I thank God every day that my city imposed a ban on smoking in all public buildings. It was the best. decision. ever.

Now, my university is talking about banning smoking on campus indoor and OUT. I hope they do. If it happens, it will become the first university ever to do so. Smokers, deal with it.

You let people take your cigarettes? Now who's the weiner?

:p

[QUOTE=Darth Evad]smoking in the face of [...] pesticides and herbicides on everything we eat... smoking is the least of our troubles.[/QUOTE]Most plants produce natural toxins to kill pests and infections. Without the application of pesticides and herbicides to the surface (which can easily be washed off), the parts we eat become saturated with natural poisons. It's actually healthier to eat poison-covered fruit out of a commercial farm than it is to eat so-called "organic" foods.

Iron Maiden! I was at Ozzfest '05 over the summer and Bruce Dickinson had the following conversation with the crowd:

BD: "You people having fun!?"
Crowd: Loud Drunken Roar
BD: "You been smokin!?" (cigarettes)
Crowd: Loud Drunken Roar
BD: "You been smokin' dope!?"
Crowd: I don't think anyone was, but people yelled for the hell of it
BD: "I ****ing hate dope!!!
Crowd: Muttered Confusion
BD: "Rock isn't about chillin' out, it's about energy!!! If you want to ****ing smoke dope, go to a ****ing Dave Matthews concert!!!1"
Crowd: Deafening Sonic Boom that levels trees for miles as fans begin rioting and explosions send people flying flaming through the air to their d00MS!

yeah it was pretty sweet, and mildly relevant

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]Real men chew gum.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. Smoking sucks. Stop it already.

Chewing gum is really gross, chewing gum I hate the most.

Still, smoking is nasty. Cigarettes at least. Pipe tobacco smells nice (not smoked). I haven't tried smoking anything as of yet.

Just wait until your boss orders you to get down on all fours and scrape old chewing gum off the parking lot. I spent an afternoon doing that once, and my intense hatred for chewing gum grew.

Haha *puff* You people make me laugh. *puff puff* :p

[QUOTE=Darth Evad]take your head out of your *** and next time you get on the bus with some ignorant ****ing pig that is slathered in smelly crap tell him you're not allowed to smoke on the bus for the sake of other people's health, why should he/she be allowed to fill my lungs with volitiles of some unknown mixture for 30 minutes while i sit beside him?[/QUOTE]
Take your head out of your *** and don't listen to e-mail hoaxes and snail mail brochures on why consumer products are bad. Get your information from real sources, such as peer-reviewed scientific journals, not some hogwash garbage in the mail which is supported by evidence that is anecdotal at best. Some of those stupid things mention studies at universities that don't even exist. Or hell, even a local newspaper will provide you with more accurate information. These "organic" movements are a step in the wrong direction. Just because something is all natural doesn't make it better. Some of the most deadly toxins and chemical solvents are organic compounds.

My Aunt is dead set on this "organic" and "natural" crap. She went to some conference where some "doctors" talked about how bad so many consumer personal products were. She said, "oh but they're DOCTORS!" ...yeah, so? I could have a PhD in computer science and that doesn't mean ****.

My roommate stays away from prescription medications, instead using homeopathic and herbal treatments. Homeopathy, by the defition if the word, is scientifically impossible. It does not work.

[QUOTE=Hell Raiser]Haha *puff* You people make me laugh. *puff puff* :p[/QUOTE]


Are you smoking a cigar now?

Nah, another one of the Mrs' light 100's with the filter cut in half. :p

I'm going to go outside and have a Camel Filter here in a bit...

It would be nice if I could sit in a bar and do that, but alas, apparantly the feds are concerned with the health of people attending bars... considering, you know, so much activity at a bar is "healthy" anyway...

you do realize that all cigarettes are toasted, right?

Hey people, lets not forget, I'm still out of my yummy Menthol ciggarettes. :p

Yes, and the withdrawal symptoms are affecting your spelling. :p

Smart man.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]Real men chew gum.[/QUOTE]

Amen Sajn. Amen.

I thought they were smoked?

anecdotal. i can name 20 people who were raised in houses with both parents smoking and they're all fine. again anecdotal. where's the proof that one thing or other played the only, or major role in the cause of cancer?

emon, when people spray their lawns all summer with products that are banned in other provinces and counties they're poisoning us all. it just doesn't 'go away'. it goes into our water, food, air... smoking is NOT the cancer scourge of society. smoking sucks and it's stupid but there are far greater carcinogenic problems than smoking. and you don't see commercials on tv telling you they'll kill you.
i don't need junk mail or spam to tell me that a product like roundup will give my kids cancer. the fact that it's banned in several places lets me know it's a chronic killer.

oooooo... bad smokers. you're going to kill us all. wahhhhhhh...

I'll bet you my life savings that you are incorrect.

Also, i'll quit smoking when you stop with them smelly carbon monoxide car machines.

