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Final Fantasy Games Discussion
2004-11-26, 7:15 AM #41
I haven't played any of the Final Fantasy games in quite a while. I had played most of the games up until FFIX, but I've played only a part of FFX. Just hasn't really been holding my attention. It's a shame, too. I really enjoyed them.

A lot of the older FF games have been rereleased on either on GBA or PSone.
2004-11-26, 7:30 AM #42
X DEATH PWNS ALL BUT SEPHIROTH!!11!1
nope.
2004-11-26, 8:13 AM #43
Offering + Genji glove + Quick + Atma Weapon = 16x attacks in one turn and owns j00!
2004-11-26, 8:25 AM #44
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Originally posted by Shintock
Offering + Genji glove + Quick + Atma Weapon = 16x attacks in one turn and owns j00!


<3
D E A T H
2004-11-26, 10:34 AM #45
Quote:
Originally posted by Martyn
The trick is to either refine the right playing card that gives you a bunch of heros or holy wars (one player invincible or your your whole party respectively) and always keep at least one character invulnerable.

In fact, that's the only way to get past Griever's attack before that!

Or be really cheeky, and don't teach Rinoa's dog ANY tricks until the last one is available (something with moon in iirc), because that agains casts invulnerability - can't remember if it's just on rinoa or the whole party, but anyway - when she does her limit break, you'll have a 50% of becoming invulnerable. Every time.


Wa? The final boss in FF8 was a piece of cake, I didn't even get to use Squall because my first group of 3 (who were also my weakest characters) finished her off quickly. Even Omega Weapon was easy compared to some of the "super bosses" in earlier FF games. Just use Aura and endlessly limit break and you'll win 90% of fights without thinking about it. You didn't even need holy wars or hero to beat Omega Weapon as I found out, I accidentally made Irvine use the defend ability and he survived Terra Break without taking any damage whatsoever.
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2004-11-26, 11:09 AM #46
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Originally posted by Shintock
Offering + Genji glove + Quick + Atma Weapon = 16x attacks in one turn and owns j00!

Yes, potentially up to 159,984 damage! Of course, by the time you can get the second Atma Weapon (despite it supposedly being unique), you're at the last boss... "Sleep" has what... 55k HP, and Kefka (last confrontation) has a mere 63k. My perfect ending party was typically Terra, Locke, Celes, and either Sabin or Cyan; the last one would have the offering, and two weapons, either a pair of Tiger Fangs, or the Sky Render+a Strato. 'twas sweet nonetheless; who cares about limit breaking?
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2004-11-26, 11:14 AM #47
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Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ
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I never used Defend - never crossed my mind! Omega weapon was a piece off piss once you had Squall's bigbad limit break. Only took a couple of hits to do - though I didn't use Aura - mainly because it seemed that you never got the 'good' limit breaks as often: I'd let them get beat up and wing it!
2004-11-26, 11:44 AM #48
I never had any troubles getting Lionheart almost everytime. Quick point though, that luck stat affects more than just hit percentages ;)
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2004-11-26, 12:57 PM #49
Lionheart is the ****!:D
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2004-11-26, 4:11 PM #50
FF8's storyline was really fun. Cliche, but fun.
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2004-11-26, 4:27 PM #51
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Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
FF8's storyline was really fun. Cliche, but fun.


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2004-11-26, 8:10 PM #52
Dj Yoshi and Shintock... I love you. FF6 is my favorite (console) game of all time. Ah, it brings back so many great memories. While FF7 was good, it doesn't hold any ground to the majesty of FF6.

Rumors are saying FF6 is coming to Gameboy DS... if it does, I will definitely buy a DS. It's that good, folks.
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2004-11-26, 10:03 PM #53
2nd level KotR (knights of the round) + the matria that makes attached magic more powerful will kill anything execpt ruby and emerald weapon within two rounds.

in fact, jenova synthesis and bizzaro seemed pathetic.

the only reason I took so long to finish safer off was because I didn't manage to get mime to successfuly mime KotR. Not that it was a bad thing as I got to experience the full power of him and see supernova.

also, one winged angel works at any point of the fight no matter what is happening.
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2004-11-26, 10:04 PM #54
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Originally posted by Whelly
Dj Yoshi and Shintock... I love you. FF6 is my favorite (console) game of all time. Ah, it brings back so many great memories. While FF7 was good, it doesn't hold any ground to the majesty of FF6.

