Would be a pointless discussion.
However, I would like to know which you guys want more, the Ninendo DS, or hte Sony PSP.

For those who are uninformed:
The DS is a dual-screen portable system that is much better than the Gameboy Advance. It has a touch-screen, it has full playable 3d videos capability for both screens, and it's already released.

The Sony PSP is essentially a handheld playstation 1, and it was recently released in Japan. It has much better graphical hardwar than the DS, and it can play more advanced games seemingly. However, it does not have two screens, it does not have a touch screen, and it will not be released in the US for some time.

Now...which one do you want?

both

If I could only choose one, the PSP hands down. But I do like the DS.

PSP...omg...has anyone read IGN's review on it?

PSP == crap battery life == pointless. I can go buy a laptop and do the same thing, with a bigger screen, wider game selection, and longer battery life.

Can you put a laptop in your pocket..?

Read: PlaystationPORTABLE

No you can't. You don't even KNOW the battery life. Ign.com has a thing on it though. The battery life is really very good. But of course, ignorance is cool and Nintendo is life, right?

I want a DS

DS cause the PSP has crap games and the battery life is 3 hours

"4-6 hours" is not really very good at all.

The battery life is NOT 3 hours. It's 5-6 for games, 4-6 for movies.

And who the hell uses a handheld for more than 4 or 5 hours at a time? If you do you're probably stationary and can plug it in. Seriously.

a lot of people do, and still thats pretty bad

before someoen says long drive... car cable

ok then, how about an airplane (which ironically, i'm going to be on in a week for the first time, yay!)

If you're using a handheld for more than 4-6 hours straight, you have some serious problems on your hands (no pun intended).

Very rarely do Airplane flights last that long, and there's usually layovers when you can charge it. Sometimes the planes even have some kind of adapter to charge it on there (sometimes)

I plan on getting both PS3 and X-Box Next. :p

it's all about the N64Portable...

oh yeah forgot to mention that i am also getting the DS cause i is backwards compatible with the GBA, so that means that it already has a crap load of games avaliable to it.

Don't ever assume I don't know the facts Yoshi, it makes you look stupid. I know the facts, and I say that a laptop would be a better investment. 4-5 hour battery life on many laptops, with better games, more features... hell, everything.

Reasons PSP sucks:
1. Battery
2. UMD drive. (Such potential, with CDs or Minidiscs, now ruined.)
3. Memory sticks. If you want to do anything useful with the thing, you need one, and memory sticks cost $$
4. It's pricey by itself.
5. Bound to have a small game library. There's nothing to fall back on, like the gameboy has. I'll leave this one to see how it does, but I betcha it doesn't do as well as gameboy in terms of features. (In other words, it'll die like the dreamcast did when PS2 came around.)
6. Loading times. Yeah, read up on that on IGN if you haven't. Up to 20 seconds for some games.
7. Blurring. Not a good thing for games. What the hell were they thinking?

Too bad their next good game isn't coming out until a month before the PSP launches. But hey, Mario 64x4 is good enough to last 3 months right? :\

Well. I've come up with a grand solution, so long as I don't mind having a poor meal.

I'm going to wait for about 6 months before I buy either, and in the meantime, McDonalds is giving away mini sega sonic the hedgehog videogames in it's happy meals. Enough entertainment to last me for hours and it's free!

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so what if it's technology from like 20 years ago?

Oh boy CM, you're screwed in the head.

1) I already said the battery was fine, for any NORMAL person. If you want to be able to play for a day straight, get a DS, otherwise, get a PSP.
2) You can't really argue this point against the DS. Especially since the PSP has USB and Memory Stick support
3) It comes with a 12mb memory stick. Not to mention, the memory sticks really aren't that pricey, and they can be used for a lot more than just saving games (videos, music)
4) A whole 50 bucks more than the DS. Wow. So pricey.
5) It's got a great launch, like 10 titles and half of them are at least decent. Can't say nearly the same for the DS (though it does have GBA backwards compatible support, everyone and their brother has a GBA by now :\)
6) Loading times on SOME games. One game at one point loads for 20 seconds. Not every game. And this is probably loading a fairly expansive area.
7) Where do you get blurring from? Obviously you DIDN'T read IGN's thing because they said nothing about it (though they did say some games had problems, it was purely software) and they even lauded the screen as the MOST beautiful thing about the PSP (which makes me happy in the pants)

For playing music? Of course it is. :p But it costs more, and does less. So why buy an iPod if you can just buy a few memory sticks and be satisfied with a somewhat less-than-awesome media player that also plays movies and games.