[QUOTE=Darth Evad]anecdotal. i can name 20 people who were raised in houses with both parents smoking and they're all fine. again anecdotal. where's the proof that one thing or other played the only, or major role in the cause of cancer?

emon, when people spray their lawns all summer with products that are banned in other provinces and counties they're poisoning us all. it just doesn't 'go away'. it goes into our water, food, air... smoking is NOT the cancer scourge of society. smoking sucks and it's stupid but there are far greater carcinogenic problems than smoking. and you don't see commercials on tv telling you they'll kill you.
i don't need junk mail or spam to tell me that a product like roundup will give my kids cancer. the fact that it's banned in several places lets me know it's a chronic killer.

oooooo... bad smokers. you're going to kill us all. wahhhhhhh...[/QUOTE]

The proof is in the biopsy they did on his lung tissue. That is the proof.

Contained 3 different chemicals commonly found in the cigarettes his dad smoked.

[QUOTE=Darth Evad]emon, when people spray their lawns all summer with products that are banned in other provinces and counties they're poisoning us all.[/QUOTE]
People spray their lawns with perfume now?

I do...

Two G's, one G, sounds teh saem to me. :p

Um...No. If he gets cancer, its none of your business. If you dont want to be around cancer, don't be around him. Nobody subjects you to smoking anymore. Theyve almost gotten rid of it in all public places..

Squirt squirt squirt. I love it when someone sets down their cigs and gives me the perfect chance to inject homebrew napalm into them. You haven't laughed till someone tries to cause more pollution and ends up with burnt lips.
EDIT: Or, if you're not in the habit of carrying live explosives in small plastic tubes (>_>) you can light their box of cigs on fire when they turn around.

As far as I'm concerned, you can smoke or not smoke, and it's your choice. What pisses me off though is when smokers don't show any respect for non-smokers. For example, if you're gonna smoke, WAIT TILL AFTER YOU GET THROUGH THE DRIVE THRU AT MCD'S. That pissed me off so much when someone would get up to the window and blow smoke in my face back when I worked there. It's not like I had anywhere to go, I just had to sit there and take it.

Another example, is the other day I was coming out of work, and I saw a young man (25ish) holding a baby in one arm, and smoking a cig with the other. I wanted to wring his neck.

[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Every once in a while I'll see someone I think it is really hot.

But then I'll see him/her pull out a cigarette, and my attraction is totally destroyed.
[/QUOTE]


so true

Real men smoke unfiltered Lucky Strikes. Seriously, I can only smoke one a week or I can't breathe.

Honestly, my take on smoking... There are certain do's and don'ts. This is sort of an open letter.

Don't come up to me... clearly going out of your way, and complain about my smoking. I hate when people walk 20 feet or so out of their way just to ***** at me for smoking. Nobody said you had to come around me... I don't smoke near entrances to buildings or any **** like that. I go out of the way so people who don't like it don't have to deal with it.

Also, yeah I ****ing know cigarettes are not healthy. Leave me alone. Caffeine is bad for your heart, but you're not trying to save my life each time I open a coke are you? There's a warning on the box. I know how to read. Thank you.

If you do smoke, and you have kids, you don't smoke around your kids. I'm not saying you should hide it from them, but you should not force them to be harmed by it in any possible way, and it is possible. I was walking down an empty sidewalk one day smoking and I saw a woman with a baby carriage turn onto the sidewalk and come my way. I promptly stubbed my cig out and waited for her to pass before reigniting, only to see that the stupid ***** was smoking while pushing her infant. I wanted to push her into traffic. Same sort of **** has happened many times. People like those give smokers a bad name.

If you tell me smoking is pointless, I will stub my cig out in your eye. Smoking relieves tension. End of story. You feel good when you smoke. That's why we do it. It's a release, sort of like masturbation, only you can (sort of) do this in public.

If you're going to smoke, don't smoke anything with the words light or menthol on it. Menthol is disgusting, and lights feel like you're just sucking air through a straw. If you tell me you're smoking lights to quit, I will ****ing kill you. Just quit. Stop smoking, and don't switch to a pipe either. Chew some damned gum or get some suckers. Go buy a new videogame. Occupy yourself.

Stop telling me that you're quitting, because you're not. I hate when people are having conversations with non-smokers, and the non-smoker says the smoker should quit, and the smoker replies "Yeah, I'm going to." Shut up you ****ing uncle tom som*****. You're not quitting, you're just trying to get the smoke nazi off your ***! You know what I say when non-smokers tell me "you should quit." I say "so should you." Most of the time they don't get it, but hell, it at least throws them off long enough to change the subject.

I also hate those people who did quit smoking, and now they tell you how happy they are. Look dickwad, that's why I started smoking, because I was pissed off at how life had been for the past 20 years or so, and when I smoked, I felt better. I remember what it's like to not smoke. I like smoking more than not smoking.

And to the people who just walk by and say "that cigarette's gonna kill you." Oh man... those are one of my favorites. Every time that happens I want to walk in front of a bus just to prove them wrong. How the hell does this guy know that smoking will be the cause of my death, and why won't he tell me tonight's lottery numbers?

