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Karl Rove and Satan
2004-10-10, 11:22 AM #1
http://www.karlrove.com/images/trailers/BBTrailerIntTrailerLoRes.mov

The guy behind the guy behind the guy. Will do anything and has done everything to attain his goals... accuses rival politicans of pedophilia, homosexuality, etc... and actually predecides electoral outcome like this by ****ing up the uncritical mob, which is most of the American people. In his most recent work, making Bush (objectively an insanely incapable man) president and keeping him president, the campaign against Kerry and his warcredentials were of his doing - including letting Bush say he's against third-party namecalling like that.

If you vote Bush, you actually vote for Rove.

So please, just ****ing don't.
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2004-10-10, 11:31 AM #2
I agree that Karl Rove is evil, but I doubt you'll convince anyone here.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-10, 11:36 AM #3
A politcian is dirty and underhanded? Oh my god......INFORM THE PRESS!!!!!! I'm going live to the nation in 15 minutes!!!!!! I MUST SPREAD MY MESSAGE TO THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2004-10-10, 11:36 AM #4
I liked the part where you said the American people are uncritical sheep and then you uncritically accepted the opinions of the authors of this book as the final authority on Karl Rove's role
A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy.

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2004-10-10, 11:56 AM #5
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Originally posted by Sine Nomen
I liked the part where you said the American people are uncritical sheep and then you uncritically accepted the opinions of the authors of this book as the final authority on Karl Rove's role


Yeah man, glad you liked it. It was my favorite also, and I commend you on your reading comprehension. Your praise is the reason I write stuff like this.

One - If the dumbass in the White House is a reflection of the voting behavior of American citizens, then yes, a majority of them are uncritical sheep. It's not Americans only of course., since they're no smarted or dumber than the global population... It's just that, well, they're the ones who voted Bush.

They voted wrong

Two - what opinions man? Have you seen this guy's curriculum? Read up, and fast preferably.

Three - I'm really cool, and I ironically interpret the writings of others on internet chatboards! LOL!
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2004-10-10, 12:07 PM #6
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Originally posted by Tenshu
They voted wrong


Are you ****ing serious? There is no voting wrong. Just people who don't agree with your opinion.
Pissed Off?
2004-10-10, 12:38 PM #7
No dude, there is a thing like voting wrong. You think democracy is ultimately good and flawless, and you make the error thinking people know what's best for them. I'm a big supporter of democracy too, yet as a student of human thought processes, behavior and philosophy, I have reservations on it, and I am far too well aware to say things like There is no voting wrong. Just people who don't agree with your opinion. There is man. The tangible, breathing truth is alive today.

I can honestly say there's an objective way of determining peoples adequacy to a certain extent. Intelligence, political history, motivations, personality, charisma are only a fraction of the arguments pro adequacy, and Bush is lacking in all fields.

I also agree with dry gear, and I think posting about this of all places on massassi is maybe a way of sadomasochism. Hmmmmmmm... maybe on philosophical boards, since the argument of 'people not knowing what's best for them' might generate good replies.
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2004-10-10, 12:47 PM #8
You sir, are an idiot.
2004-10-10, 12:47 PM #9
Yes, because you being a genius, are totally qualified to determine if someone voted wrong or if someone is unfit for political office. No, predetermined bias doesn't play a part at all in your decision. Your statement isn't ridiculous, you're just of a higher thought than the rest of us. And those that think the way your statement was posted was offensive to the extreme are just whiners that cling to archaic ideas such as tact and politeness. All hail the mighty Tenshu!
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-10-10, 1:15 PM #10
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Originally posted by tofu
You sir, are an idiot.


edit - meant lightheartedly, not trying to personally insult you
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-10-10, 1:17 PM #11
Your elitist babbling doesn't change that fact that there is no such thing as voting wrong
Pissed Off?
2004-10-10, 1:21 PM #12
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Originally posted by Tenshu
No dude, there is a thing like voting wrong. You think democracy is ultimately good and flawless, and you make the error thinking people know what's best for them. I'm a big supporter of democracy too, yet as a student of human thought processes, behavior and philosophy, I have reservations on it, and I am far too well aware to say things like There is no voting wrong. Just people who don't agree with your opinion. There is man. The tangible, breathing truth is alive today.