I'm a Sony fanboy, so the PSP wins. :p

Unless they have wireless MP Goldeneye on the DS.

1) Most people aren't going to get a PSP for music or movies. Most are going to get it for the games. And since they are going to get it for games, they are going to be playing for hours on end.

2) The UMD drive, like matty said, had a lot of pottential. But whos gonna pay for their movies all over again just so they can play it on their PSP. And since it can usually only play 1 movie at a time before recharging (2 if its really really short movies) the whole "ir can play movies" concept is crap

3) 12mb memory sticks hold like 5 songs right? cause songs are how big these days? And movies? yeah right

4) Not everyone is rich. For some people it can take monthes to get 50 bucks whether you realise that or not

5) You can't say something is good without actually playing it! haven't already established this earlier? A lot of games look promising, but then end up to be utter ****. Don't comment on games that you haven't tried yet. And anyways, reviews are opinions. I've liked games that reviewers hated, and i've hated games that reviewers love.

6) If the PSP has such powerful software, shouldn't the load times be nil for every game?

7) i have no clue what blurring you guys are talking about so...

Online, maybe, wireless, yes.

They're going to have trouble buying games for their DS'es then.

Probably neither, at this point. If I do get one, however, it'll probably be the DS, because it'll most likely have the games I'll enjoy most, as well as compatability with most Gameboy games. Plus, the multiplayer Metroid game rocks.

1 and 2) no they aren't, but it's an available option, and the you can watch an average of TWO movies, not ONE, before recharge. The battery life is 4-5 hours on movies, remember. Think about it. Average movie is 1 and a half to 2 hours... And about playing games--okay? I've never played games for more than 6 hours straight on a portable unless I was AT HOME (where things are rechargable) with nothing to do.

3) Those memory sticks have been around for ages, the 12 mb mem stick is just for saving games and whatnot. You can buy up to gig sticks, iirc, and at least 512 MB sticks.

4) 50 dollars is not that much. It's what's earned from an average day's worth of work. Seriously.

5) *smacks forehead on the ground* Jesus man. C'mon think, I meant that they were quality titles that so far every reviewer had liked. The only title any reviewer's liked for the DS is Mario 64x4, the others all got mediocre or crappy scores. (note, do NOT miscontrue this and say I said that all PSP release games were good)

Not to mention, some of the games released are just re-releases (armored core, ridge racer) and I've played those. Quite good.

6) Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Really, do you? Because that right there...wow...

Load times are a combination of RAM size, RAM speed, and disc reading speed, among a few other things (cpu power etc). Obviously, it's also a lot slower to load from a disc than straight from RAM of any sort (Nintendo DS uses Flash RAM) but discs can hold MORE.

Also--don't forget you can load movies onto memory sticks and play straight from there. Same with music. And if you don't have a memory stick reader, it has USB support built in for straight hookage up. Seriously, no point here has made me think that the PSP is flawed all that majorly, whereas the DS seems to have worse graphics, the battery only lasts an average of 2 hours longer (battery only lasts about 8-8.5 hours), can only play games (that's just my stake in it--why not have a multipurpose handheld?) and has only 1 good game, with a few decent ones SUPPOSEDLY coming out in february. While I do LIKE the DS as a handheld, I see no reason that it is better than or should be held over the PSP. It can be innovative as hell, but with only having one game out that's worth buying, what does it matter?

Just so people know, I have no problem with this as Nintendo and Sony are marketing extremely different genres and styles of games. I'm not bashing the DS, just making sure no one bashes the PSP for stupid (read: ignorant) reasons.

Also--it's only compatible with GBA games, no GBC or GBoriginal games. And I guess Hunters is an acquired taste--it seemed like it should be fun, but the controls didn't have enough customization and were too....clunky. Could just be me.

Firstly, the DS is RATED 6-10 hours of battery life (that is the lithium battery rating). On average, it only lasts 8 to 8 and a half hours. So 2 1/2 more hours of battery life is pretty minimal, because if you are playing for an extended period of time, you are gonna have to charge either way. Not many people will say "Hmmm...I'm not gonna play for more than 8:00 hours, but I will play more than 6:00, so DS it is". When it comes to extended playing, teh battery is hardly an argument in this case.

