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(PS3) Jesus, this thing is THE X Box 360 killer
2005-05-16, 6:04 PM #41
The PS3's controller...jesus christ did sony screw up. They'd better change that **** fast.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 6:10 PM #42
Wait, what are the XBox specs compared to the PS3 specs.
"Nulla tenaci invia est via"
2005-05-16, 6:13 PM #43
Oooohohh....

That PS3 is nice....
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2005-05-16, 6:13 PM #44
http://www.pgnx.net/news.php?page=full&id=8398

Comparison.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 6:17 PM #45
[http://img201.echo.cx/img201/9771/e32005playstation3thecontrolle.jpg]
"His Will Was Set, And Only Death Would Break It"

"None knows what the new day shall bring him"
2005-05-16, 6:19 PM #46
[http://img174.echo.cx/img174/3710/killzone1gn.jpg]


[http://img174.echo.cx/img174/8756/warhawk4pt.jpg]


[http://img174.echo.cx/img174/8210/devilmaycry8qp.jpg]


[http://img253.echo.cx/img253/853/easportsfightnightround3200505.jpg]
"His Will Was Set, And Only Death Would Break It"

"None knows what the new day shall bring him"
2005-05-16, 6:37 PM #47
whats the expected price range on these machines? thinking i might have to start saving up!
The Gas Station
2005-05-16, 6:49 PM #48
[http://img11.echo.cx/img11/2882/tekken1di.jpg]
"His Will Was Set, And Only Death Would Break It"

"None knows what the new day shall bring him"
2005-05-16, 6:50 PM #49
Beautiful.....I'm not sure what other word I can choose.
2005-05-16, 6:50 PM #50
Quote:
Originally posted by Grant
whats the expected price range on these machines? thinking i might have to start saving up!


If it's over $250 it's a ripoff.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-05-16, 6:51 PM #51
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
If it's over $250 it's a ripoff.


Are you retarded? These things are better than $3000+ machines right now.

300 is the targeted range I believe, could be mistaken.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 6:56 PM #52
Woah agly-*** controllers.

Attack of the beige consoles! And black is so much cooler...
The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.
2005-05-16, 7:06 PM #53
Quote:
Controllers:

PS3: Bluetooth (up to 7)


er.... excuse me, but how does one DO a seven player splitscreen game? Seven makes sense for things like peripherals, but still.... That says support for seven CONTROLLERS. feh. Whatever. I'm waiting 6 months after they all come out anyway before I buy anything. I want to see what games come out, accessories, peripherals, reviews, etc. And even then... I might not buy anything for awhile.
"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
Are you finding Ling-Ling's head?
Last Stand
2005-05-16, 7:10 PM #54
Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
er.... excuse me, but how does one DO a seven player splitscreen game? Seven makes sense for things like peripherals, but still.... That says support for seven CONTROLLERS. feh. Whatever. I'm waiting 6 months after they all come out anyway before I buy anything. I want to see what games come out, accessories, peripherals, reviews, etc. And even then... I might not buy anything for awhile.


It probably wasn't made for 7 people. More like it just ended up that way.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 7:11 PM #55
Quote:
Originally posted by mscbuck

[http://img174.echo.cx/img174/8756/warhawk4pt.jpg]


I'd still get a...

Holy crap, that looks freaking awesome to the max extreme DX ultra. Freakin' carrier airships! What the hell is that!
2005-05-16, 7:13 PM #56
The PS3 on/off switch is on the back again... ... ...... *sigh*.

2005-05-16, 7:14 PM #57
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
It probably wasn't made for 7 people. More like it just ended up that way.


Ok.... but still.... why throw in something you can't support?
"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
Are you finding Ling-Ling's head?
Last Stand
2005-05-16, 7:16 PM #58
Those controllers.....
The tired anthem of a loser and a hypocrite.
2005-05-16, 7:17 PM #59
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Mega_ZZTer
The PS3 on/off switch is on the back again... ... ...... *sigh*.



Keep it on.

Hold down reset button.

Presto! Your PS2 is turned off! Hit the reset button to turn it back on, hold it to turn it off. (You can also open the disc holder to turn it on.) Brilliant!
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2005-05-16, 7:20 PM #60
Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
Ok.... but still.... why throw in something you can't support?


Whoa, I didn't say it couldn't support it. It probably can. But there's more than just Controllers that use Bluetooth.

And MZZT--that's why the sleep mode was created.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 7:22 PM #61
Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
er.... excuse me, but how does one DO a seven player splitscreen game?


Sports games.

I've played FIFA with 5 players before all on the same team. Fun stuff, everyone kept running our defence up forward in crazy attempts to score goals. Most sports games already support up to 8 players with 2 multi-taps.
The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.
2005-05-16, 7:23 PM #62
Yep. Sports games alright. My NHL '98 for the PSX had support for 8 players.
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2005-05-16, 7:46 PM #63
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
I hear Jesus Christ is buying a Revolution. Nuff said.


Apparently, Penny Arcade disagrees with you.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2005-04-13&res=l
language.


