Oh I must have forgotten to include the age old disclamer "In my opinion" or even worse "in my humble opinion" just in case anyone would like to argue with my point, or care to point out the infinitely small chance that I am, in fact, wrong in my beliefs.

A thousand apologies to anyone not omnipotent enough to know anything said about something being good or bad is obviously an opinion.

How about for once, people in this forum realize everything anyone says, unless in an actual debate (governmental, sometimes religious, etc) where one provides facts is SOMEONE'S OPINION.

Jesus christ, people, you think you'd catch on by now.

Since when is owning an iPod considered "trendy?" I have one, and I'm pretty much the anithesis of trendy and cool. Guess what? The iPod fits perfectly into the pocket of my $10 jeans from JC Penny, and provides a nice contrast to my Dante Hicks "I'm not supposed to be here" t-shirt and worn-out Reebok tennis shoes. And if you think that I'd listen to U2 simply because they were on an iPod commercial, then you, sir, are ****ing insane (I have nothing against U2, they're just not my kind of music).

And if you're too lazy to read all that (I don't blame you), I'll sum it up for you: Stereotyping is bad.

Yeah, Beethoven is such a poser thing. Anyone who enjoys classical music is just BEGGING for attention. Elvis must of been one of those things as well. HAS IT EVER OCCURED TO YOUR TINY GREY MASS THAT THESE BANDS/PEOPLE ARE POPULAR BECAUSE THEY MAKE GOOD MUSIC?!?!?!


How can you say these things and live!!! My god this is so GAHH! People listen to them because they don't have good taste? Or maybe they listen to them because they sound great and they make good music. You are basically saying that all of the millions of people who like the Beatles and U2 etc. are only listening for attention and only because they have bad taste. I'm sure that only you have good taste in music, and that all us people that listen to 'sell outs' and 'popular bands' are morons. Oh wait, maybe the bands are popular because they make good music.. But oh, that can't be..I just want to fit in with the crowd and be loved! STFU.


U2 hasn't changed. They do the same stuff they have always done. But suddenly they are in a commercial and OH NO! There music can't be good anymore right? I mean if they were in a commercial they OBVIOUSLY sold out, which means they don't care about the music anymore, they are just a bunch of attention and money whores.


Sorry not everyone listens to the good stuff like you do. :emogbksad:

How about you pipe down, Bill

Opinion is fine and dandy, but throwing a fit like you did and so fiercely "expressing" it borders on mania

Bill/DJ: We shouldn't have to assume "in my opinion" is implied in there. You should have the class to put it in yourself. We are not responsible for what you post. You are.

Bill, you realise that when most people leave school and go to college or whatnot they tend to leave their music snobbery behind? Or at the very least increase the breadth of what they listen to.

I have in my collection everything ranging from Black Metal to Pop, I won't try and say that all of it is awesome music but for the most part it is enjoyable music. If I want to listen to some fun music just to get in the mood before going out to a club or something i'll listen to the more poppy stuff. If i'm in the mood to listen to some amazing musical prowess in the hope I pick up some points i'll probably listen to the metal.

At the end of the day, most music snobbery isn't born out the opinion that what other people listen to is rubbish, but out of frustration that nobody is listening to the kind of music that you like.

This thread may get moved to the music forum in the near future depending on what course the discussion takes.

Me expressing my thoughts in many words, and being very definate about what I say does not, in any way, mean that I am throwing a fit. I'm simply stating an opinion.

And Sajn, what you're asking is simply rediculous. If I don't like the Beatles, U2 (who I coincidently hated even before they made that commercial), and Elvis, should I tell people that since they like the aforementioned artists, that they have good taste. It's really quite obvious that I'm going to condemn their taste if they like music that I hate. I'm supposed to sit here and say "oh hey SAJN, even though I hate all of the music that you like, you still have impeccable taste." Right.



OMG! That's just your opinion!!!!111

Honestly, SAJN, has it ever occured to your insufferably huge grey mass that popularity doesn't make something good? Things can be good and popular, or good and not popular, or popular, and bad, or not popular and not good. It's really quite simple. The popularity of many bands can be explained by the fact that many people have horrible taste. Has it ever occured to your tiny grey mass that Britney Spears sells millions of records because she's good? Oh it wouldn't, because you probably hate her, and that makes her bad. Nice Try.



Oh, I'm sorry. You completely misunderstood me. They sucked even before the iPod commercial, and they suck the same now. If they really cared about music, they would change, instead of making the same ****ty records that they have been churning out since before you were born.



I think I already went over this. If someone likes music that I hate, I obviously will believe that they have bad taste. Me telling them this is simply stating my opinion.



You're right. You shouldn't have to assume "in my opinion" is implied. You should automatically know that it is implied in there. We are not responsible for your common sense, you are.

I stated exactly that in my first long post. In case you're implying that I am inflicting my musical snobbery on anyone, I would like to defend myself. I am simply stating my tastes, and stating my disagreement with SAJN's tastes. If I am curt about stating these things it is because I do not believe in beating around the bush or using needless phrases like "It's just my opinion."

This is going to be closed. :/

In my opinion it won't.

Ok, Bill, I don't like RadioHead. At all. I think it's depressing and whiney. BUT, I appreciate that I am in the minority, that they are talented and critically acclaimed and don't say that people who dislike them have BAD taste. Their taste DIFFERS from my own.

THERE IS A SUBTLE DIFFERENCE

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subtelty removed for clarity.

and that is awesome instaposting.

