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Looting in New Orleans
2005-09-03, 9:42 AM #81
I like how Kayne says that Bush has given the military the authorization to shoot black people, not people who are firing at refugees.
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2005-09-06, 6:37 AM #82
To those that dont think there is at least some degree of subliminal racist message behind the pictures. Watch this video:

http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown-looting-in-walmart/


It's two police officers looting a local wal mart. But what is interesting about the video is that the only people shown looting are all black. Even the police are black.

If that's not subliminal racial profiling, I dont know what is.
2005-09-06, 8:54 AM #83
Or it may simply have been circumstance that they were all black.

Even if the video is trying to promote "racial profiliing," it doesn't reflect on the pictures (whose captions have been explained).
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-09-06, 9:30 AM #84
Tempermental, yes, black people live in America. GET OVER IT. There are a LOT of blacks in NO, which is roughly 70% black. That just might have something to do with it. :rolleyes:
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-09-06, 1:54 PM #85
Originally posted by Temperamental:
To those that dont think there is at least some degree of subliminal racist message behind the pictures. Watch this video:

http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown-looting-in-walmart/


It's two police officers looting a local wal mart. But what is interesting about the video is that the only people shown looting are all black. Even the police are black.

If that's not subliminal racial profiling, I dont know what is.

I think the others pretty much tore you down, but yeah, more idiotic ignorance from Temperamental. What do you think they did? Cut out all the clips with white people looting?...For god's sakes man, you really WANT society to show racism don't you? You look for any stupid stretch to try and drag racial issues back to the front and stir up more racial problems. Your the kind of person that further deepens racial barriers with your idiotic bull****. Yes, all the looters were black...like someone else said, something like 70% of New Orleans is black. Get over it and grow up. Not everyone is out to get black people.
2005-09-06, 2:19 PM #86
You guys are the ignorant ones. I didnt call it direct racism. I said its SUBLIMINAL. THe media portrays blacks in that way purposely. You mean to tell me that even though the city is 70% white, not ONE looter shown is white? Give me a break and stop being so arrogant. I dont WANT society to show racism, it's already there.

As I said, it's subliminal. The media chooses what they want to film and what they want to put on the news.

Stop being such *******s.
2005-09-06, 2:41 PM #87
Originally posted by Temperamental:
THe media portrays blacks in that way purposely. You mean to tell me that even though the city is 70% white, not ONE looter shown is white?


But... only 30% of the city is white.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2005-09-06, 2:44 PM #88
You didn't get my point..

I said that you mean to tell me that in a city that is 70% black, although that fact is true, not ONE looter shown is white.
2005-09-06, 2:48 PM #89
Originally posted by Temperamental:
You didn't get my point..

I said that you mean to tell me that in a city that is 70% black, although that fact is true, not ONE looter shown is white.


Bull****, there were four whites in that video (and no, I'm not talking about the damn reporters :rolleyes: ). Get your eyes checked.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-09-06, 2:51 PM #90
Originally posted by Temperamental:
You didn't get my point..

I said that you mean to tell me that in a city that is 70% black, although that fact is true, not ONE looter shown is white.


You said "even though the city is 70% white," but I guess that's a typo. The fact is that the vast majority of white New Orleans citizens evacuated, so unless you've been sitting in your living room with four TVs on doing nothing but watching CNN, NBC, CBS and Fox since Monday, it shouldn't come as a surprise at all that no looter you've seen has been white.

Edit: Never mind, read Free's post instead of mine.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2005-09-06, 2:52 PM #91
Were they looting? No.

Actually, I should rephrase that... Were they SHOWN to be looting? No.

you just see them walking away form the camera, you never see a white person in that video actually looting the place.

The point im trying to make is that there IS some degree of racial profiling subliminally done in the media and newscasts. Whether you guys in your little wonderful world want to believe it or not, racism still exists, strongly. On top of that, racism in the media does exist as well.
2005-09-06, 2:54 PM #92
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Actually, I should rephrase that... Were they SHOWN to be looting? No.

you just see them walking away form the camera, you never see a white person in that video actually looting the place.


How about the very first guy he talks to?
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2005-09-06, 3:04 PM #93
You obviously dont understand the point of SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING.

