Well, I really don't think that they would clone wash.. that woul dbe stupid, and Zoe would hate the idea. Then again people were probably saying the same thing when Spock died in Wrath of Kahn. Anyway, I also heard that the actor who played Wash came up with the idea himself... when the series started he told Joss "Wouldn't it be messed up if you just killed my charactor off in the 2nd season?" I guess the film took the place of the 2nd season.

What? Spock dies in Wrath of Khan? Now you've ruined it for me.

I'm just saying that I don't think they could clone him, even if they wanted to.
If the thing about Alan Tudyk suggesting the death is true, then, well... that's cool. But, why would he want to put himself out of a job ?

Maybe he's scared of committment.

well, he has had plenty of jobs... I, Robot and Dodgeball to name a couple... I really don't think he was thinking about the money when he suggested it... i dunno.... BTW, I put that thing about Spock in a spoiler tag!!

Well the movie came out here yesterday.

I only first saw Firefly last Sunday when Sci-fi had a marathon run that weekend. I only caught 3 episodes, loved it, then Dud got me a bit hyped on it somehow. :p

Saw it with some mates this afternoon, and 'twas awesome. Picked up the series on DVD on the way home since they didn't have it in on Thursday.

Hurrah!

And yes, I can't believe Wash died.

I saw the movie last night, and I thought it was pretty damn good. I'm interested in what the series is about now. Never even heard of it outside of massassi.

I just got back from seeing Serenity. It was cool, but seemed quite unepic. It seemed more like a season premiere than a feature film.

The show, and the movie to a somewhat lesser extent, isn't supposed to be epic. It's the story of 9 people, trying to stay alive. Looking for and taking jobs where they can, keeping one step ahead of the feds.

It's not about saving the universe, which makes it so much different than.. pretty much every other show/movie.

But the suspension they built up over the series made it seem like it would be epic. And "it's not supposed to be epic" is kind of a weak argument. Things are epic because they're better that way. It doesn't have to be about saving the universe, the truth about the reavers could have been more shocking or more important. So the Alliance accidentally created reavers 12 years ago. Woohoo. It's not like they did it 200 years ago and they are an enemy that control half the galaxy or something.

Leave it to Emon to be the first to ruin the movie by not using spoiler tags... thanks... now we gotta change the topic name

I fixed it. And you know, it's not like you have to read all the way through the paragraph. Just stop at the first sign of spoilers.

Last night Buck and I went to dinner with a friend who was back from college, and he bought the DVD set. Three episodes later, I was hooked. The show is amazing, it's so unique, with the combination of humor, sci fi action, drama, etc. Honestly, I was blown away by it's quality. It defied the cliches, totally turning those stock situations on it's head. I need to finish the series first, then I will definitely have to go see Serenity.

My guess is that the epicness would be told over other movies and possibly another series. Joss certainly has the stories in his head. He works that way.

And in terms of the movie being like a "season opener," it's because Joss wheadon did something unique. He made a movie that people who hadn't seen the series could watch and understand. There aren't alot of movies based on TV shows and such that effectively do that, serenity does it VERY nicely.

(Disclaimer: Very little of this post makes sense, I'm too rushed to think straight!)

Well, I didn't manage to see it on Thursday... or Friday... or Saturday (other people letting me down and just too much to do) so Sunday afternoon I just went to see it on my own.

3pm showing, pretty empty, got half a row to myself and got ready. I was actually shaking!!

I did love it (as in - laughed, cried, constantly aware that I was making too much noise for a person alone at the cinema!), but something about it just didn't sit quite right with me. I remember reading a review last week (generally been getting a good reception over here, which is promising) that said it still felt like a tv series, which I think I agree with. Obviously alot more happened than in any one (or two) of the shows, but it still felt like a brief snapshot, rather than a stand alone film (which I suppose is good if the trilogy is gonna happen). All the major events the deaths, Kaylee and Simon, the whole Reaver storyline in general just felt really rushed, and could easily have been prolonged by Joss into an entire second season. I'm desperate to see it again (was going to go tonight, got let down again - hopefully tomorrow) partly because I just feel like I can't possibly have seen it all yet.

The humour and relationships between the characters felt really forced compared to Firefly - obviously they had to make it so that people who hadn't seen the series would still get everything in the film, but I'm not sure that translating the close-knit feeling of the characters worked on the big screen. Perhaps it is just because there are so many main characters and not enough time to develop them all properly.

Happydud's advice to Archimedes is right, to really get the film, you have to see the show, which is kind of a shame as I think it will limit the film's success (and ultimately, that's the only thing that can keep the dream aliiiiive!)

Okay, big things/ Wash and Book. I wouldn't go so far to say I saw Book's death coming, but it was easy to deal with. He'd made little appearance in the film and was never one of the most central characters. Still made me sad though. But Wash... I think when the spike first went through I just blinked at the screen, not really believing it. I have no idea what Mal and Zoe said during that bit because I was just in shock. I felt tears coming on but then everything got so hectic and I was on the edge of my seat for so long that I didn't have the chance to cry. But, in front of the graves, I welled up again and it was actually the sight of Zoe in the dress that really tipped me over the edge. Their relationship was great. Having said that - this does give Whedon some interesting options about where to go with her character in the future.

I was actually somewhat surprised by the storyline in general. I mean, the fact that it was about Reavers wasn't a shock, but I expected more River from what I saw in the trailers. I dunno, I suppose it was just having the whole mystery of the Reavers cleaned up so quickly that threw me, after having watched all 12 hours or so of Firefly last week. Yeah, thinking about it, that's definitely my main problem with it all. Just too much going on in way too short a time. But I guess that's movies for you.

ok, here's what I think about it...

"It seems like a TV show" = well, you DO realize that this is Weaton's FIRST film... all he has EVER done is Television. Most directors I know don't go from Television to movies.. so this could be a BIG part of it.

"It wasn't epic" = it really isn't supposta be. The movie follows the crew. You don't get shots of what is happening through the galaxy, you only see what the crew sees. Not really an epic story... more of a "confined" type story that adds to the feel of the movie. (There were some scenes of the galaxy responding to the video ORIGINALY in the movie at the advanced screenings they had, but I guess he cut it out for time, and it made the story leave Serenity for a bit... which wouldn't really fit in with the rest of the movie.)

Spiral. PM me about them. NOW.

Alright, I did buy the series DVD, just as I said I would. I've watched every episode, so now I need to go see the movie again, hopefully in the next 3 days.