Personally, since they showed a video of FFVII in what it was supposed to be like, only the aren't making a remake, I will burn any PS3 I find.

I will be getting an XBOX360.
2005-05-16, 7:58 PM #64
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Sadly MGS4 isn't being done by Kojima...so we'll have to see on its quality


Some of us are still hanging on to the hope he'll stay on for this game. A lot of his coworkers are unofficially saying that they don't think he's acheived his masterpiece yet, and that he'll eventually come to his senses and announce that he'll finish the sereise once and for all. If you really think about it, although 3 wrapped up a lot, there's still some floating questions, mainly about solidus. I believe that a 4th game would fill that gap; would kojima leave the final chapter to his masterpiece in the hands of his team? He's been labeled as a perfectionist to an unhealthy level before. I'm willing, more likelly hoping, he'll need to have his hands on this project.

Oh, and the PS3? Consoles have simply become PCs now. And I have 3 PS2 games that I actually enjoy. MGS, Kingdom Hearts, FF8, and GTA. You won't see me pay another 300 dollars just to play these games' sequels. I'll wait till they release a mini slim revamp for 100 bucks. At that point, I'll rent the games I want to play via some summer long rerent deal; then buy the ones that are worth replaying. The same goes for the other consoles. I've just lost all faith in consoles when their specs are comparable to a PCs. I would void my warrenty if I upgraded my PS2 to a PS3. Instead I pay another 300 dollars for some of the SAME hardware. AND IT'S BACKWARDS COMPATABLE! If PC makers did this, everyone would have a hernia. And making games for only a single PC brand? That wouldn't fly too well either. Heck, even having a windows only videogame has become damnable. No, I'm sorry consoles, but you're NOT worth my 300 dollars. I'll get a new processor instead.

JediKirby
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2005-05-16, 8:02 PM #65
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
Oh, and the PS3? Consoles have simply become PCs now. And I have 3 PS2 games that I actually enjoy. MGS, Kingdom Hearts, FF8, and GTA.


You mean...4 games you enjoy?
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2005-05-16, 8:07 PM #66
You demonic cultists and your math! HEATHEN!
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2005-05-16, 8:08 PM #67
BIGGEST MATH ERROR EVER[/size]
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2005-05-16, 8:12 PM #68
Like counting is a natural born skill!?
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2005-05-16, 8:20 PM #69
Er... Kirby, the hardware in the PS3 is worth well in excess of 3000$. You have to spend 200$ to 300$ a year on a PC to keep it running on the latest games at the highest settings.

Something has been bothering me though. With all this hardware the these next gen consoles, either Sony and MS are taking a HUGE loss, or we are getting ripped off big time. Or perhaps, though this is unlikely, PC hardware is in for a big price dip pretty soon.
2005-05-16, 8:22 PM #70
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
Some of us are still hanging on to the hope he'll stay on for this game. A lot of his coworkers are unofficially saying that they don't think he's acheived his masterpiece yet, and that he'll eventually come to his senses and announce that he'll finish the sereise once and for all. If you really think about it, although 3 wrapped up a lot, there's still some floating questions, mainly about solidus. I believe that a 4th game would fill that gap; would kojima leave the final chapter to his masterpiece in the hands of his team? He's been labeled as a perfectionist to an unhealthy level before. I'm willing, more likelly hoping, he'll need to have his hands on this project.

Oh, and the PS3? Consoles have simply become PCs now. And I have 3 PS2 games that I actually enjoy. MGS, Kingdom Hearts, FF8, and GTA. You won't see me pay another 300 dollars just to play these games' sequels. I'll wait till they release a mini slim revamp for 100 bucks. At that point, I'll rent the games I want to play via some summer long rerent deal; then buy the ones that are worth replaying. The same goes for the other consoles. I've just lost all faith in consoles when their specs are comparable to a PCs. I would void my warrenty if I upgraded my PS2 to a PS3. Instead I pay another 300 dollars for some of the SAME hardware. AND IT'S BACKWARDS COMPATABLE! If PC makers did this, everyone would have a hernia. And making games for only a single PC brand? That wouldn't fly too well either. Heck, even having a windows only videogame has become damnable. No, I'm sorry consoles, but you're NOT worth my 300 dollars. I'll get a new processor instead.

JediKirby


Politeness be damned.

1) This thing's better than a PC at a fraction of the cost.
2) This thing has way better specs, different hardware, and isn't going slim anytime soon. It gives off more heat than an effing prescott oc'ed 5 ghz.
3) Your rant on PCs is senseless.

I fail to see how they're not worth 300 dollars, esPECIALLY now. I mean, when a console does better than a PC can and costs less, I call that a good damn deal.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 8:25 PM #71
Remember, Yoshi, the polite way to say "You're retarded" is "I disagree with your opinion."

Thank you, and have a nice day.
2005-05-16, 8:27 PM #72
By the time the PS3 comes out, my computer will have surpassed it in power. You have to realize: consoles aren't upgradable, therefore in theory you're wasting more money on the consoles by buying the latest and greatest than you are wasting money on the latest and greatest PC upgrades.