The white guy wasnt SHOWN to be looting. He was seen walking away as the reporter tried to talk to him.

The ones that are actually SHOWN committing the act of looting, are all black.

That is subliminal messaging, not direct messaging.
2005-09-06, 3:23 PM #94
Originally posted by Temperamental:
You obviously dont understand the point of SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING.

The white guy wasnt SHOWN to be looting. He was seen walking away as the reporter tried to talk to him.

The ones that are actually SHOWN committing the act of looting, are all black.

That is subliminal messaging, not direct messaging.


Please, just stop arguing and watch the video again. The first man is white and is seen taking a shirt. The reporter asks him if he really needs it, and he does not walk away. He responds in the affirmative.

The reporter speaks to only two people in that video. One is white, one is black and a policewoman. Other people in the video, both white and black, are seen carrying various objects.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2005-09-06, 3:30 PM #95
Wow temp, I knew you were an idiot but I didn't know you were this stupid. Simply unbelievable.
2005-09-06, 3:39 PM #96
People do stuff like this all the time, either seeing what they want to see or completely disregarding anything that disporves their point because they can't to be shot down.
Pissed Off?
2005-09-06, 5:22 PM #97
No, I don't think there's a subliminal message of racism, especially since the majority of the media is freaking LIBERAL which is, last time I checked, the political party most African Americans attest to being, and the political party that mostly supports African Americans.

Jesus, stop being such a conspiracy theorist. Grow up dude.

Oh, and just so you know, your little 'threat' to post what you think about us doesn't really mean dick to me. Honestly, if there's one thing I've had plenty of, it's being criticized for things I do, made fun of for things I did, and I'm far past the stage where I care.
D E A T H
2005-09-06, 5:33 PM #98
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I actually LEARNED it in media class for film. The news you watch is selected, meaning the stories they choose to air are chosen and usually you hear about a black male doing something bad. You RARELY hear about a white male doing something, and it happens just as often with both colored races.

The newspaper you read is selected in order of what the newspaper editors consider important. Bull**** front page stories that should be in the classifides or after are chosen for front page events, etc.

Yoshi, it wasn't a threat. It was a fact.

Quote:
if there's one thing I've had plenty of, it's being criticized for things I do, made fun of for things I did


And I think you already covered yourself. :rolleyes: :p
2005-09-06, 5:41 PM #99
Originally posted by Temperamental:
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I actually LEARNED it in media class for film. The news you watch is selected, meaning the stories they choose to air are chosen and usually you hear about a black male doing something bad. You RARELY hear about a white male doing something, and it happens just as often with both colored races.


Is your local Fox affiliate is WKKK, or do you just keep count of the races of the people whose crimes are reported?

Your examples have been disproven. What evidence do you actually have that proves your claim?

Whoa, X-TREME futureposting.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-09-06, 5:52 PM #100
Take a course in media studies. That's my proof. That and google.
2005-09-06, 6:05 PM #101
Originally posted by Temperamental:
So you guys dont think that racism exists in the media? You don't think that there isn't at least some subliminal racism in media?

That's got to be one of hte most ignorant things I've ever heard.

Raoul, stop the dumb personal attacks. I'd post what I really thought of you and most people around here as well, but i'd definately be banned.

While there may be some racism in the media, it doesn't go to the extent you think of, and most importantly, it DOES NOT PERTAIN TO THIS EXAMPLE WHATSOEVER! Maybe if this news clip had come from a city where black people were a vast minority, and the reporter only shot black people stealing with maybe white people in the background stealing but not shot directly, maybe then you would have a case. But think about it! Most of the people are black! it's no friggin wonder that most looters will therefore be black. You just aren't listening to logic. As for your claims that the media only reprots black crimes, that is bull****! I see crimes commited by white people in the paper ALL THE TIME. You are just seeing what you want to see.
2005-09-06, 6:09 PM #102
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Were they looting? No.

Actually, I should rephrase that... Were they SHOWN to be looting? No.


What were they doing in there then? Handing out kittens and kissing babies? Get real, man.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-09-06, 6:10 PM #103
Originally posted by Temperamental:
That and google.