Rumors are saying FF6 is coming to Gameboy DS... if it does, I will definitely buy a DS. It's that good, folks.


dude, it was ported to the PSone back in 2002 or whenever.

It had FMVs added and also had a demo disc for FFX.
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2004-11-26, 10:07 PM #55
Quote:
Originally posted by Whelly
Dj Yoshi and Shintock... I love you. FF6 is my favorite (console) game of all time. Ah, it brings back so many great memories. While FF7 was good, it doesn't hold any ground to the majesty of FF6.

Rumors are saying FF6 is coming to Gameboy DS... if it does, I will definitely buy a DS. It's that good, folks.


Unfortunately, the rumors are false. They stem on the release of FF3j for the DS (the one with the cabbage kids and whatnot). People mistook this for FF3/6j
D E A T H
2004-11-26, 10:08 PM #56
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Originally posted by alpha1
dude, it was ported to the PSone back in 2002 or whenever.

It had FMVs added and also had a demo disc for FFX.


Yeah...most people know this. And it was ported in like 2000.

But the PSOne isn't portable.
D E A T H
2004-11-26, 10:09 PM #57
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Originally posted by drizzt2k2
Barrett, Cid, Vincent, Cloud, Vivi they are all so great. Who are you guys favorite characters?


yes but which cid.

there is pretty much one in each game.
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2004-11-27, 12:44 AM #58
Will someone please explain to me what's so great about these games? Having only bought a console about a year ago, I've been sheltered. I cannot fathom the appeal of characters with big spiky hair wearing really REALLY weird clothes running around doing SOMETHING...the game articles and reviews reveal suprisingly little about the actual nature of the game. All I know is that it's an RPG of some sort...with monsters, yes?
2004-11-27, 7:32 AM #59
For FF7:

Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter + Counter

=

Ownage x Number of slots you have.
2004-11-27, 7:51 AM #60
FF6 was without a doubt my second faveourite rpg of all-time.
My most faveourite I can't remember the name of and never made it to English speaking countries...
It was on snes, had sidescrolling type combat despite being an rpg, and it worked great.
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2004-11-27, 8:46 AM #61
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Originally posted by Thrawn42689
Will someone please explain to me what's so great about these games? Having only bought a console about a year ago, I've been sheltered. I cannot fathom the appeal of characters with big spiky hair wearing really REALLY weird clothes running around doing SOMETHING...the game articles and reviews reveal suprisingly little about the actual nature of the game. All I know is that it's an RPG of some sort...with monsters, yes?


Do you play western RPGs on the PC a lot? The differences between Final Fantasy and PC RPGs (Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, etc.) have do to largely with the combat (upon meeting an enemy, the game zooms in on the action and the combat is turnbased in nature, with some realtime elements). Other than that, the stories of these games (while not that well written), with plenty of plot twists, interesting locations and amazing cutscenes build the backbone of what makes them so much fun.

Battle (FF7)
[http://www.rpgunited.com/picture/default/finalf702.jpg]

Ingame (FF7)
[http://5star.freeserve.com/Games/screenshots/finalf7.jpg]

Cutscene (FF8)
[http://www.gamecritics.com/feature/artgallery/ff8/art07.jpg]
2004-11-27, 9:46 AM #62
What about Kingdom Hearts? One of the best Japanese RPGs to date, let alone RPGs period. Plus, I consider it a FF game if any game could be considered one.

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2004-11-27, 11:38 AM #63
Kingdom Hearts is a RPG, but it's more of an action RPG like Zelda. Of course it's still a great game...I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel.

[http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/513/513191/kingdom-hearts-ii-200405100950387.jpg]
Neo Mickey?

[http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/551/551773/kingdom-hearts-ii-20040927032550570.jpg]
Recognize the character on the left?

Personally I like all of the FF I played so far (I still have played the first 3). Although truthfully, I got a bit bored with FFV towards te end. Then again, I was leveling up too hard and it must have gotten mundane (that was the only FF where I didn't level up to 99).
2004-11-27, 12:28 PM #64
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Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
What about Kingdom Hearts? One of the best Japanese RPGs to date, let alone RPGs period. Plus, I consider it a FF game if any game could be considered one.

