He just said what I said page.

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Is Wayne Brady going to have to choke a *****?

People have a habit of putting on an act around otehr people in order to be more accepted, in order to be part of the 'in' crowd, so to speak.

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"No good can ever come from staying with normal people"
-Outlaw Star
"Some people play tennis. I erode the human soul"
-Tycho, Penny Arcade
"I'm a Cannabal-Vegitarian. I will BBQ an employee if there is no veggie option"
-DX:IW
A Knight's Tail
Exile: A Tale of Light in Dark
The Never Ending Story²[/i]

Right, but once you assimilate these guidelines, You won't have to do that anymore. You won't have to worry about fitting into the "in" crowd, with your new mindset, it is incredibly easy to REDEFINE the "in" crowd and reshape it into what you want. This applies more in a high school setting, but later in life, it is still easily within your power to set the trends.

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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited May 24, 2004).]

I think of it less of an assimilation of the guidelines and more like a realization of yourself.

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

I was jsut talking about what correction said about how he isn't himself around his friends, but whatever...

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"No good can ever come from staying with normal people"
-Outlaw Star
"Some people play tennis. I erode the human soul"
-Tycho, Penny Arcade
"I'm a Cannabal-Vegitarian. I will BBQ an employee if there is no veggie option"
-DX:IW
A Knight's Tail
Exile: A Tale of Light in Dark
The Never Ending Story²[/i]

. . .
"Don't be fake, act yourself."
"Base your life on these guidlines."

They conflict.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

The guidelines illustrate how you would act around women if you weren't nervous, intimidated, etc. Unless you normally act nervous, intimidated, etc. Then you have bigger problems.

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited May 24, 2004).]

Not if you first redefine yourself based on the guidelines, and then be yourself based on what you learned.

The Just-be-yourself idea only works in the above situation. Any other application of J.b.y. is just a terrible misleading lie.



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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

True. The best part about absorbing these guidelines (And I assimilated them the way I learned it, kieran may have learned it differently) is that once you have it, you will experience perpetual self-actualization.

It goes beyond women, these guidelines can change your whole personality and ultimately your life.

You start to exhibit these qualities all the time, not just around women. The world gives nothing to nice guys, but it treats its confident people well. Opportunities will open up for you that were closed off when you were a nice guy. People will take more notice of you. You will get ahead quickly.

My experience has had a definite positive effect on my personality. I used to be depressed sometimes, but ever since I assimilated all of this stuff and took it to mind, I haven't been really depressed one day in over 4 years. It's like a perpetual high that just won't quit. Depression can't touch me. Rejection can't touch me. I appreciate life more. I'm more focused. i'm more creative.

Best of all, it cost me nothing.

Compared to this, I consider the ability to get women with it to be a mere fringe benefit.

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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

"I want to just be myself."
"Then become somebody else and be that."

Ermmm...



All I'm saying is that why do we always have to make things so complicated? I don't understand why as a species we play this stupid little social games with eachother. Why can't I just be myself to somebody, and if they like me they can hang around and if they don't they can leave?

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Do you have stairs in your house?

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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

That was sortof a rhetorical question. YOU people are the ones making it complicated.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

[This message has been edited by Correction (edited May 24, 2004).]

OK OK everybody calm it.

The guidelines were for meeting people. Not for relationships.

Just be yourself means act relaxed, not act yourself.

They're guidelines, stick to them if you want and ignore them if you want. They will help you get girls, so I leave that decision up to you.

Finally this thread was not started to start an argument, it's here for your literary pleasure and perhaps your literal pleasure if you put it mildly into play.

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tristan is the best friend of the jedi

"I am the signature virus! Copy me into your signature so that I can take over the world! Moohahahee!"

And I'm just asking the "experts" why we should follow guildelines to meet people. Why can't we just be ourselves, and I mean that literally. I don't understand why it has to be complicated at all... a person shouldn't even have to think about it. I think society has turned the whole thing into something it's not.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

That is the way it should be. But in the meeting of people, culture and tradition has taken over instinct.

exactly. And I'm trying to help counter-act that.

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited May 24, 2004).]

