more stuff that you probably won't quite understand why, but it improves chances.

Now, suppose I walk by some girl in the hallway during lunch or whatever.

Me: Hello there.

Her: Hi *she keeps walking right past me*

Me: Well jeez, nice to meet you too.

Her: Oh sorry, it's just I have a lot on my mind right now

Me: Oh, I understand. After all, it does take a lot to impress me

Her: *chuckle* Sorry, but I wasn't thinking about you

Me: Yeah right. I saw you check out my *** . And I don't appreciate being treated like a piece of meat.

*insert "I can't believe you just said that look" from her*

Me: I don't have time to file charges right now, so just give me your name and [number/e-mail/e-mail and number, preferably e-mail because we just met] and I'll have my lawyer contact you. My name is Rob.

*she gives me her name and number on a piece of paper or on my skin*

Me: I have to go. Now I'm late and I'm going to have to hurry.

*I walk off*

Now obviously that is only one possible way I could have gotten her number, that is only one way she could have acted, etc, etc. In fact, that encounter is a little too short for my tastes, but doable. Also, I would have kept it evident that I was joking.

There is probably something else I could type, but I'm tired of typing right now. I want to frag something.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited April 02, 2004).]

lol @ nerd 3 acting all macho and giving advice to nerd 1

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The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.

Uhhh, that second conversation was just stupid. I don't recommend doing that to anyone, unless you're like in elementary school.

And Spork, I'm not the one with the girl problems, ok?

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actually Em, something similiar happened to my friend and it worked beautifully. He likes to combine a bit of arrogance with humor and I do as well every so often. Not required, but it's fun.

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Arrogance-with-Levity is quite fun.

Plus Det, you're just plain sexy. That always helps.

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Move on. If he had interest, she would have given you the number then and there, I guarantee it. Still, you deserve props for trying. Now, pick another woman and try again.


I fail to understand why many guys are scared s***less when it comes to approaching a woman.


Yoshi did it and nothing bad happened to him. on the contrary, he learned to stop wasting his time and move on to better prospects. It beats hell sitting around and wondering where you stand with her--- going for the phone number is the only definite way of getting a measurement of her interest. I've done it all and have yet ot find a better way. Just take my word for it.


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[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited April 02, 2004).]

You're off to a good start...



acting cocky is good (suggests confidence, which is your best asset), but you went too far with it. Here's where you stop acting cocky-yet-funny and instead start acting like a prick:



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[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited April 02, 2004).]

like I said pagewizard, i make it obvious I'm joking about the lawyer part

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still, it seems like a bit much for a simple intro conversation.

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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

for that short of time, yeah, I suppose. It was just a quick example I put down.

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Er...number 1, who said she just simply didn't want to give it up at that point in time? I remember the look on her face quite clearly, and it was pained--I just wanna figure out why she shot me down first off, that's my main goal. Also, I'm not desperate for her, but I do really want her. She's a great person, and quite a bit more intelligent than your average "fish". I have my reasons, trust me when I say I really like her and am taking another shot. I'm not going to give up on something I want after one try, but if it becomes obvious she has no interest at all, I'll move on.

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When it comes to a matter of phone numbers with women, it's not so much time, but who they are interested in.

She didn't like you in that way. That's why.

That is desperate.

Waste of time you could be spending on something else

I thought it was. You're in denial. I'm not saying she hates you, she just likes you as a friend.

Remember: Crushes are horrible things.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited April 02, 2004).]

It's not a crush man--it's me going after a girl I really want. It's not painfully obvious she doesn't want me, just that she maybe she A) doesn't know me well enough, B) was having a bad day, or C) MAYBE doesn't like me. There are other possibilities too. I'm not saying she does like me, just that it's worth giving this all I have. She's a great person, and I personally would think it was worth a month or two of my life to pursue her in a civil way.


[EDIT]Besides, I don't have much else to do. There aren't many girls in my school worth pursuing.
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[This message has been edited by Dj Yoshi (edited April 02, 2004).]

oh...my...god. you don't realize that what you are doing is exactly what women don't like. They don't like clingy guys and you are being omg clingy.

I wish it wouldn't come to having to crush you like this, but you leave me no choice. Prepare yourself for a revelation.....
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THAT IS CLASS "A" WUSSY TALK

I'm just looking out for you. You'll learn eventually, I just hope it's sooner rather than later. If you want, I might be able to send you something that will help you realize how deep of a hole you keep digging for yourself.

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Then get something to do

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You probably don't get what I mean. I don't talk to her outside of Chem class, and to speak with her until I get to know her better, and then ask her for her number again. Something along those lines. I don't have anything better to use a month or two on, and it's not going to kill me to pursue her a bit. I'm not being clingy, trust me

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Ok, how about another situation...

You know a girl you really like, know her for a while, you talk a lot, go to a different school and see her occasionally.

However whenever you do, you end up making out and a lot of provokative stuff happens.

You have been with other women, this one seems really different.

You think of asking her out but don't have the nerve, and there are conditions about this.

You are ordered by law to visit your dad every other weekend who lives in another state, in fact 2 states away.
You don't have a job, missed sign ups for drivers ed so gunna be a while.
I don't want to make it seem like they are excuses but they are factors i am willing to move around for her.

You bring it up/she brings it up that you like her and shes says,
"I don't understand why you like me? whats so likeable about me?"(shes looking for compliments i figure)
And the famous "i think your too good for me."

Ok i think that's all, how do i ask this girl out lol, keep with the game or what? Please advice, and if you havn't figured out thats my situation.

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I will assume you meant "I will talk". Okay, if there were any chance at all of getting this girl to warm up to you, that will make it impossible. The only way you can possible get her is to give her the gift of missing you.

Start working out. Run, lift weights, do push ups and situps. In two months you'll notice a change. And it won't kill you, but it will be a totally unnecessary waste of two months of your life.

The first step in recovery is getting over your denial and admitting you have a problem.

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