Ah. The classic "I can't be bothered to justify my position."
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-09-06, 6:13 PM #104
I never meant you never see white people committing crimes in news, i said the ones that are reported are the majority about black's. Hell, the media has distorted reality for people so much that most people believe that the most popular race in jails is blacks, when its not.

And clips can be edited, even when live.


Guys...the point I am trying to make is that its not what you hear, its what you see. It's SUBLIMINAL.

S U B L I M I N A L.
2005-09-06, 6:15 PM #105
Behind the scenes at CNN.

"No no no! That's all wrong! Cut that clip of the white guy stealing the shirt and put in that clip of OJ Simpsons on trial...yeah...that's nice...Now show some footage from C.O.P.S....Yeah that's it. Now digitally put a gun in that black guys hand. Mmm...What?! Wait...that cop is white? Oh well, we'll just digitally make her black later...Man, I sure do hate n***ers!"

Seriously...The media is not doing that on purpose. If it was all white guys stealing you wouldn't say crap. But since they are black..well then, it MUST be racist. People are always going to complain about SOMETHING being racist. Even if there was a white man stealing AND a black man stealing, someone would complain how the black man stealing was on the TV for .567 more seconds! Oooooooh! The fact is that the majority of the people in that store may have been black and the TV station just used what footage they could get. I don't think they hunted down just black people.
Think while it's still legal.
2005-09-06, 6:18 PM #106
[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]Behind the scenes at CNN.

"No no no! That's all wrong! Cut that clip of the white guy stealing the shirt and put in that clip of OJ Simpsons on trial...yeah...that's nice...Now show some footage from C.O.P.S....Yeah that's it. Now digitally put a gun in that black guys hand. Mmm...What?! Wait...that cop is white? Oh well, we'll just digitally make her black later...Man, I sure do hate n***ers!"

[/QUOTE]

My GF is interning at CNN right now. I'll ask her if that's the case. :p
Pissed Off?
2005-09-06, 6:20 PM #107
So you guys dont think that racism exists in the media? You don't think that there isn't at least some subliminal racism in media?

That's got to be one of hte most ignorant things I've ever heard.

Raoul, stop the dumb personal attacks. I'd post what I really thought of you and most people around here as well, but i'd definately be banned.
2005-09-06, 6:34 PM #108
Originally posted by Temperamental:
So you guys dont think that racism exists in the media? You don't think that there isn't at least some subliminal racism in media?

That's got to be one of hte most ignorant things I've ever heard.



I don't think there's no racism in the media, but I have to say that as long as you're on a racism trip you should take things like this into account before you go after television for subliminal message mind control conspiracies. It's just a little more plausible, and goes a long way toward enlarging that 70% figure. :p
2005-09-06, 6:40 PM #109
Originally posted by Temperamental:
So you guys dont think that racism exists in the media? You don't think that there isn't at least some subliminal racism in media?

That's got to be one of hte most ignorant things I've ever heard.

Raoul, stop the dumb personal attacks. I'd post what I really thought of you and most people around here as well, but i'd definately be banned.


Actually, the thought that "Whitey's out to get Darky" is quite a bit more ignorant. Yeah, the media is selected, I know that much. It's selected to give the most sensationalistic and terrifying stories so they get more viewers. And most crimes in the US are committed by African Americans, especially violent and drug related crimes...which happen to be the most sensationalistic and terrifying ones.

GASP! AWE! It's not the media, it's the fact that an African American carjacking a man at gunpoint is a lot more interesting than a white guy who embezzled money in his white collar job.
D E A T H
2005-09-06, 7:24 PM #110
Originally posted by Temperamental:
I never meant you never see white people committing crimes in news, i said the ones that are reported are the majority about black's. Hell, the media has distorted reality for people so much that most people believe that the most popular race in jails is blacks, when its not.


yet another assumed fact from the delusional temperamental! Unfortunatly this one is wrong to!

"At midyear 2004 there were 4,919 black male prison and jail inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,717 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 717 white male inmates per 100,000 white males."

HMMM! Jee it looks like the most popular race in jail IS blacks. You see your problem here man? YOU are the one looking at it from a distorted perspective! You just don't know what you are talking about in the least!
2005-09-06, 7:33 PM #111
Im not going to post any facts, if you all want them, go look then up yourselves. I stand by my statement that there is a certain ammount of racial profiling in the media. And that's that.