Not to mention, this PC will run games 10 years from now, 20 unless some standards become obsolete. I may have to shovel 300 bucks into it every 5 years (Yes, 5 years. Not the 2 years most idiots keep up. I can WAIT to play some big trendy game if it saves me from paying 300 dollars every single year) But I WON'T have an obsolete machine sitting on my shelf. Not to mention, I'll have the same internet with the same fee, and unless I suddenly play MMOs, I won't pay monthly for a single one of my games. And on top of all that, I save money. No, buying a new console every time a new one comes out may insure you play some cool games, but it also ensures you'll pay for playing the next batch of great games. Computers are far more reliable.

Oh, by the way, I might not be legal in saying this, but with consoles becomming so PC like, it'll be a Piece of cake to emulate a PS3 and play GTA: Steriotypical Metropolis.

JediKirby
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2005-05-16, 8:31 PM #73
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
By the time the PS3 comes out, my computer will have surpassed it in power. You have to realize: consoles aren't upgradable, therefore in theory you're wasting more money on the consoles by buying the latest and greatest than you are wasting money on the latest and greatest PC upgrades.

Not to mention, this PC will run games 10 years from now, 20 unless some standards become obsolete. I may have to shovel 300 bucks into it every 5 years (Yes, 5 years. Not the 2 years most idiots keep up. I can WAIT to play some big trendy game if it saves me from paying 300 dollars every single year) and still keep up with most games. Not to mention, I'll have the same internet with the same fee, and unless I suddenly play MMOs, I won't pay monthly for a single one of my games. And on top of all that, I save money. No, buying a new console every time a new one comes out may insure you play some cool games, but it also ensures you'll pay for playing the next batch of great games. Computers are far more reliable.

Oh, by the way, I might not be legal in saying this, but with consoles becomming so PC like, it'll be a Piece of cake to emulate a PS3 and play GTA: Steriotypical Metropolis.

JediKirby


No, it won't. You're wrong in everything you say, I'm sorry.

Your PC will not be omg greater in a year. At best it will be on PAR with these consoles. They're getting scratched at the surface (think first gen PS1 games vs later life PS1 games) and they're already amazingly better than ours. In fact, the only similarities hardware speaking are the graphics cards and some of the RAM. The rest is brand new or stuff that isn't used in PCs period (RISC chips).

And the PC isn't seeing the Cell processor anytime soon.

Emulation would be hard as hell too. Remember the PS3 basically has 9 processors, 1 gpu, and a crapload of REALLY fast RAM. Emulating that would be a *****. Not to mention you'd also be working with a chip of an entirely different structure.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 8:32 PM #74
Most of the PS3 specs are hype, remember how sweet the emotion engine was going to be?

I would bet that alot of those screenshots are FMV as well. The tekken one is clearly a render.
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2005-05-16, 8:33 PM #75
Quote:
Originally posted by oSiRiS
Most of the PS3 specs are hype, remember how sweet the emotion engine was going to be?

I would bet that alot of those screenshots are FMV as well. The tekken one is clearly a render.


...Hype?

They've already shown the power of half of those specs (cell processor rendering stuff, gpu faster than 2 6800 Ultras).

The Tekken one I'll give you as a render since it just looks TOO good and the frame is too weird.

But the rest are easily doable.

Unreal 3/SS2 anyone?
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 8:36 PM #76
Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
er.... excuse me, but how does one DO a seven player splitscreen game? Seven makes sense for things like peripherals, but still.... That says support for seven CONTROLLERS.


I don't know it might be good for widescreen TVs. I have played 8 player Halo with two Xboxes hooked up to a single widescreen TV and it wasn't that bad.
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2005-05-16, 9:04 PM #77
Your mom was an Xbox360 killer, last night.
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2005-05-16, 9:07 PM #78
Quote:
Originally posted by Zojombize
I don't know it might be good for widescreen TVs. I have played 8 player Halo with two Xboxes hooked up to a single widescreen TV and it wasn't that bad.


I can see it working for Sport Games where everyone shares the same view of the field, but for an actual splitscreen game where every needs their own piece of screen... I can't see it working. One of the biggest problems I've noticed when playing some games with more then 2 people in split screen is the HUD. The information relayed via the HUD is generally important, and there isn't always that much you can cut out. And the smaller the screen gets, the more space that HUD takes up. If they've found a way to do a seven person split screen game without problems like that, Bravo. But right now, I can't see it happening. I think, like Yoshi said and I guessed before, that the number seven and bluetooth is really the important information there. Eliminate the controller part. The remaining 3 "ports" for bluetooth could be for accessories and peripherals. Ditto for all the others too depending upon how many controllers are in use.
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Last Stand
2005-05-16, 9:21 PM #79
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html

Damn.
D E A T H
2005-05-16, 9:30 PM #80
Sadly, still no movies or screens for MGS4 (in case you hadn't guessed, I love MGS), but Killzone looks damn sexy.
I bet you think that's funny, don't you.
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