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I finally snapped at my mom
2004-11-02, 7:18 PM #41
But Bush says he was appointed by God! :p

(note this is just a joke, and if you dislike it, pm me, and I'll pretend to care)
D E A T H
2004-11-02, 7:20 PM #42
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Originally posted by dry gear the frog
:rolleyes:
He wasn't uninformed, he was obviously leaving it up to God! :D

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Originally posted by Thrawn42689
God supports Kerry!
I'll bet God flipped a coin too. ;)
May the mass times acceleration be with you.
2004-11-02, 7:20 PM #43
I will never vote. I admit that I don't care which way our presidentials go. Doesn't really matter, to me. But because of this, you won't see me taking any sides. I simply challenge people's opinion on their political views in hopes that I'll strengthen, or weaken their views, so that they KNOW what they want. I sure hope the people who ARE more informed than me, those who DO care about where America go can vote for that cause. I DON'T want people like me voting for whoever they see more signs of on the way to the poll. Or if heads or tails comes up. These aren't just uninformed, they're lacking in information period.

JediKirby
ᵗʰᵉᵇˢᵍ๒ᵍᵐᵃᶥᶫ∙ᶜᵒᵐ
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2004-11-02, 7:44 PM #44
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Yoshi: HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT!? Good god! The sheer unamerican of this is shocking. We can go and attack a couple countries, hang flags in our windows, write annoying patriotic country songs, yet when it comes to voting, we can flip a coin? No. That's the most unpatriotic thing ever. That's the most anti-american thing ever. That's almost as bad as being a terrorist. Yes, I'm making that profound of a statement: You're wasting a vote. NOT voting isn't wasting a vote, it's simply allowing those who actually care about our country decide who is president. Voting when you don't care is showing that you DON'T have any best interest for America.
O_o

Our country is founded on the principles of human rights and freedom. To impose on someone the "morally correct" way to use their rights flies in the face of that same freedom. So stow the pseudo-patriotic BS.
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-11-02, 7:46 PM #45
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Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
I will never vote. I admit that I don't care which way our presidentials go. Doesn't really matter, to me. But because of this, you won't see me taking any sides. I simply challenge people's opinion on their political views in hopes that I'll strengthen, or weaken their views, so that they KNOW what they want. I sure hope the people who ARE more informed than me, those who DO care about where America go can vote for that cause. I DON'T want people like me voting for whoever they see more signs of on the way to the poll. Or if heads or tails comes up. These aren't just uninformed, they're lacking in information period.

JediKirby
So you, as a person who just doesn't care, is ostricizing someone else who doesn't care but makes the effort anyway? Who the hell do you think you are?
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-11-02, 7:50 PM #46
lol d&d with presidential characters would be awesome.
Peace is a lie
There is only passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The Force shall set me free
2004-11-02, 7:55 PM #47
good for you thrawn. your mom certainly was off by not telling you where to vote. i would do the same thing of my mom saind that. did she tell you where to vote, or just stare blankly for the rest of the evening?
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
2004-11-02, 7:55 PM #48
Player 1: Lets see....I use Bush's Patriot Act +3 on your Kerry. It does 2d10 damage to all liberals.

Player 2: Ha! My Kerry blocked it with his Armor of Alignment Change

DM: Yeah, well, you were both taken out by McCain's Hammer of Moderation +10

Player 3: Yes! That doesn't work against my Lieberman.

DM: And if you weren't celebrating your survival you would have noticed the Alan Keyes that snuck up behind you and bludgeoned you to death with his Bible of Smiting.*





*that's a joke about Keyes' bible thumping, not Lieberman being a jew
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-11-02, 8:41 PM #49
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
I will never vote. I admit that I don't care which way our presidentials go. Doesn't really matter, to me. But because of this, you won't see me taking any sides. I simply challenge people's opinion on their political views in hopes that I'll strengthen, or weaken their views, so that they KNOW what they want. I sure hope the people who ARE more informed than me, those who DO care about where America go can vote for that cause. I DON'T want people like me voting for whoever they see more signs of on the way to the poll. Or if heads or tails comes up. These aren't just uninformed, they're lacking in information period.

JediKirby


If you don't bother voting, then what is the point of democracy? Let's just make it a dictatorship! I mean, hell, who needs choices, let's let some small group of people decide what is best for us!
2004-11-02, 8:42 PM #50
Cool Matty, are you being ironic?
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-11-02, 9:07 PM #51
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Originally posted by Wookie06
Actually, he's right. An uninformed voter voting on a whim is a dangerous thing.


I was informed, the thing is I hate both of them equally so it came down to literally flipping a coin.

Jereiaki, if you've seen some of the crap I've posted about my mom before on this site, you'll know she meant it.

Seriously, everyone, just shut up about this political battle. I chose who I wanted to chose, even if it was a stupid way of choosing.
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2004-11-02, 9:10 PM #52
Flipping a coin is the equivalent of letting the fates decide, in which case, not voting at all is probably the equivalent in effectiveness.
2004-11-02, 9:16 PM #53
Flipping a coin is the stupidest way to pick a candidate ever.

