Is it just me, or is that guy holding a case of beer? Maybe that's why they say he's looting.

[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Is it just me, or is that guy holding a case of beer? Maybe that's why they say he's looting.[/QUOTE]

Well, looking at it closely, I'm pretty sure it's a case of Diet Pepsi.



Upon further consideration, if I had to guess what the main factor in calling the second one "looting" is, I'd say it was the black trash bag. It's not really a rational connection, but I'd say most people are more likely to associate a trash bag with looting than a couple of backpacks.

I saw the fullsize picture on Yahoo. It's diet Pepsi.

Anyway, the discrepancy in terminology isn't because the AP is racist, it's because the AFP is run by French socialist pinko commies who refuse to recognize the concept of private property. Duh.

I haven't noticed any racism but I wonder if you care to modify your first sentence at all. You really have no problem with any of the looters?

[QUOTE=Michael MacFarlane]I haven't seen any evidence that the majority of this food-looting is resulting in people getting hurt. If people are hurting each other, that's not okay, but it's a separate issue.[/QUOTE]

I read somewhere that a lot of carjacking was going on or something. Either way, look at Bobberts post. There are also a few other examples of what i mean.

Right, and those things are not okay. Taking food that's going to go bad anyway so you can feed yourself until you're rescued is.

Michael: I'd imagine that at least the valuable jewelry would have been put in the safe beforehand. Assuming jewelry stores have safes.

Wookie: Absent any other crime, sure. You know, neglible harm, no foul. Since even the police are getting into it (mostly crucial life saving supplies... and a couple DVDs) I'd say the law is pretty much inoperable, leaving the supermarket shelves stocked with ownerless goods.

Glad for the clarification. I can buy that if we're talking about limitting to food stuffs and items needed for day to day living such as toiletries. All the other looting such as department store and auto thefts are terrible. Not to mention all the gang activity being reported.

Probably, though there have been reports of jewelry thefts. I don't like that the non-food related looting is happening, but I do recognize the impossibility of doing anything about it -- you don't have a jail to put them in, and shooting them would be horribly immoral.

[QUOTE=Michael MacFarlane]Probably, though there have been reports of jewelry thefts. I don't like that the non-food related looting is happening, but I do recognize the impossibility of doing anything about it -- you don't have a jail to put them in, and shooting them would be horribly immoral.[/QUOTE]

Some looted WalMart for guns, and people have been shot at..but that's really another topic, I guess.

The looters aren't just taking stuff, they're taking stuff and then setting the stores on fire to cover their tracks. That's hardly "negligable harm."

Well it's not like the store was going to last long... :p

How do you set a flooded store on fire anyway? :S

I'm afraid I can't read PDFs. But your post is gone now, so... :\

p.s. you know I was joking, right?

Very Very true.
They just reported a group of looters walking around with guns shooting at people, raping women, and turning downtown into a war zone.

They have also taken over the dome from police...

[QUOTE=Jedi Legend]The posts are not deleted. It's been split into the thread called "Flame War over nothing." This isn't UBB. vB has the ability to eliminate waste from a thread and document it for comic relief.[/QUOTE]

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If I was there and was starving, I would definitely loot some food and water, just to keep going. I would pay for it if I could, but in most of these stores there is no one to pay, so it seems, so wghat else can you do besides just take it? Besides, most of the food would spoil anyway, and food is hard to find in New Orleans right now, so I would hardly fault anyone for taking it.

I would also try and get my hands on a weapon if I could, b/c New Orleans is basically hell right now, and anarchy pretty much reigns supreme. You would need something to protect yourself, Ideally, I would try to get a gun. A 9mm pistol would do fine.

I do think that the people that are looting TVs and things like that are a**holes, though. There is virtually no infrastructure left, so what the hell are you going to do with a TV if there is no power to run it?

I really feel bad for the people who are in the SuperDome, though. Conditions must be absolute squalor in there by now.