JediKirby


Kingdom Hearts to me was crap.

FF6 or Fight!
D E A T H
2004-11-27, 1:05 PM #65
Wait, wait, wait crap? Did you actually play it, or simply see a screenshot and dismiss it as crap? I did that for the longest time, until someone borrowed me the disk along with several others. Now I own a copy of it myself, and replay it, play it, and rereplay it daily.

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2004-11-27, 1:15 PM #66
I played it. I hated it. I quit and gave it back to my friend so he could sell it. I tried to like it too--I went into it thinking it was going to be awesome. But no...crap.
D E A T H
2004-11-27, 2:46 PM #67
I've got 4-10 on PS and PS2, and 11 on PC.

IV never interested me as much as the others.
V was fun but I could never get past the fire boat place.
VI was uber but I was alwas hideously underpowered and underleveled.
VII was uber and I completed it. Good times.
VIII was good, even if it seemed more static than the others.
IX was OK - not the best, but not the worst.
X would have been better if Tidus was less angsty and whiny.
XI is fun.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2004-11-27, 2:58 PM #68
I always found the random battles to be annoying, until I got the bangles that eliminated random enemy encounters.. But nevertheless, I used the random battles to my advantage.

I just used to play an entire day's full of fights. Nothing but running around in circles, levelling up my character... That way I would become unstoppable. Especially when those annoying "long cutscene you cant skip through" *boss fight* :::: DIE :::: "Repeat several times", events came along.

Victory was mine.
2004-11-27, 3:30 PM #69
In FF VI, I never really did focus on actually levelling (in fact, I now try to shoot for the lowest average character level possible) However, I jsut simply had to make sure my characters used the espers to learn the spells I wanted them to have, and that entailed a lot of random battles. My first time through, Terra was what... level 78 when the party fought AtmaWeapon. (last boss of the "World of Balance" section) Locke came close at 64, and everyone else was actually substantially behind that. To say the least, even the most challenging of the bosses were pathetic. (Atma, who is supposed to be among the touhgest, went down before it got to attack)

To say the least, I liked the Esper magic system because it made leveling up so addictive. Though it's a bit annoying early in the game when 100 random battles are needed for one character to learn Cure2, it's still a blast as you're given your choice on how capable each party member is; their "class" has little to do with their magical capabilities, so I could have Cyan (more or less, the samurai character) make heavy use of "Pearl" (aka Holy or White)
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2004-11-27, 4:38 PM #70
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Originally posted by - Tony -
VI was uber but I was alwas hideously underpowered and underleveled.


Dude, there is no such thing as underleveled in FF6. Until you get good espers with good level up bonuses, a level gained is a level wasted.

Damage inflicted is always, no matter what game you're playing, more important than your current HP status. Since leveling in FF6 only raises your HP and MP levels and doesn't raise your attack, speed or magic levels, leveling without espers is useless.

Battles in FF6 is not dependent upon what level you're at, it's dependent upon how much damage you will inflict every turn. Proper preparation (what espers, weapons, armor and relics to equip etc.) ensues that.
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2004-11-27, 9:02 PM #71
This may belong in the music forum, but this is a little something I've been working on.

Terra's Theme.

Most likely it's badly EQ-ed, because I've been recording this with my crappy headphones on and I don't know what it sounds like coming out of decent speakers. There are people sleeping here right now so I can't check either. I also haven't played my guitar since I moved to Montreal, today was the first time.

Later on in the track, I've got some double-bass drum **** going on, standard metal fare. :D
2004-11-28, 12:49 AM #72
Final Fantasy is one of those game series that make you go
"Wow, I really enjoy this series"

I myself, have played around...four of them.

Chrono trigger.
Final Fantasy VII.
Final Fantasy IX.
Final Fantasy IV.

However what really makes these games stand out, is the character development.

Just take a look at Vivi, or Marle, or Vincent, or Cecil, and then you see why these games are hailed as one of the best games of all.

That, and coupled with the story, Is the perfect ingredient for a good game.

*SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER!!!!*

Final Fantasy games are the only games that have made me shiver. Ever.

The first time is when Aeris dies, It was...unexpected.
I thought "wow, Cloud found her, everything is going to be ok" but then Sephiroth just comes down, and all hell breaks lose.