...everyone else was doing it.
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2004-11-02, 9:26 PM #54
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Originally posted by THRAWN
I was informed, the thing is I hate both of them equally so it came down to literally flipping a coin.

Jereiaki, if you've seen some of the crap I've posted about my mom before on this site, you'll know she meant it.

Seriously, everyone, just shut up about this political battle. I chose who I wanted to chose, even if it was a stupid way of choosing.


So your saying that you submit to the coin's will? Can you flip and see if you wanna send me a large sum of money?
You...................................
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2004-11-02, 10:07 PM #55
Who did the coin say for you to vote for? (or did you already mention that?)
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-11-02, 11:08 PM #56
LonelyDagger, if I have a large sum of money and can't decide to give it to either you or say some other random member, and there is no way I can split the sum, and I am stuck between you and that member, then yes, I would flip a coin. I simply could not choose who I wanted. I dislike Bush and I dislike Kerry. It really does not frigging matter in the end because Bush won my state even though I voted Kerry.
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2004-11-03, 12:07 AM #57
This country is about freedom of choice, and if some people wish for this country to be decided by coin tosses, that's their choice. Deal with it.

Kirby, there was something you could do about this. If you didn't agree with the way Thrawn voted, you could have gone out and voted for the opposite and basically cancelled out his vote. Instead you've vehemently refused to vote at all, and that was your choice. Now get off other peoples backs about their choice.
"Guns don't kill people, I kill people."
2004-11-03, 12:16 AM #58
Someone gouge my eyes, out, I agree with Wookie on something. Dear god, make it stop......
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2004-11-03, 1:26 AM #59
If you didn't like either of the two main candidates, why not use your vote for that third guy? (Sorry, I don't his name - I don't think the British media have even mentioned his existence, let alone his name)
2004-11-03, 2:56 AM #60
In England, it lands tails more.

F A C T.

;)
2004-11-03, 8:25 AM #61
Up the Monster Raving Loonies!!

Oh... waitaminute...
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2004-11-03, 10:15 AM #62
coins aren't random.

they know a hell of a lot more about questions with two answers than people do... ask any coin.

i'd live by a coin over a person any day.
2004-11-03, 10:24 AM #63
Well lets put it this way, I LIVE IN TEXAS.

Bush was the governor of Texas.

If Bush lost Texas, he deserves to of lost the election. I knew my vote wasn't going to mean jack crap if I voted Bush, Kerry, Nader or wrote Schwarzenegger on the ballot. I knew Bush would win this state with like 90% of the votes. In fact I only knew of TWO other people who voted for Kerry and about 15 who voted for Bush.
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2004-11-03, 12:00 PM #64
I personally dont think someone should base their vote on a flip of a coin. I think each indivdual should learn whatever they can about each candidate and make an educated vote to what they believe is the right decision. That is my opinion.

Unfortunately, many people don't care and don't want to take the time.

Also, voting is a right, not a priveledge, so even if you think someone is wrong, you can not take away their rights, cause if you try to take away their rights, then others will try to take away yours.

Everyone has their own choice of what they want to do with their rights. Even if it is a bad choice, it is their's and everyone should respect that.


Also, if you dont like either candidate, then don't just figure you shouldn't vote. You should figure which would be worse and which would be less worse. Cause not voting could potentially let the worse one win.
Twenty-Eight Days, Six Hours, Forty-Two Minutes, Twelve seconds...
2004-11-03, 2:04 PM #65
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Originally posted by Kieran Horn
Who did the coin say for you to vote for? (or did you already mention that?)

Mine said Lincoln. :confused:
2004-11-03, 2:43 PM #66
There were 7 individuals running for president, don't give me that crap that they are all bad. How about you get politically active instead of flipping a bloody coin.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-11-03, 3:09 PM #67
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Originally posted by SAJN_Master
There were 7 individuals running for president, don't give me that crap that they are all bad. How about you get politically active instead of flipping a bloody coin.


Only 2 of them are ever going to win--some people realize this, some don't. Those who do realize there are, in fact, only 2 candidates.
D E A T H
2004-11-03, 3:11 PM #68
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Only 2 of them are ever going to win--some people realize this, some don't. Those who do realize there are, in fact, only 2 candidates.


That is plain stupid. Voting for something you BELIVE IN is better then flipping a coin, even if you know that person cannot win. It's their right to run for president and if you agree with their stances, it's your right to be heard and vote for them.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-11-03, 3:12 PM #69
As for the whole people getting angry and upset because people are voting based on the flip of a coin, you should be this way for every voter in the united states. Chance is the name of the game in every election, and the candidates increase their odds of winning by hosting rallies and attending parties and trying to get their name and views out to the public. If they are lucky, they'll get the majority vote and win. But yes, chance is all it is, and flipping a coin is a valid way of making a choice. The candidates don't complete tasks that grant them the position, so all they have going for them is a 50/50 chance. Either they get it, or they don't.
Who made you God to say "I'll take your life from you"?
2004-11-03, 3:24 PM #70
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Originally posted by SAJN_Master
That is plain stupid. Voting for something you BELIVE IN is better then flipping a coin, even if you know that person cannot win. It's their right to run for president and if you agree with their stances, it's your right to be heard and vote for them.


