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If ANH takes place 19 years AFTER RotS...
2005-05-21, 5:11 PM #1
...why does Obi-Wan look like he aged 50 years?!
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2005-05-21, 5:12 PM #2
Post traumatic annihiliation disorder.
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2005-05-21, 5:15 PM #3
and why did it take so long to build one death star but no time at all to build the second?
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2005-05-21, 5:17 PM #4
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Originally posted by DrkJedi82
and why did it take so long to build one death star but no time at all to build the second?


Maybe the second was already in construction when the first one had been built. Either that, or they just learned how to engineer the second one faster after building a first one.
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2005-05-21, 5:17 PM #5
Quote:
Originally posted by DrkJedi82
and why did it take so long to build one death star but no time at all to build the second?


First time they built it, they didn't know how to do it. So they were experimenting for 19 years. :rolleyes:
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2005-05-21, 5:19 PM #6
Why is it important?
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2005-05-21, 5:21 PM #7
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Originally posted by Jazzkokehead
Why is it important?


It's not important.
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2005-05-21, 5:23 PM #8
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Originally posted by Jazzkokehead
Why is it important?
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2005-05-21, 5:25 PM #9
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Originally posted by Dominik
First time they built it, they didn't know how to do it. So they were experimenting for 19 years. :rolleyes:


i was mostly just joking...
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2005-05-21, 5:39 PM #10
Quote:
Originally posted by DrkJedi82
i was mostly just joking...


I too was mostly just joking...
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2005-05-21, 5:55 PM #11
but sometimes i wonder...
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if luke ever mentioned yoda to chewie and chewie said "i saved that midget's life before you were even born kid"
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2005-05-21, 5:59 PM #12
`Cause for the second Death Star, they hired independent contractors.

As far as Obi-Wan aging, assume he was 25 in TPM (in the book they said he was like 27 if I remember correctly), thus he is 40 by the time he goes into hiding, thus he is about 59, 60 when he comes back out of hiding. Plus he lives on a frigging desert planet.
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2005-05-21, 6:07 PM #13
I think just as our technology has progressed in 19 years, a long time ago, theirs did as well...

I also refer you to when anikan lost his hand in EP 2 and hand a mechanical hand. Luke lost his is Episode 5 and got a brand new hand...
2005-05-21, 6:31 PM #14
it was still a mechanical hand noob... just looked more like a hand
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2005-05-21, 6:33 PM #15
It's a combination of factors. Most significantly it was supposed to be SUPER-SECRET. They were using inmates from a maximum security prison as slave labor. Additionally, the Galactic Senate still existed and the Emperor needed to keep it as quiet as possible.

The second Death Star was a known, and the Emperor had even more control by that point so he could funnel just about all of the galaxy's resources into it.
2005-05-21, 7:17 PM #16
Why was the first deathstar built with a full frame, and then the second one built all crazy like? i never understood the idea behind the deathstar in RotJ..i mean building it the way they were just seemed dumb.
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2005-05-21, 7:32 PM #17
OK,
Living in a sea port, I've seen single ships built one year, and then 5 like it built in the next. Once you put together the technologies to build one death star, you can use the docking bays and assembly stations, instead of having to build those first in order to build the death star. Not to mention, even if the empire was confident in their design, that doesn't mean they'd shovel all of their resources into it. I'm sure the empire didn't have enough power and control in the galaxy to just shovel all resources into an experimental and untested battle station. It had to be built slow enough so that the rest of the empire could be funded and continued.

And the second deathstar was fully operational; that's all. It was far from COMPLETE. That explains it's ramshackle design.

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2005-05-21, 7:33 PM #18
..touche
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2005-05-21, 9:08 PM #19
The Death Star was designed by the Trade Federation/Separatists, rather than the Empire itself, so it looks like that part of EU has been pretty much discounted (along with the entire idea of that installation in the black holes, it seems)
2005-05-22, 12:00 AM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by DrkJedi82
and why did it take so long to build one death star but no time at all to build the second?


Don't you remember? They doubled their efforts. ;)
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2005-05-22, 6:13 AM #21
Hey, were Luke and Leia born by episode 3? (Haven't seen it yet.) Because if not, how could Vader have said he wanted Luke to have his lightsaber?

