..And so begins the Massassi "Love Wars"...

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.
:wq

Love war... Somebody think of the GBKs! Wont somebody please think of the GBKs?!?!

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The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.

[This message has been edited by Spork (edited May 23, 2004).]

lol, usually when dudes need to prove to an online community full of computer nerds that they are Rico Suave, they usually arent, and think that a kiss on a check makes them fabio

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

So posting a collage of nine pictures of your abs to an online community full of computer nerds makes you......?

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The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.

[This message has been edited by Spork (edited May 23, 2004).]

You have two black guys comfused Spork.

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

Oh I do too. Sorry, my bad

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The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.

lol, no problem.

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

I'm reminded of a quote from somewheres:

"The guys who talk about it the most, get it the least"

...at which point you'll be playing a whole new ball game. Up from the Minor Leagues and into the Big Leagues...but it won't be a game any more and THAT will be the difference.

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Try not, do; or do not.

[This message has been edited by Friend14 (edited May 24, 2004).]

Trust me, bro.... This works in real life.

Try it and see what happens. You will start noticing results quickly, and if you don't, you can always go back until you reach a certain point, after which you will be stuck on one side or the other. This point of no return is when your mindset starts to change after experiencing perpetual success with these methods. My point of no return happened years ago.

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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited May 24, 2004).]

I've never had to follow any of this crap, and have never stayed single longer than a few months. It may work, but it's not necessary at all.

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When guitars are outlawed, only outlaws will have guitars.

Some people are lucky. They learn the skills naturally. Others never learn this info early enough in life, and they need to use tactics like these to catch up. Once the tactics are learned well enough, they are assimilated and become part of the individual's basic mindset and personality. This is what happened to me (and probably Kieran, since our methods are so similar). Once this happens, natural ability becomes indistinguishable from acquired skills.

Acquired skill is maybe even better b/c an adept learns nearly EVERYTHING that there is to know, where a natural has effective but noncomprehensive skills. A natural may not know how to handle a certain situation, but a fully trained adept should be able to handle them all.

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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.


[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited May 24, 2004).]

Again, I point back to my point of this only working with girls under the age of 25. It DOES NOT work with women.

[edit]Corrected to explimplify and simplify...umm...on the...priery high...super fly...yeah.


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Try not, do; or do not.

[This message has been edited by Friend14 (edited May 24, 2004).]

do you have proof of this? My own experience is quite the opposite.

This is LESS likely to work with girls < 20.

The reason is that they are so immature and flaky. However, this tends to level out after age 18, though.

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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited May 24, 2004).]

Your experience is that of a boy...not a man.

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Try not, do; or do not.

again.. how can you be sure? I have my experience, that is how I know.

Maybe you just dont want to admit that Kieran and I are right. You're not even addressing my arguments.



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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

...and I have my experience.



I did address the points, how about actually READING ALL of my posts, not just the selective bits of it that you choose...

...basically, if you don't get it yet, these "techniques" only work for less then 1/8 of your life-time. And it's wasted on girls...not women...but girls.

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Try not, do; or do not.

[This message has been edited by Friend14 (edited May 24, 2004).]

Keiran, read this. It might give you some understanding as to why Kirby is right.

nice little covert insult there...

My point was, you're referring to women by a single physical feature. Whether you intended it as a joke or not, I find it offensive. You may think I'm completely overreacting, but that's how I feel.

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/end boob rant

They're guidelines, designed to make you the incredibly appealing mid point between being a really nice guy who they think they want to go out with and the utter jerk who they actually want to go out with.

Any tips on how to get beyond the second hurdle? (i.e. when to first kiss, etc... not that I need it...)

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tristan is the best friend of the jedi

"I am the signature virus! Copy me into your signature so that I can take over the world! Moohahahee!"

No one said anything about LOVE!!!! Jeez calm down, no wonder you're not getting any...

To be honest you wont get any girls if you act like a carpet, you want to be slightly jerkish, but also be a slightly real person so that they actually like you more in the long run.

And common courtesy is a yes, but however additionally polite and complimentary you think you should be, halve that.

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tristan is the best friend of the jedi

"I am the signature virus! Copy me into your signature so that I can take over the world! Moohahahee!"

I think guidelines #31 was missed out:

31. If you're a "nice guy" and reading these guidelines, your best bet is to take them on board but make sure you don't degenerate into the kind of person you used to hate. You can "play the game" without being a manipulative little sod. It's when you start actively thinking "right, I need a strategy" when things go a bit icky.

Because he thinks this thread is completely foolish, and doesn't believe all this crap is the science these guys are making it out to be, he doesnt get any? :rolleseyes:

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

Holy generalization, Batman!

The way I see it goes like this:
If I have to follow these stupid stretegies for somebody to like being with me, I don't want to be around them anyway. Whats with all these silly little "rules" and crap you have to follow? Geez, I'd just want somebody who I can be myself around and they can be theirselves. I guess that's asking a bit too much of this miserable species, eh?