The next, Is when later in the game, at the northern continent or whatever, is when Cloud hands the Black Materia to Sephiroth and he summons the weapons.
That is perhaps the second worst shake I ever received.

The next one goes for first.

WAAAY later in the game in FFIX, Dagger is queen, and all is well for the time being.

But, later during a cutscene, Kuja shows up. Kuja is easily the number one cracked up villian of all time. Not the worst, the worst is yet to be found.

Anyways, Kuja summons Bahamut. I don't think you realise this, he summons, freaking Bahamut.
It then proceeds to lay waste to Alexandria. That is the number one shake of all time.

*SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER*
2004-11-28, 12:01 PM #73
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Originally posted by Simbachu
Dude, there is no such thing as underleveled in FF6. Until you get good espers with good level up bonuses, a level gained is a level wasted.

Damage inflicted is always, no matter what game you're playing, more important than your current HP status. Since leveling in FF6 only raises your HP and MP levels and doesn't raise your attack, speed or magic levels, leveling without espers is useless.

Battles in FF6 is not dependent upon what level you're at, it's dependent upon how much damage you will inflict every turn. Proper preparation (what espers, weapons, armor and relics to equip etc.) ensues that.

It's also 'cause I'm a partial purist and I wanted to keep people in roles.
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2004-11-28, 12:44 PM #74
FF Tactics is the only game I own from this series. Unfortunately, I had it on PlayStation, but my PS broke less than halfway through the game.:( I was addicted, though! Definitely a good game.
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2004-11-28, 5:18 PM #75
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Originally posted by Darth_Revan
FF Tactics is the only game I own from this series. Unfortunately, I had it on PlayStation, but my PS broke less than halfway through the game.:( I was addicted, though! Definitely a good game.


Ahh another Tactics fan. The battle system was quite addicting wasn't it? The story was also unique as it involved alot of politics and religion.
2004-11-28, 6:40 PM #76
FFTactics was great. The story was really complex (and therefore I was lost quite quickly). Unfortunately, I never beat it, and now my PS doesn't work and I don't want to use an emulator because it won't play the sound in cutscenes... oh well.
2004-11-28, 6:45 PM #77
Biggest shake I got from an FF game? I don't know... Whenever Kefka laughed then I knew something was up...

Kefka is *the* most screwed up person. Ever.




FFTactics is by far the best FF game. Ever. I just wish they would make one for the PS2 with all shiney 3D graphics and stuff. BUT NOT USING THAT CRAPPY ABILITY SYSTEM FROM FFTA. I want my job point system damnit!
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2004-11-28, 7:43 PM #78
FF6 was the most badical story ever. Best character development, best situations, best characters, best world, best story. I loved the fighting system. It still reigns as my #1 favorite game, ever.
D E A T H
2004-11-29, 2:03 PM #79
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Originally posted by Vincent Valentine
FFTactics was great. The story was really complex (and therefore I was lost quite quickly). Unfortunately, I never beat it, and now my PS doesn't work and I don't want to use an emulator because it won't play the sound in cutscenes... oh well.


You can't just give up on emulation this quickly.

I highly recommend using ePSXe 1.5.2. (as opposed to the newest version)
http://www.epsxe.com/download.php

For a graphics plugin, try Pete's OpenGl Plugin
http://www.pbernert.com/gpupeteogl206.zip

For sound especially, try any of the following:
http://www.pbernert.com/spupeopsdsound109.zip (P.E.Op.S. DSound PSX SPU)
or
http://www.zophar.net/utilities/psplugins.html
(Eternal SPU)

Also make sure that under Config -> Sound the top three boxes are checked.

Do not run the game from the CD unless absolutely necessary. If you *MUST*, use this:
cdrXeven or CDR Mooby2 from http://www.zophar.net/utilities/psplugins.html

Otherwise, it's a better idea to create an .iso from the CD with a program like Isobuster
http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster/
2004-11-29, 2:13 PM #80
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Originally posted by Shintock
Kefka > Sephiroth


DOES NOT COMPUTE.
ONE OF THESE IS A QUEER, ONE OF THEM IS SEPHIROTH. GUESS WHICH ONE IS WHICH.

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