Yea but why do you all have to be like "My music rawks urs sux lol"

Honestly I hate people like that, even if I like the same music they do.

You can disagree with their taste, but dont go around being an *** saying "OMG EWW U2? U SUK"
Seriously guys, its much easier to say "Oh you like u2? I dont. *state civil and proper reasons* But thats alright, people are entitled to their own opinion"

See Martyn, I understand where you're coming from. In the case of something like Bob Dylan, who I do not like, yet do not hate, I would say that their taste differs from mine. I *hate* U2. I think they are horrible. Ergo, anyone that likes U2, would, to my prying eyes, appear to have bad taste. If SAJN were to come back and say that his favorite band is Black Sabbath, I would then say that he has decent taste, due to the fact that Sabbath rocks so hard that it counter-acts how much U2 sucks.

I hope it is understood.

It is understood, but by no means logical :p

Oh well it appears we have reached a deal.

I never claimed to be logical.

Exactly

Maddox rocks

Nice re-rail!

/move along people!

/me pulls down pants an waves *** in air for all to kiss.

I already did that once tonight in #massassi you greedy curr!

Do it again I like your lips.

Nah, you tasted funny. Kinda like poo smells.

/really not coming back to this one now...

Did someone say pooh?

I don't take Maddox that seriously. I just think he's not funny. But he's trying real hard. Strangely enough despite feeling this way I am perfectly happy with other people enjoying his comedy and don't feel the need to throw insults at them for it.

Ain't that a novel concept.

TAHTS UNPOSSIBLE!

I like some of Maddox's stuff, mainly the hate mail. Watching anyone walking all over morons who can barely write is hilarious, but Maddox's enormous ego and talent for bringing out the worst in people makes his that much more entertaining.

Still not as good as his tribute to real men.



Or his comments on kids' artworks.

Bill needs to die right now...

How can someone rant about "blah blah my opinion blah blah wah wah" and "just because you like it doesn't make it good" in the same thread? If there is a god I will be granted the miraculous ability to choke people through the internet.

OMFG that tribute to men is just pwnage.

http://maddox.xmission.com/tictacs.html

No swearing in this particular link, I don't think. HILARIOUS, buddy of mine used it in his poli sci class.

Mikus, I appreciate the fact that you apparantly tried to understand. Next time add a few clicks to the trying knob and maybe you'll get it.

I ranted about my opinion of U2 and why I think they suck, but was told I was wrong. I then explained to those of us that happen to have down syndrome that what I said was an opinion. While I understand that you don't grasp this concept, and I generally have a lack of patiance for things like this, I'm going to make an exception in your case because apparantly compassion is not your only defecit.

Sajn loves U2. I hate U2. Sajn has his opinion. I have my opinion. While I have stated that Sajn loving U2 does not make them good, apparantly you did not realize that conversely, my point of view states that just because I hate them, they are not factually bad. I just think they're bad. I think they suck. It r my opinion d00d! Get me?

While we're at it, we can file "*user-x* needs to die right now." in with other catchy witticisms like "Quoted For Truth," "Fixed," and the classic replying "No." in the second post of the thread. Nice try. You were almost funny.

If there is a god I will be granted the ability to rip off popular Bash.org quotes just like mikus, because everyone knows that is the coolest thing ever.

indeed.

OH NOS I AM USING POP CULTURE. *HISS HISS* I MUST RETREAT BACK TO THE CAVE AWAY FROM YOUR KEEN EYE AND ORIGINALITY, IF ONLY I WASN'T SUCH A CONFORMIST, IF ONLY I HATED EVERYTHING, I COULD BE ACCEPTED

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Huh, I figured Bill would've at least commented on my first post. I'm still curious about the whole 'iPods are for trendy who don't think for themselves" rant.

I only want an iPod cause all my friends have them (And to play solitare because I don't have any friends:()

The point is, and it's really rather sad that I must point this out, U2 did the commercial specifically to attempt to be accepted by the trendy ****ers that worship everything macintosh. The same people that think it's cool to like something because it's not mainstream. The only problem is, it IS mainstream, because there are so many people that are trying too hard to be conformist, and they think that nonconformity comes from wearing the right t shirts or buying a computer that not as many people buy for a reason.

And guess what, if you really need to be able to carry around 400 GB of music with you, you've got some serious problems. I like to watch movies, but I don't go out and buy a portable dvd player. Wanna know why? Because I have better things to do with my money. I can listen to a maximum of about 18 songs on my cd player, and I rarely carry it with me. Wanna know why? I don't need music all the time. I can listen to music when I'm at home, or when I'm at a friend's house, and you know what? That's good enough for me.

And don't give me that crap about how you listen to it between classes. If you're sitting around waiting for your next class to start because you apparantly suck at scheduling or were too lazy to make an appointment until it was too late, then maybe you should get off of your *** and go talk to some other people that suck at scheduling. Maybe you'll meet a girl and the two of you can be an irresponsible couple and live happily ever after. Think of this: Maybe you can copy all of the songs off of her iPod onto your's!

Disclaimer: The content of this post is not directed specifically at anyone. I simply replied to the things that JediHunter_X stated in his/her post. If any of the above applies to you, consider it pointed vaguely in your direction.

I once missed a bus into uni due to there being a bit of an emergency with the next-door neigbour giving birth outside her house, as a result I missed a critical lecture that years later would have come in handy when trying to solve that meltdown crisis.

From this I can draw the completely awesome conclusion that pregnant women cause nuclear meltdowns.

For this and other rediculous cause-and-effect horror stories, check out Bill's blog.