I can honestly say there's an objective way of determining peoples adequacy to a certain extent. Intelligence, political history, motivations, personality, charisma are only a fraction of the arguments pro adequacy, and Bush is lacking in all fields.

I also agree with dry gear, and I think posting about this of all places on massassi is maybe a way of sadomasochism. Hmmmmmmm... maybe on philosophical boards, since the argument of 'people not knowing what's best for them' might generate good replies.


Your masterful manipulations of the English language have left me confused. Care to translate this into something an uncritical sheep like me can understand?
2004-10-10, 1:21 PM #13
I don't understand what the problem is. If Bush has an advisor that coordinates his campaign and such, so what? All politicians do, at least when they reach high levels.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-10-10, 1:35 PM #14
So what, now Bush is Karl Rove's hand pupet and not Cheney's? Right...
2004-10-10, 1:45 PM #15
Maybe it's a puppet with a puppet with a puppet kind of thing.
2004-10-10, 1:56 PM #16
You're a student of philosophy?

Wow!

That's a field that will take you places....

I don't mind philosophy, but if you make it your life study and act like you're a f'in genius because of it...then you sir are officially a dumb ***.
2004-10-10, 2:26 PM #17
I think that was a little too harsh, Demon. I think he's off base and should use abit more tact but he's obviously passionate and emotional in his beliefs.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-10-10, 2:47 PM #18
I love you, Tenshu. There is no sarcasm here. You are right, even if you are a little fanatical sometimes. That's what we all love about you.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2004-10-10, 2:54 PM #19
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Originally posted by Demon_Nightmare
You're a student of philosophy?

Wow!

That's a field that will take you places....

I don't mind philosophy, but if you make it your life study and act like you're a f'in genius because of it...then you sir are officially a dumb ***.


Agreed. You have a degree in philosophy... congradulations and what job does that get you again? Oh I forgot. BURGER KING! But I betcha they'll make you manager.
2004-10-10, 3:01 PM #20
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Originally posted by Thrawn42689
Maybe it's a puppet with a puppet with a puppet kind of thing.


That gave me a really good laugh for some bizzare reason.
2004-10-10, 3:30 PM #21
Crack is bad.
2004-10-10, 3:37 PM #22
I like how if a person disagrees with an admin everyone else gets to call him a dumb***, idiot, etc...
2004-10-10, 3:54 PM #23
I don't think the admin thing has anything to do with it
Pissed Off?
2004-10-10, 3:56 PM #24
Meh I suppose everyone wants to score browny points once and a while.
2004-10-10, 4:06 PM #25
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Originally posted by Mikus
I like how if a person disagrees with an admin everyone else gets to call him a dumb***, idiot, etc...


You know, I think it has more to do with the fact that he's insulting everyone who doesn't agree with his opinions.
2004-10-10, 4:11 PM #26
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Originally posted by JediHunter_X
You know, I think it has more to do with the fact that he's insulting everyone who doesn't agree with his opinions.


Show me one insult.

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Originally posted by tofu
You sir, are an idiot.


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Originally posted by Wookie06
Quote:
Originally posted by tofu
You sir, are an idiot.

edit - meant lightheartedly, not trying to personally insult you


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Originally posted by Demon_Nightmare
You're a student of philosophy?

Wow!

That's a field that will take you places....

I don't mind philosophy, but if you make it your life study and act like you're a f'in genius because of it...then you sir are officially a dumb ***.


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Originally posted by MechWarrior
Agreed. You have a degree in philosophy... congradulations and what job does that get you again? Oh I forgot. BURGER KING! But I betcha they'll make you manager.
2004-10-10, 4:34 PM #27
His entire argument is based on "I'm smarter than you because I said so" and that is pretty insulting
Pissed Off?
2004-10-10, 5:26 PM #28
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Originally posted by Avenger
His entire argument is based on "I'm smarter than you because I said so" and that is pretty insulting


You, sir, are an idiot.

More insulting than that?
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2004-10-10, 5:28 PM #29
Tenshu, I'll PM you with a link to another message board I go to, you can start a debate about whether people can vote wrong or not there, and they'll be much more open to it.

I wouldn't normally say this, but to back up Tenshu, I will also say that Bush is the wrong choice. Sometime's it is just a difference in opinion, but not this time. Bush is a truly bad president.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-10, 5:43 PM #30
..Oh..oh wait, truly you say? That changes everything - I was under the impression that all such choices were matters of opinion
A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy.