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(And if they were, then nevermind.)
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2005-05-22, 6:39 AM #22
They were but he didnt. Obi Wan just made that up.
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2005-05-22, 6:42 AM #23
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Originally posted by DogSRoOL
Hey, were Luke and Leia born by episode 3? (Haven't seen it yet.) Because if not, how could Vader have said he wanted Luke to have his lightsaber?

BUM BUM BUM!!!

(And if they were, then nevermind.)


They were born at the end of the movie, and Padme dies giving birth to them.
2005-05-22, 6:56 AM #24
No, she dies because she "loses the will to live".
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2005-05-22, 7:42 AM #25
well i'd think being choked by the person you love could do that....


anyway yeah obiwan most likely just made up that whole "your father wanted you to have this" thing but they did at least explain how he got anakin's saber
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2005-05-22, 8:16 AM #26
The continuity between ANH and RotS is pretty bad.
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2005-05-22, 8:19 AM #27
No it's not!
2005-05-22, 9:21 AM #28
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Originally posted by fishstickz
No, she dies because she "loses the will to live".


...Which is pretty stupid and out of character considering she had just given birth to twins.
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2005-05-22, 9:23 AM #29
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Originally posted by Spork
...Which is pretty stupid and out of character considering she had just given birth to twins.


Think about it.

You had just found out the one you loved has destroyed countless Jedi.

He has fallen to the darkside, throwing caution to the wind and ignoring his lightside teachings.

He attempted to kill you by force choking you.

If you were Padme, I dont think things would be looking up right then.
2005-05-22, 9:42 AM #30
..She'd just given birth to her children! Selfishly abandoning her offspring to a future which will clearly be dominated by their now evil and insane father just does not ring true for a character who was otherwise one of the strongest and most virtuous the prequels have to offer.
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2005-05-22, 9:51 AM #31
I think the point was that the reason Anakin turned to the dark side was to save padme. Yet she died because he turned to the dark side.
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2005-05-22, 10:26 AM #32
Quote:
Originally posted by Spork
They were but he didnt. Obi Wan just made that up.
Can light-side Jedi's lie?
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2005-05-22, 10:39 AM #33
He said his father wanted him to have it. That was probably true, though it was never said.
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2005-05-22, 10:55 AM #34
Quote:
Originally posted by Dominik
First time they built it, they didn't know how to do it. So they were experimenting for 19 years. :rolleyes:


accually thats mostly true... the first deathstar prototype had a reactor unfit for firing a superlaser with enough power to destroy an entire planet...

i think why the seperatists weren't credited for the design of the death star was because the empire didnt want word of this to get out, and when a imperial commander finally stepped forward with designs to a new core, they gave all credit to him.....
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2005-05-22, 11:16 AM #35
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Originally posted by DogSRoOL
Can light-side Jedi's lie?



It wasnt a lie "from a certain point of view" ;)
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2005-05-22, 3:23 PM #36
Maybe one day, out of the many days that Anakin and Obi Wan were chilling together, Anakin said "You know what, Obi Wan. If I ever get Padme pregnant and she has a son, I want him to have my lightsaber."
Perhaps he said this in a drunken stupor, hence why Obi Wan caught on so quickly to who the father was in RotS.
2005-05-22, 3:32 PM #37
Think about this though, you are being CHOKED by someone who isn't even touching you, through the Force. Maybe there is some deep down psychological damage it does too, who knows? They fixed all VISIBLE SURFACE damage when she was dying, but there might be other damage they could not fix (obviously) that caused her to die.
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2005-05-22, 3:35 PM #38
I think it's really stupid how no one knew she was having twins. I mean, when Leia is having childen, Luke can sense both of them across the galaxy, and they aren't even his children.
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2005-05-22, 4:06 PM #39
Not to mention pregnant people get numerous check-ups throughout their pregnancy. She would have known if they were twins.
2005-05-22, 4:22 PM #40
Ok question about the twins:

At any point did they mention if it was a boy or girl IN THE MOVIE? And there have been cases in the past where children have been born and they don't realize there are twins until the birth. Or maybe she never had herself tested to see if it was twins, boy or girl?
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