If you follow these guidelines, you'll get girls. Girls who are about as see-through as the glass of light beer they'll be holding when you walk up to them.

Horrible list, and not to be taken seriously.

JediKirby

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<]-[ellequin> Nothing is quite as satisfying as placing a .177 lead pellet in between the eyes of a cat.
<]-[ellequin> I think I will leave it's corpse there, to warn all the other cats to keep out of my hibiscus patch

Live on, Adam.

I think the point being made is that things like this (the list) ARE what are turning the world into something it's not.

This list is encouraging people to take on a new persona, which fools girls into thinking they're people they're not.

The point correction is trying to make (I think, correct me if I'm wide of the mark correction) is that why should we be anything but ourselves when trying to meet new women/men? If that ain't good enough, why should following some guidelines make it better? If we aren't good enough being ourselves will we ever be good enough for that person, and if not, who gives a flying ****?

/Doesn't care any more - this is getting silly.

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

Can I hire you as a spokesperson? I've been needing one for a long time 'cause I can never say things and have them sound like what I'm trying to say...

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Do you have stairs in your house?

I don't know how you are getting that because that is not my experiance.

Martyn: Yes, act like yourself around women. But how many guys do you know act like clingy, needy, nervous wussies normally and with friends? Acting like yourself seems like a simple concept but evidently it is harder to understand. My guidelines assume you aren't easily intimidated and pay for attention when you are around your friends and family. All my guidelines do is take the old dating adages such as "There are more fish in the sea" and "Just be yourself"(with the above assumption) and breaks them down into easier to grasp examples. It is beyond me how some people still can't manage to understand what it is saying. But, whatever. Take these guidelines how you want. I have and I have a very fulfilling life. If something else actually works for you, then go for it. To each his own.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited May 24, 2004).]

Are you married?

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<]-[ellequin> Nothing is quite as satisfying as placing a .177 lead pellet in between the eyes of a cat.
<]-[ellequin> I think I will leave it's corpse there, to warn all the other cats to keep out of my hibiscus patch

Live on, Adam.

No. And don't try any "Well married people know more than anyone else" stuff. They can settle with someone they aren't totally happy with as much as anyone else can(*points to 52% divorce rate*). That's besides the point that marriage is a relationship and I'm not talking about relationships. I'm talking about meeting women(as I've stated several times)

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited May 24, 2004).]

Well gee if you want to meet a woman just say hi. I think it's pretty obvious you're talking about meeting a woman with the intent of having a potential relationship... if not and really all you're talking about is something, then like I said before go away.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

That is what I've been saying. But it also depends on how you greet a woman. If you are nervous and gitty it will show and it isn't very attractive. But if you are calm, secure, and friendly you are going to create a better impression on her. In fact, that isn't just advice for meeting women. That is advice for meeting anyone whither it be potential employer, your girlfriends dad, or the police officer that just caught you doing 60 in a residential zone.

Just say it. Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex. I haven't burst into flames yet. And so what if you want to have a potential relationship with a woman or you just want someone to talk to? There is no difference in how you act and present yourself.

I'm still confused about where we are disagreeing.

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited May 24, 2004).]

Your list doesn't portray meeting a girl. It obviously states calling them, setting up more dates, and developing a relationship with them. Don't make me go back and pick out the points that bluntly suggest this. These are outragous suggestions on how to completelly ruin any chance you have at meeting a decent girl, or having a decent relationship with current ones. Few people seem to be in agreement with you, and those that are, well, you yourself said they'd prefer taking their wang out and flashing it at a female.

I'm sick of arguing something that's so bloody obvious. This isn't even some religious discussion, it's an obvious analysis of a list of suggestions. Stop defending your points, because it's all in plain english on the first page.

I'm done posting in this thread.

JediKirby

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<]-[ellequin> Nothing is quite as satisfying as placing a .177 lead pellet in between the eyes of a cat.
<]-[ellequin> I think I will leave it's corpse there, to warn all the other cats to keep out of my hibiscus patch

Live on, Adam.

So basically these are tips for getting laid. Pig.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

[This message has been edited by Correction (edited May 24, 2004).]

I dont need your stupid list!