A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.

art
2004-10-10, 5:46 PM #31
The way I see it, yes.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-10, 6:10 PM #32
Everyone know it's the Illuminati that controls world politics. They always have, and Karl Rove isn't powerful enough to wrest control from them.
Steal my dreams and sell them back to me.....
2004-10-10, 6:49 PM #33
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Show me one insult.


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Originally posted by Tenshu
Will do anything and has done everything to attain his goals... accuses rival politicans of pedophilia, homosexuality, etc... and actually predecides electoral outcome like this by ****ing up the uncritical mob, which is most of the American people.


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If the dumbass in the White House is a reflection of the voting behavior of American citizens, then yes, a majority of them are uncritical sheep. It's not Americans only of course., since they're no smarted or dumber than the global population... It's just that, well, they're the ones who voted Bush.


Oh, my bad Mikus. I always forget that everyone except Tenshu are uncritical sheep. I'm just stupid like that.

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Tenshu, I'll PM you with a link to another message board I go to, you can start a debate about whether people can vote wrong or not there, and they'll be much more open to it.


Avenger is the only person in this thread so far to say anything about voting wrong. And while I happen to agree with him, that hasn't really been the focus of discussion.

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I wouldn't normally say this, but to back up Tenshu, I will also say that Bush is the wrong choice. Sometime's it is just a difference in opinion, but not this time. Bush is a truly bad president.


Again, nobody's even mentioned Bush, and there certainly hasn't been any mention of his ability as President.
Honestly, It's like you guys are reading a different thread.
2004-10-10, 6:59 PM #34
It's funny, because Rove doesn't ever lie. He just plants a seed of thought into the minds of the masses, and lets their imaginations take over. It's actually very interesting.
omnia mea mecum porto
2004-10-10, 7:20 PM #35
You want philosiphy?

There is no wrong or right, there is only the pursuit of hapiness.

Bush made the voters of the 2000 election happy. Now there is no way, at all, that you can call it the right or wrong decision. I've used your own logic of philosiphy against you. Now go away.

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2004-10-10, 7:22 PM #36
"How did this happen? How did George Bush become Presidential?"

He was VOTED into OFFICE. It's called a DEMOCRACY. In-fact, in saying that there's a wrong decision, you're completelly disagreeing with the idea of a DEMOCRACY.

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2004-10-10, 7:51 PM #37
kirbs: there is a philosophy about people voting the wrong way, mainly by majority tyranny, called (classical) Republicanism, mainly civic Republicanism. But it's obvious Tenshu is not arguing from that stand point. He's arguing from the stand point of a liberal that hates anything conservative or Republican and uses anything he can, whither it be truth, spun, or an outright lie, to justify this hatred. Many hard-core liberals do this and a lot of hard-core conservatives do vice versa.

And how is it some people have not yet found out that it is not what you say, but how you say it that matters? Is it really that hard of a principle to pick up on? Or do some people enjoy the negative attention?
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-10-10, 8:06 PM #38
It's threads like this that make me think about how everyone is stupid except for me.... sheep! all of you!

and sine, you dont have to be so aggressive and pissy all the time. sorry, but all the posts i've seen by you lately have seemed pissy and aggravated. you used to be a lot happier.....
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2004-10-10, 8:24 PM #39
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"How did this happen? How did George Bush become Presidential?"

He was VOTED into OFFICE. It's called a DEMOCRACY. In-fact, in saying that there's a wrong decision, you're completelly disagreeing with the idea of a DEMOCRACY.

Bush wasn't voted in, he was appointed.

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Avenger is the only person in this thread so far to say anything about voting wrong. And while I happen to agree with him, that hasn't really been the focus of discussion.

Well, there were the four or so people that immediately piled on Tenshu.

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and sine, you dont have to be so aggressive and pissy all the time. sorry, but all the posts i've seen by you lately have seemed pissy and aggravated. you used to be a lot happier.....

Thank God, I thought I was going crazy because I was the only one who noticed.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-10, 8:31 PM #40
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Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
"How did this happen? How did George Bush become Presidential?"

He was VOTED into OFFICE.


Uh.. no he wasn't. BAD example of democracy, bud.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
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