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Do you have stairs in your house?

As soon as you use the word "strategy" in a relationship, you're not in a relationship.

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<]-[ellequin> Nothing is quite as satisfying as placing a .177 lead pellet in between the eyes of a cat.
<]-[ellequin> I think I will leave it's corpse there, to warn all the other cats to keep out of my hibiscus patch

Live on, Adam.

I always thought there was a difference between talking to women and confidence... I have confidence and women generally hate me when they approach me.

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Drugs & Stupidity, Tons of it.

Yes, because playing guessing games make everyone comfortable in the relationship.

People like you shouldn't be allowed to go out in public: Learn how to have a normal relationship with a human being, let alone a woman.

JediKirby

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<]-[ellequin> Nothing is quite as satisfying as placing a .177 lead pellet in between the eyes of a cat.
<]-[ellequin> I think I will leave it's corpse there, to warn all the other cats to keep out of my hibiscus patch

Live on, Adam.

On another note, follow my guidelines instead of reading 30 steps and you'll be successful.

Go to club.

Be hot.

Wait till women approaches you. (or just ask a girl for a kiss to be cheeky)

Dance.

[Imagination]

Phone Number.

Repeat.

Multiple girlfriends are fine unless you're planning on going out with em for over a year or something.

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Drugs & Stupidity, Tons of it.

Fixed.

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There is no signature

HAHAHAHA... ever heard of a nympho? HAVE YOU?

This thread needs some Dr. Phil.



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Current Maps | Inclusion | Restless Endeavor

There is a thin line between insanity and stupidity. I am that line.

I'm not trying to prove anything. This is for your benefit, not mine. I really couldn't care one way or the other if you use those guidelines or not. I'm going to be doing the same thing and being just as happy regardless of what you do.

I wouldn't know because I haven't dated someone that "old". But I won't be suprised if nothing changes.

So you believe in love at first sight? Because I don't. If I remember correctly my guidelines are about meeting women, not relationships.

*raises eyebrow* yes, I enjoy going around and making little hidden insults at people. It gives meaning to my life.

Carpet = bad, but so is being jerkish. Don't let yourself be a carpet and don't treat them like a carpet.

copy, paste, tweak.

*passes hand over head* Whoosh!

once again, *passes hand over head* whoosh! Don't people read anymore? The problem is most guys don't act like themselves around women. These GUIDELINES(stop referring to them as rules. they aren't) are to help you do that.

I agree with that

Yes I have. And they don't exist. What people refer to as a nympho are usually women with abnormally and fluctuatingly high and low sex drives(even compared to guys) due to some sort of trauma in the past. And Dr. Drew could whoop Dr. Phil any day.

Also, for the love of God, stop bringing relationships into this. My guidelines have nothing to do with relationships. They are purely about meeting women. That's it. It's a real simple concept.

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Is Wayne Brady going to have to choke a *****?

Then your silly list should look something like this:

1 - Be yourself.
2 - Let her be herself.
3 - If you like eachother, awesome. Otherwise, go find somebody else.

Because I can't follow both set of "guidelines." If I want to be myself, I'm already breaking like 90% of your rules... guidelines...whatever.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

[This message has been edited by Correction (edited May 24, 2004).]

Indeed. Meeting women is not synomonous (sp?) with relationships.




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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

Then what the hell do you meet people for? Wait, nevermind, just go away.



I don't act myself around my friends.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

[This message has been edited by Correction (edited May 24, 2004).]

Correction, I would love to have the list be that short. But some people just don't get it. From the looks of this thread, I probably need a 100 item list just for some people to understand what I'm saying.

Do you have a girlfriend Correction or have you in the past? Did/Do you act around her like you do your friends?

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Is Wayne Brady going to have to choke a *****?

[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited May 24, 2004).]

Social interaction. I shouldn't have to clarify this, but when we say relationship, we mean bf/gf/love/whatever relationship.

that is your first problem right there. If you are fake, you need to stop. Friends will accept you for who you are. If you are shy, get over it.

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Is Wayne Brady going to have to choke a *****?

then what do you do, put on a show and pretend to be something you're not?

I don't have to put on a show b/c I AM what these guidelines describe. I've basically rebuilt my mindset around them, and they are a part of who I am now. It happens naturally, I don't have to do anything extra to apply these guidelines at this point.


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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited May 24, 2004).]

Many people do that, Page, although if you do you really need to get yourself some new friends.

[Edit] Darn you, Kieran

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"No good can ever come from staying with normal people"
-Outlaw Star
"Some people play tennis. I erode the human soul"
-Tycho, Penny Arcade
"I'm a Cannabal-Vegitarian. I will BBQ an employee if there is no veggie option"
-DX:IW
A Knight's Tail
Exile: A Tale of Light in Dark
The Never Ending Story²[/i]

[This message has been edited by Noble Outlaw (edited May 24, 2004).]

clarify.



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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.