#1 I may post at massassi but that dont mean I'm a huge freakin Dweeb

#2 The list cant apply to EVERY stuation and ALL potential women

#3 I have a girl and she's hotter than any of you can imagine!!! SO nyaaaaah on you!!

[edit] jinx we'll break up now tx to my stupid gloating

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

I agree with a lot of the tips, and I don't even follow them.

My list has nothing to do with developing a relationship. It does the calling and setting up a date part. Which is meeting women.

Then there are a lot of people out there that can get outrageous suggestions to work

There were quite a few that made short statements such as "Good List". And I was having a joke with pagewizard. God forbid I do that.

wait, you criticize my list, but I can't defend it? How does the work? And it's obvious I still have more work to do. If it was in plain english you would understand it.

How did you get that out of me joking with your avoidance of the word "sex"? That's jacked up. "Oh he says "sex" alot, so that MUST mean thats all he wants from a girl." Huh?

I never said anyone here was a dweeb. In fact, I bet most people here aren't dweebs.

thus the word "guidelines"

Good for you. I wish you a long and happy relationship.

But seriously, I'm suprised at some of the people here. While funny, it is disturbing how people can take a comment and make something out of it that is completely opposite, even when I draw in crayon what the comment means. Seriously, are you guys just trying to jack with me and try and piss me off or you actually not getting it? Has reading a post half-***ed become a trend here or something? I know there is no way some of you guys are reading my entire post just by some of the comments you make. We are on the same page yet you keep fighting against me. I can guarantee you if people would just set aside their protective little fantasies where "nice"(i put quotes for a reason) guys attract all the women and become a bit more open minded, they would realize I'm right. And I'm hurting that protective bubble people(specifically jedikirby) has so they stomp off like an angery child who's just been told Santa Claus doesn't exist. There is absolutely no reason to do that unless *shock* you realize I'm right but you don't want to admit to yourself or anyone else.

If this thread is going to die, let me leave one last thought: I've been that "nice" guy who is always confused on why he is always the friend instead of the boyfriend. I did all the things women say they want after all. You know what I'm talking about. The friend that the girl always cries to because her bf is mean. You always spend a lot of money and time on a girl, but then nothing comes out of it. You always get the "I like you only as a friend" speech or something else happens that you know is off. I was that guy. But I had the wisdom to realize there must be something I was doing wrong. So I found out what the jerk guys did. But I didn't want to be a jerk in order to be attractive to women. That's when I figured out that I don't have to be. I can have those desirable traits from both the jerks and the "nice" guys(such as being confident and polite) while filtering out the bad traits(such as being abusive or wishy-washy) I know it doesn't seem like such a simple thing exists, but once you understand it, you smack yourself in the forehead and wonder why you didn't see before. But I can tell some people(not everyone who disagreed with me) here aren't ready for any sort of discovery just because of the pure denial and irrationality some people think with. Question my list all you want, but if you just out-and-out deny something, you will never learn. Maybe you will come to the realizations I have had on your own. Hopefully it is sooner rather than later when you don't have a chance to make a difference in yourself. I was just trying to speed it along. You can't blame me for trying to help.

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

Conclusion: Pagewizard and Kerian are delusional psychotics and should be punished.

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Flibbledy-dibbledy! Nyaaaaaaaahhh!

-The Last True Evil

Yeah, that sounds like something they would say. But I'm not sure if you mean that seriously or as a joke. Kind of creepy.

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

#1 I may post at massassi but that dont mean I'm a huge freakin Dweeb

No, but it does make you a nerd. Amoung other things....

#2 The list cant apply to EVERY stuation and ALL potential women

True, but its still a good list.

#3 I have a girl and she's hotter than any of you can imagine!!! SO nyaaaaah on you!!

I dont have to imagine.

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.
:wq

Or maybe you only think you've changed your life, but in reality you've just deluded yourself.

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Flibbledy-dibbledy! Nyaaaaaaaahhh!

-The Last True Evil

Please. I have enough proof and experiance to know I'm not deluded.

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The sooner you realize I'm right the better off you will be.

Damn straight.

Look on the bright side... more women for us.




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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.