Now stop the stupid name calling and stuff, its pointless and proves nothing.
2005-09-06, 7:42 PM #112
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Im not going to post any facts, if you all want them, go look then up yourselves. I stand by my statement that there is a certain ammount of racial profiling in the media. And that's that.

Now stop the stupid name calling and stuff, its pointless and proves nothing.


The closest you've come to "proving anything" is saying that the media selects what is shown on the news. Thanks for info, but that's a no brainer. It does not mean that what is selected to be shown to the viewer has any racial implications. Your saying that it does is a huge jump in logic.
Pissed Off?
2005-09-06, 7:45 PM #113
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Im not going to post any facts, if you all want them, go look then up yourselves. I stand by my statement that there is a certain ammount of racial profiling in the media. And that's that.

Now stop the stupid name calling and stuff, its pointless and proves nothing.

Yet all your claims on WHY the media is racist has been smashed to bits. First you claimed that the reporters only picked and chose black people to show looting, when infact it was proven that not only is it extremely likely that they would be all black, considering the population, but there WAS a white looter shown.

Second you claim that the media creates a one sided view of crime by showing black crimes alot more, so much show that it might *gasp* make people think that black people are actually the most predominant race in prison. Once again it was proven that they are, which would make the medias coverage of black crimes pretty much right. So whats your argument man? Your just clutching to straws and a bull**** theory. It seems to me you don't want a REAL argument...you just want to wallow in your ignorance and don't want anyone to assail your bull**** theory of how the world works. In that case, go argue with a wall..it would be a much better suited opponent anyways.

Also, I clearly did "look the facts up myself" and yours are wrong...why did you write that?
2005-09-06, 7:56 PM #114
Pssh, if you guys read Yahoo News, you'd know that the whites don't loot, they FIND! Silly. :rolleyes:

Disclaimer: If you are offended by this, you should go look up that Yahoo News YTMND so you know what I'm referring too.

2005-09-06, 7:57 PM #115
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Im not going to post any facts...


Why? Is your position so fragile and baseless that you can't be bothered to look up the evidence yourself, for fear of finding out there really is no reliable source of information that supports your stance?

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p02.pdf

Page 9:

Quote:
When incarceration rates are estimated separately by age group, black males in their twenties and thirties are found to have high rates relative to other groups (table 14). Expressed in percentages, 10.4% of black males age 25 to 29 were in prison on December 31, 2002, compared to 2.4% of Hispanic males and about 1.2% of white males in the same age group. Although incarceration rates drop with age, the percentage of black males age 45 to 54 in prison in 2002 was nearly 2.3% only slightly lower than the highest rate (2.4%) among Hispanic males (age 30 to 34) and more than twice the highest rate (1.3%) among white males (age 30 to 34).


Or is the justice system unfairly prejudiced against black people?
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-09-06, 7:59 PM #116
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Im not going to post any facts, if you all want them, go look then up yourselves. I stand by my statement that there is a certain ammount of racial profiling in the media. And that's that.


Wait wait wait. So what you're saying is you refuse to defend your own position.

...

......

.............................oook.

You do realize that you automatically lose now, right?

2005-09-06, 8:09 PM #117
Originally posted by The_Mega_ZZTer:
Pssh, if you guys read Yahoo News, you'd know that the whites don't loot, they FIND! Silly. :rolleyes:

Disclaimer: If you are offended by this, you should go look up that Yahoo News YTMND so you know what I'm referring too.


And if you look up this...

Originally posted by Jedigreedo:
"We came, we saw, we conquered, we...woke up!"
2005-09-06, 8:19 PM #118
Hay guyz, Temperamental may have a point!

http://wolfblitzer.ytmnd.com/
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-09-06, 8:46 PM #119
Originally posted by Temperamental:
Im not going to post any facts, if you all want them, go look then up yourselves. I stand by my statement that there is a certain ammount of racial profiling in the media. And that's that.


Positive claim, burden of proof, fill in the blanks.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2005-09-07, 2:55 PM #120
Originally posted by Wolfy:
Hay guyz, Temperamental may have a point!

http://wolfblitzer.ytmnd.com/


Oh...your...God....hahaha
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