They say smoking takes ten years off of your life. I wonder how many years car exhaust and **** like that takes off of our lives. Come to think of it, all of the chemicals and **** like that we breathe every day can't really help too much in the long run. I remember seeing a figure somewhere that since Columbus is largely a commuter city (meaning no one lives in the city, they all live outside), the level of car exhaust I breathe in every day is on par with smoking 3 or 4 packs of cigs.

You can throw as many figures as you want at me, I don't care. I know smoking kills people, but so do cars, guns, and numerous other things. In fact, maybe if you spent a little more time minding your own god damned business instead of intruding into my life, you could think of something legitimate to worry about, like your own ****ing problems.

I'd like to ask everyone who *****es at me for smoking what their GPA is, and if they answer anything below 3.0 I should ***** them out for 45 minutes or so because in the time they spent memorizing all of those statistics about smoking, they could have been worrying about their classes and not being such a dumbass.

Anyway, after all of that typing, I sure could use a cigarette. Of course I'll head outside since my room mates are ****ing smoke nazi's. One in particular says she's allergic to it. This is what get's me about that: You're allergic to cigarette smoke? Well no **** you friggin dolt. It's POISON! That's why it ****s you up. That's why you get a buzz. Everyone is allergic to smoke. That's like saying "damn, john, I don't know what it is about that Anthrax stuff, but I must be allergic to it."

Go to hell.

Oh yeah, and another thing: Pot should be legalized. If you don't like it, don't smoke it.

Did...did you just complain about your roommates not wanting to be poisoned by you?

Eh... I should have mentioned that when I smoke indoors, I smoke in my bedroom. It's my room. I'm alone in it. The door is closed, and I put a fan in the window. I spray oder killing **** afterward in my room and in the hallway. I do everything I can to be considerate about it. They knew when they asked me to move in that I smoked. That is all I can say on the matter.

THis is also true. And I speak from experience now - it's legal here after all.

You're a dirty *******.

oh emon. you know what i'm getting at. the toxic witches brew of household chemicals that come with no warnings that most north americans breathe in everyday cause cancer. end of story. there's a term for it as it was discovered in the 50's and 60's to be harming house wives with thier heads stuck in ovens and bathrooms all day using harsh chemicals to clean.
what do you get when you mix perfume with pesticide, oven cleaner, bathroom pretty smell stuff, fabric protection...? whatever the **** it is, it doesn't take a doctor to know it's not good for you and it will have long term health risks.
funny how the fabric protection stuff was sprayed on everything for years, decades, and then one day out of nowhere it was banned because it causes cancer. where were the people telling you your couch stinks and you shouldn't use it?
'i'm not sitting in your living room. your couch stinks and it's going to kill me.'

the bottom line is, if you live in urban, suburban or anywhere within 20 minutes drive of a smog cloud, second hand smoke is not your major concern for health. focus your attention on the real health risks.
when some **** at the bus terminal tells me my second hand smoke is bad for him while i'm smoking outside, he should tell the bus driver that the bus is killing him. but he doesn't. he stands there like as long as i put out my cigarette he'll live healthy.
when they find fire retardant in the breast milk of native canadians living in polar regions, second hand smoke is at the bottom of the list for our health concerns.

my point in all of these stupid smoking threads is, why do people focus on the smoking when they'll be killed by a myriad of other things?
smoking is one of two subjects that will get me to fly off the handle every time.

I quit a couple of years ago, but I agree with GothicX:

rolling tobacco >> cigarettes.

GothicX, are you Dutch?

HEY! I have a suprise for you.... "NON-SMOKERS DIE EVERY DAY!"


the thing is non smokers just drop dead or get sick. (some times no cause other than old age)

A smoker has a reason, oh know he has stop breathing quick put him on a machine that will do it for him. Throat cancer traciotomi here i come, now I got two holes to smoke out of. Voice box cancer, I get a computer to speak for me. So when I grow up you can bet that what little time i have on this planet im gonna enjoy it, if that means smoke 10 packets a day, gusse what ill be doing.

My 2 Cents.


Refrences of my argument can be found on, No cure for cancer - Denis Leary and Rant in E minor - Bill Hicks I total agree with their point a view.

Wow, Bill and Evad.. touchy touchy

go without your cigs for too long?

You seem to be missing the point that to anyone who doesn't smoke pot, it is pretty aweful as it smells extremely bad, and has a very strong scent. Say you went into a cafe, small and cozy place to relaxe and read the newspaper. Then you have two or three ****ers smoking pot next to you. Yay. Itsa legalized, but then

A) You'll leave the place smelling like a damn druggie.
B) You'll get a buzz from the second smoke (its as bad as smoking)

I like what they are doing in quebec, banning smoking from commercial spots like malls, restaurants, etc. I know the reaction to most smokers is "awww i can't smoke a cig and relaxe after a nice meal." Go home you panzies and relaxe there. Your damn smoke wont annoy anyone.

To me, smoking is a damn flaw, and non-smokers should not have to "get used" to it, or suck it up and shut up about it. Those who are smart enough not to poison their lungs with that crap, don't feel like getting poisoned from the second hand smoke either. Nor smell like it. Nor choke while trying to have a sensible meal because the idiot at the next table is smoking and not caring that his damn smokes going all over you.

Thats my take on this crap.