Well, I've played the demo of Hunters that comes with the DS, and assuming it's representative of the finished product, I still think it's cool.

mmm the PSP screen

None.

I'm not all that into consoles, or their portable counterparts. Hell, it wasn't until last month that I finally bought my first. I like my Xbox. But I like my computer better. And when I need something portable, I take my Palm Pilot. Tetris and Breakout entertain me just fine. Plus it'll do a whole lot more than the DS or PSP.

More than a DS? Yes, probably.

More than a PSP? We'll actually have to wait and see what kind of things Sony comes up with it. With USB connectivity and memory sticks...you never know.

The PS2 has USB connectivity and they never really exploited it. :\

Quite true, unfortunately. But the PSP already has a use for it--if you don't have a card reader/writer, you can use it to put stuff on your memory cards.

I don't like Nintendo, but I dislike Playstation even more. I saw some kid with a DS a while ago, so I'd go with that.

Allowing keyboard/mouse config for all games would have been leet.

I doubt it'd have near the same amount of functionality as a Palm Pilot.

It just depends on what Sony does with it.

Bad battery life my ***

For those who don't want to read that thread,

6 Hours and 3 Minutes

Oh yeah, I'm sure the battery only lasts 3 hours

Just playing the Devil's Advocate here:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/12/12/news_6114909.html

Yeah, and IGN already said their battery lasted 3 hours. After getting it back on factory charge. Many other people/sites have already said that their batteries have lasted between....guess it...five and six hours.

Like was said on the site--Ridge Racer gave 6 hours.

Although I'm also backing the PSP for the moment, I'll have to jump onto Nintendo's side for a second and mention that there's an aftermarket mod that allows a DS or even a GBA to play movies. The quality is less than stellar, but it's still pretty cool, and only ~30 CAD.


I might sell off my mp3 player and buy a PSP, since memory sticks are fairly cheap, and playing movies is very cool. I'm also a "gadgets" kinda guy, and I haven't had any new gadgets to show off at school in a while.

Does anyone know a site that has a fully summary or details/features on the PSP? Thanks.

Google 'PSP Review' and go to the playasia review. Quite expansive.

And I noticed that, Connection Problem. But the PSP plays any MP4 video at uberhigh quality. W00t

Upon further research, I've discovered that it has "wireless internet" capabilities. WTFAWESOME?! Heh, I can read Massassi at Swiss Chalet on it! I hope my school uses wireless... and oh, I read an article about Sony suggesting it might support MMORPGs. Seems like a stretch, but wow, that's an awesome rumour...

Innovation-wise: Nintendo DS
Eye Candy-wise: Playstation Portable

Personally, I would get the DS because of its backwards compatibilty with older gameboy games and the fact that its the first hand-held with a neat mouse-like feature done with the pen.

You might want to rephrase that before people come barging in going "OMQWTFBBQ PALM PILOT"

Read the article again. You read it wrong. They specifically say they HOPE it is a software problem. And I am almost sure it isn't going to be a software problem.

Also, they mention loading times for some games. I've read articles from multiple places (even places linked to in this thread) that say the loading times are actually quite often, which can be quite a pain. And they also say that it is unavoidable.

I don't want to be playing an RPG and have to load for 10-15 seconds every freakin battle.

No, they said it could be fixed with software. That means it's a software problem. How about the other points I made?

And the loading times is 5-10 seconds most of the time...which really isn't that bad when you think about it. Everyone I've read from already said that it sounds a lot worse than it is.

I tire of your pointless babble Yoshi, you ARE wrong. I shall quote DIRECTLY FROM THE ARTICLE:

"The PSP has awesome visual clarity, but we have noticed some image bleeding problems with the color red and vertical chopping of fast-moving images. This was notable in the Rally X mini game for Ridge Racers, and becomes even more clear in the faster sequences from the UMD movie clips. Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in software.

Okay now, Yoshi. Are you done arguing this point? Or are you going to ignore the facts?


In addition: a single load time isn't bad, but when it is stacked, it can be. Very bad. I'll let you dance around the issue for now, but I bet later games will have serious load problems.

i think you should all stop getting so furious about a lump of plastic and circuitry, the fact alone that you defend these things as if they were your friend and not just a consumer product seems pretty disturbing.

go to the pub.

That's pretty good. I'd never play a Portable Console for more than an hour or two at a time, and then only on trips.