[QUOTE=Unknown User]Very Very true.
They just reported a group of looters walking around with guns shooting at people, raping women, and turning downtown into a war zone.

They have also taken over the dome from police...[/QUOTE]

I find this funny; all those "cops/authority are evil" people here (you know who you are) should be eating crow right about now. Even in the worst of tragedies, people are still idiots who need to have the crap beaten out of them.

I think people who say 'looters should be shot' should be shot.

Just to make a point that 'saying people should be shot for (relatively unimportant stuff)' isn't tolerated.

:p

No, they might as well be shot. Profiteering off of a disaster isn't done by civilized individuals anyway. They are scum.

And when I mean "looting" I mean things other to keep you alive. It isn't looting when you steal bread to not starve. It is stealing to steal jewelry.

[QUOTE=Lord Kuat]No, they might as well be shot. Profiteering off of a disaster isn't done by civilized individuals anyway. They are scum.[/QUOTE]

Insurance salesmen are scum by that definition. Hmm. No arguments here.

The difference is people willingly sign up for insurance. And this whole situation jsut disgusts me , i feel no pity for these people who are looting for non necessities. I sincerely hope they get caught in the act by the boys in green, or get eaten by gators. Either one.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5251105,00.html

New Orleans is starting to sound like the island in Gotham from Batman Begins.

I wonder how long it is before martial law is formally declared in NO.

Somewhere, ol' Satchmo sings the blues

A round of applause for this police officer please. That woman needs to get her head out of her *** and realize the police are no better off than she is. She needs to get off her butt and do something for herself.

Speaking of which, Fats Domino has been lost in New Orleans.

Last thing heard was that he told his management he was gonna "ride this one out".

WTF



That's a pretty out-of-touch-with-reality statement to make.

not sure, but I've heard on the radio that marshal law has been instated, the national guard has been called in, and they have snipers on rooftops with orders to shoot to kill.

is any of this true?

You offer a quite stimulating alternative view. I'll need some time to reflect on that.

I hope Marshall Law is instated. Maybe then people will start helping each other instead of shooting eachother and looking for the government to hand them everything.

What I mean to say is, who frigging cares about frigging looting, while there are thousands of people who haven't had any food since monday!

We're talking major disaster here, people have died in massive numbers and will continue to do so because the authorities are failing to help them out for 4 days!

that's the real issue here! They need to evacuate those black people they have been letting down for days, they need to organize camps with food and water. Restore law and order later, first priority should be helping the people.

Did you guys hear that speach from the mayor of New Orleans?

And to think that they even knew it was coming... I am speachless.

And how exactly do they do that when there is no access? When people trying to help are shot at and attacked? There's no way I'd go into help unless I was armed to the teeth and with other people who were fully armed, like the military.

...and yet that woman, and many others like her, paid taxes for things like police forces to assist in this situation. When you join the police, it's not a "help if you feel like it" bit. Your job is to serve and protect. The woman didn't do anything wrong by simply asking, "Can you help me?"

When the evacuators are too scared to go in and rescue people because of all the looters shooting at them, I would say that something needs to be done.

I'll never understand that logic- "I'll shoot you if you don't do this for me." If they do shoot you, then they definately won't get anything done.

Under normal circumstances, that would certainly be the case, however, the protection of the officers own life comes no. 1 all the time, not helping others. Geiven the current situation, a police offier can't do much of anything because there is no support system for said police officer. And, realistically, what could he really do?

Was searching around and found this, has comments from the photographers of the photos.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/katrina/looters.asp

As usual it is a case of people getting bent out of shape over vague details.

I was JUST going to post that.

-Out of the first 11 items on Snopes' "What's New" list, 10 are about Katrina.

Didn't find this thread at first

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/619.html

Kanye West: "George Bush doesn't care about black people"

Kanye gets to join the moron list.

Unless I'm missing a huge detail, why is the military unable to help ATM? I don't quite understand that.