Secondly, loading times. OH MY GOD I DONT HAVE 20 SECONDS TO SPARE OH MY GOD!!! Seriously, if you read IGN, they said for one or two games the loading times were 20 seconds, otherwise they were great. I guess some people don't have that great of reading comprehension when they read "Vampire Chronicle, on the other hand, brings back load times to the PlayStation days, with a wait of nineteen seconds prior to your first fight and no fast character select option.". Last I heard, "Vampire Chronicles" does not represent every single PSP game that will come out ever.

Thirdly, I think the UMD has the same type of situation as the touch screen. Seriously, why do I want to use my finger to make myself turn or look up. And what if you forget the stylus? Let me let go of the controller and use my fingers to look up exactly where I want, but by that time, I'm shot. (I've played some of the DS games, and I absoltuely hate having to use a freaken stylus to look around). The touchscreen has a helluav lot of potential, just like the UMD does, but as of right now, I think the touch screen really really really sucks.

Fourthly, the "blurring". As a matter of fact, they said they expereinced it only in one or two games. And that it is completely software related (as Yoshi pointed out earlier).

Fifthly, you eralyl think the launch games are "crap?". As of right now, it is almost safe to say that the launch games for PSP kick DS's ***, and that is without even playing the PSP games. If all of the PSP launch games suck, I give you all permission to proceed in the navel quartering of myself.

Sixthly, this is pure opinion, but I think dual-screens as of right now, are totally useless. I do not need a second screen to show me a map. If I take the time to look at the map, I can take the time by pression select to see it, instead of even risking the chance of you being shot or something of that sort.

I really need a second screen totally devoted to showing me a wheel, where i coudl easily just steer with *gasp* the D-Pad? *gasp*

And just for comparison, here's PSP (which uses Analog Stick, btw *cough*)



So yeah...as of right now, I'm taking the PSP. Until the DS actually starts getting some good games, and refines their control system making gaems easier to control and not have to use the freaken stylus, then I won't erally consider it an option.

Feel free to flame me all you want :).

They could've at least drawn some stuff behind the wheel on the first shot.

PSP wins.

i was being stupid on point 6, cause i wasn't thinking and just put some **** down

about the money: to you 50 bucks may not be a lot. But to someone like me, its quite a lot. One of the reasons i am getting a DS (not now, no money) is that it is cheaper. Also i like the fact the nintendo is trying something new, and based on the reactions of publishers, am confident that there are going to be some very creative games coming out for the DS. I have no problems with the PSP. If i get enough money i will probably buy it after i get a DS. However, the PSP just is improving the graphics on the handheld and not really introducing something new to gaming world. Also, i hate the Metal Gear ac!d is a card game hehehe

I laud Nintendo for doing something new, also, and if they ever get it being useful, it'll be pretty damn cool, but until then, it's pointless. And 50 dollars isn't that much. I'm 16, I don't have a job. I can still get the 50 bucks. It just takes a couple days worth of dedication or odd jobbing or work. Heck, it comes out in march--mow some lawns.

And I wouldn't say it's not expanding the handheld world--merging movies, music, games, and wireless internet into a highly functional, highly portable handheld? Not to mention an analog stick

But yeah, Metal Gear Ac!d doesn't excite me as much as it should. Which sucks.

your 16? wow i thought you were like 22. heh guess i was wrong

btw, everyone keeps talking about an analog stick on the PSP, but i've never actually seen it. Where is it?

http://www.lik-sang.com/psp.html

It should be made obvious in those pics. It looks like a small speaker.

I was about to support the DS just because Yoshi was for the PSP... I need to get a grip.

SONY 4 LYFE

I must say, just from photos, I like the PSP better. That screen is ridiculously big and awesome.

As of this point, it's the PSP for me. The launch games for the DS as of this point doesn't really interest me (Mario is the only one getting good review scores, but you still can't deny that it's a port of the N64 game). But then again, I'm not sure how well the line up will be for PSP either. I do notice that the PSP's current preview list has games that actually go teen and up though. By the way, I also hope people realize that "Metroid Hunter" does not play like a tradional (good) Metroid game. Instead, it's more like Unreal Tournament.
Oh and about the PSP able to play movies, I read an interesting article about some who's expressing concern that people who be playing porn on their PSP......