This argument is so funny, because both sides have formed extremely strong opinions about things that they have never even seen. Both side have formed their opinions with almost no information to back them up, yet their opinions are so strong nothing can change them. The mature thing to do would be to admit that they both might be fun, and since they both have their strengths and weaknesses, a person should make his decision based on his personal taste. However, this flame war will only escalate until a mod locks it. The internet is so funny.

Oh, Yoshi, I’ll post your response for you: “Obi you’re an idiot! Just die! Now!”

OMFQ harhar that's teh funy!!1 lolz

Well, it probably is what he would have posted.

It's funny because it's true.

I agree with Obi on this one. It's personal preference and in the end you're just wasting your lives away on them anyways...

yeah think of all the FPS games that could have been a little easier if they put support for proper controls in... let's see...

Unreal Tournament
Half-Life

those 2 are the only shooters that i know have support for keyboard and mouse... and the PS2 versions aren't all that great

Yeah, but why would you want to play them on a console if you already had them on a PC? Still, I can think of instances where that would come in handy.

I got a PS2 keyboard for reallly cheap. The only time I realy use it is in sports games, especially college games, where I'm putting in names for the rosters. Goes a helluva lot faster than selecting each character. For what I paid for it, I would sya it's worth it. Although I never use it actually for playing games, heh.

the psp has its strong points and some weak points
1: its battery life - con
2: the usb port- pro
3: disc reader- con/pro
4: sonys first handheld- con
5: plays movies and game- pro
ya there is more but u can go on with it

DS:
2 screens- pro
touchable lower screen- pro (note on most if not all reviews they say that the the stylus works real well)
not the first handheld by nintendo- pro
gots a good rep in handheld bus.- pro
goldeneye- Freakin ya right there lol
and the cart. slot of the gba games could be also be used as attachments hinted by nintendo is some articles.-- pro


i got $150 saved up for a ds or ram and 2 or 3 games for my comp, hmmmmmmmm ds probably when i can find one!

It's been said that the battery life for the PS2 is good. Plus, keep the stylus thing to palm pilots. I don't want to shoot at things with a pen in my hand, while moving with another, and shooting stuff with another (Wait...)

Apparently the stylus aiming is the closest possible to mouse aiming...

No, it's not. I've used it. No offense, but it's not, trust me.

Obi--I'm not saying the DS is bad, just destroying the rumors about the PSP's battery life, among other things. I'll admit I read that article wrong--but I didn't shove it in your face on the other five subjects, CM, when you posted your countless bull****, so stop shoving it mine, eh?

The screen may be a bit blurry (I don't know the specs) but having seen videos from the PSP (directly from it, not from the games, like an actual video recording of the screen) and having played the DS, I'd still take the PSP's screen any day. Let's just call that a moot point.

Shut up about the load times though, CM. Seriously, 5-10 seconds isn't that bad, and you don't even know how often it is. It could be every 5 minutes, or every 20, you DON'T KNOW. So quit with it until you have played the damn thing, alright?

Like I said, I like the DS, but there's only one DECENT game for it. That I played like 10 years ago. And beat. Numerous times. That right there tells me it's not worth my cash.

Obi--shut up, you're an idiot. Not just because it was expected, but because you read me wrong--I like the DS, but I don't want to waste money on it as compared with the PSP. Not to mention other reasons which have absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread.

Dj_Yoshi, shutup, you're banned...but after my dinner

h8 u 2 buck

Okay Mr. End all Debate...

A. You take this thing waaaay to seriously.
B. I don't make BS, I give facts based on what I've read. Since this is all I have to go on, along with you. The only reason I forced that fact down your throat was because you were disputing a point I made by simply claiming my evidence as null and void. That ain't cool, okay?
C. What I pointed out were my qualms with it. Accept this fact and get over it. I really, truly do not care if you like the system or not, I am simply stating why I do not.
D. Your last comment. You ALSO don't know. But I perfer to make reasonable assumptions based on what I am told. Of course there is a possibility that I will be wrong, the same as you. But it's all we got to go off of, for the moment.
E. You really, really need a chill pill or something.

I take everything I do seriously. I'm not angry or anything, just lashing back when lashed at.

And if you make such great assumptions, why are over half of your qualms with the PSP null?

They were based on information I had at the time I posted. Sure, some of them are proved null. But not all. I can take being wrong :p

I think the PSP has the potential to be a pocket PC - those memory sticks/USB connectivity are far more useful than a second screen. The illegal potential is extraordinary - people will probably code emulators for it, allow you to boot games from the memory sticks, etc.

Gosh, by informing me of this for the 987th time, I finally see the light! I will immediately try to correct this. Thank you for that helpful, constructive criticism.