So you believe in their right to run for president, and your right to vote for them, but not your right to flip a coin?
D E A T H
2004-11-03, 3:32 PM #71
Yes, one is making an informed decision and voting for who you belive in, the other is flipping a coin because you don't like the two main choices. If you don't like the candidates either A.) Research the other candidates, or B.)Don't vote.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-11-03, 3:37 PM #72
Just what we need--more rules on being able to vote. :rolleyes:

I'm just glad you're telling us how it should be done--I mean, a high school junior definitely knows how to vote better than those who actually CAN vote.
D E A T H
2004-11-03, 3:41 PM #73
This high school junior is more informed then half of America. Age has nothing to do with it. It has to do with how involved you are in politics. I am very involved, and proud of it.

How can you think it's right for a person to flip a coin and vote? Then you turn around and say voting for a person that has no chance of winning is wasting a vote? It's hipocracy. The right way to vote is to have an informed decision. Period. End of story.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-11-03, 3:43 PM #74
this is all based on the belief that coins are random.

i personally believe they have more insight than people.
2004-11-03, 3:46 PM #75
1) Who the **** says he wasn't informed? Jesus. I was informed and I still didn't like either candidate

2) I'm not saying he can't vote for Badnarik or Nader, just that people who really want to make a difference vote for Dem or Rep, because nobody's going Libertarian.

3) You so smart SAJN, please, teach the older people how to do everything! YOU GOOD ^___________^
D E A T H
2004-11-03, 3:56 PM #76
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1) Who the **** says he wasn't informed? Jesus. I was informed and I still didn't like either candidate

The fact that he flipped a coin instead of researching other candidates.

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2) I'm not saying he can't vote for Badnarik or Nader, just that people who really want to make a difference vote for Dem or Rep, because nobody's going Libertarian.

The people that want to make a difference vote based on what they belive not who they know will win or lose. This 2 party bullcrap needs to stop. It seems that having more money makes you a better candidate, that's wrong. Campaigning costs money, but for the people that want to run but can't afford for a LOT of campaigning, they should be allowed in the debates.

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3) You so smart SAJN, please, teach the older people how to do everything! YOU GOOD ^___________^

That was amazingly thoughtful, mature, and full of facts.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-11-03, 3:59 PM #77
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
This high school junior is more informed then half of America. Age has nothing to do with it. It has to do with how involved you are in politics. I am very involved, and proud of it.

Absolutly ridiculous!
2004-11-03, 4:02 PM #78
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Absolutly ridiculous!

...Care to explain how? Most people I talk to aren't even involved in politics, they watch a debate or two, or maybe read the paper every once and a while, and make totally uninformed decisions. I on the other hand have been following this election for a while, researching facts etc. I don't see how it's ridiculous.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-11-03, 4:04 PM #79
1) I did plenty of research, and can tell you about a month ago I would have flipped a coin. But I'm a Junior, I should know better than all the experienced voters out there!

2) 2 party is the only way that works. After that it gets confusing and very hard to figure out which party to choose. I could go further into the workings of it all...but you really don't require that much effort

3) No, it was a direct insult to you and your ignorant belief you're better than anyone who can vote and choose to do it in their own unique way simply because YOU have an opinion.
D E A T H
2004-11-03, 4:17 PM #80
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Originally posted by SAJN_Master
Yes, one is making an informed decision and voting for who you belive in, the other is flipping a coin because you don't like the two main choices. If you don't like the candidates either A.) Research the other candidates, or B.)Don't vote.


I ALREADY EXPLAINED: I DID NOT LIKE EITHER CANDIDATE, NEITHER I THINK DESERVES TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BUT THAT IS JUST HOW I FEEL. I SIMPLY SAID OH FRIGGING WELL, BUSH IS GOING TO WIN THIS STATE ANYWAY SO I WILL JUST FLIP A COIN AND SEE WHO I WILL VOTE FOR. IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET PISSED AT ME, THEN GO GET PISSED AT ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO VOTE ONLY REPUBLICAN OR ONLY DEMOCRAT REGARDLESS OF WHO IS RUNNING BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BLIND OR TOO STUPID (OR BOTH) TO SEE THE PERSON IS AN IDIOT AND DOES NOT DESERVE THE VOTE. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING THIS CRAP FROM YOU PEOPLE AS I HAVE EXPLAINED IT ALREADY LIKE THREE TIMES ON THIS THREAD. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND GET OVER IT AND SHUT UP.

Please just close this thread, I am sick of this crap.
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
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