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Jehovah Witness in my school doesn't tell the truth.
2005-11-01, 2:40 PM #1
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Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-11-01, 2:42 PM #2
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Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-11-01, 2:42 PM #3
But does she even have an answer to those questions? Prehaps, a "reason" why?
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2005-11-01, 2:44 PM #4
[ Whoops, put a "to" in front of the have in my mind ]
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-11-01, 2:44 PM #5
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Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-11-01, 2:45 PM #6
Originally posted by Final_Hope__:
Oh, I'm not trying to be offensive or anything to whomever may be a Jehovah Witness here, I'm just really confused as to why these people in my school are so...unwilling to explain their beliefs.


Not to bash Jehovah's Witnesses, this applies to any religion. It's possible they CAN'T explain or justify their religion (possible if their parents practiced it but didn't properly teach them, or if they're new to their religion). Which might also indicates they're not concerned enough about their own soul to look for answers, even if it leads them to other religions.

If I was a Jehovah's Witness (again, applies to any religion really) I wouldn't want someone like that to claim to belong to my religion.

[Edit: The point that Wolfy raises is important... those responces could indicate either she doesn't know how to answer it, or she knows better than to answer it in a way that might incite theological debate. I sure know better than to take part in Massassi theological deba... oh wait... bah.]

2005-11-01, 2:46 PM #7
yay for SUPER Elitisim of people and their religion!
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2005-11-01, 2:48 PM #8
It doesn't seem so much elitism as just genuine *****ery.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-11-01, 2:49 PM #9
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Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-11-01, 2:50 PM #10
We do have an explanation to everything, I recomend you read our weekly magazines of the watch tower... let me tell you our life... you are being BASHED by an entire school as to your beliefs, you are being humilated by every one because they think you're an idiot or an extremesist... it all comes to a point where when some one asks you it becomes an annoinance more than a question, I've lived like this all my life but I now know most of the answers and when I don't I go to one of the watch tower cds and look them up. Now about halloween, maybe you should read its origins.... if you knew them, and if you are a true christian you would never celebrate it, as halloween is the worship of the devil and all thats evil.
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2005-11-01, 2:52 PM #11
[QUOTE=The Mega-ZZTer]Not to bash Jehovah's Witnesses, this applies to any religion. It sounds like they CAN'T explain or justify their religion.[/quote]

was about to say the same thing..

I would guess when people ask and she were to say 'because its against my religion' the next thing people would ask would be 'why?'

and she probably doesn't have a good aswer to give them...
2005-11-01, 2:53 PM #12
Originally posted by Genki:
yay for SUPER Elitisim of people and their religion!


Well, according to them (I believe), only 144,000 out of the 6 billion people in the world get to go to heaven. That's some competition there.
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2005-11-01, 2:55 PM #13
We have an explanation to everything... I shouldn't be in Kung Fu actually... because we were told NOT to learn war... and plus it promotes the spirit of competition, which in its own way is a root of evil, not the root, but a root. How many soccer games turned into riots or massive fights? What about the gladiators? Did they not call that a sport to?
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2005-11-01, 2:56 PM #14
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Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-11-01, 2:56 PM #15
Originally posted by Echoman:
Well, according to them (I believe), only 144,000 out of the 6 billion people in the world get to go to heaven. That's some competition there.


However, more people are going to be saved from everlasting death, and will enter the period of trial of 1000 years... those 144000 are going to help Jesus in his ruling on the Earth when they become spirit creatures and are no longer flesh. They will be the priests of the future.
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2005-11-01, 2:57 PM #16
I'm curious as to how Halloween is worshipping the devil and evil.
2005-11-01, 2:58 PM #17
I'm Christian. Never have cellebrated it with trick or treating. We'd always go to a school or church function where they'd have games and candy and stuff.

I don't do costumes either. Haven't since I was in elementary school. I remember being the Bible once. (You may laugh.) I think I was Moses once too. Or that might have been my brother.

2005-11-01, 3:01 PM #18
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
We have an explanation to everything... I shouldn't be in Kung Fu actually... because we were told NOT to learn war... and plus it promotes the spirit of competition, which in its own way is a root of evil, not the root, but a root. How many soccer games turned into riots or massive fights? What about the gladiators? Did they not call that a sport to?


So competition is against the religion? Like playing online games?

I don't follow your points about gladiators and sports. You could take sports and Kung Fu for exercise. I doubt a friendly game of soccer at school isn't going to turn into a riot.
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2005-11-01, 3:02 PM #19
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
How many soccer games turned into riots or massive fights?


The number of soccer games that break out in riots and fights represents a negligible fraction of the number of soccer games.

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What about the gladiators? Did they not call that a sport to?


There's a difference between kicking a ball around and fighting to the death. Though mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, next to soccer.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-11-01, 3:02 PM #20
Because it comes from the Celtic custom of worshiping there god Saihman (Not sure on the spelling) on 31st of October. This god was the cause of all evil, and thus their "devil" and other things were involved as well.

Most people believe that we are not Chrisitians... this is a common misunderstanding... the fact that we call god Jehovah DOES NOT MEAN that we do not believe in the Christ. The Christ is the son of god, his first creation, and the one who gave his perfect blood to pay for the sin of adam, so that we can have a chance of regaining everlasting life again. I find it hard to believe that people do not believe in him as his actions affected the ENTIRE world.
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2005-11-01, 3:03 PM #21
I bet she gets asked questions like that all the time and is just fed up with having to answer them over and over and over again.
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2005-11-01, 3:05 PM #22
Originally posted by Echoman:
So competition is against the religion? Like playing online games?

I don't follow your points about gladiators and sports. You could take sports and Kung Fu for exercise. I doubt a friendly game of soccer at school isn't going to turn into a riot.


The fact of the matter is you don't see all the fights and things that go on around the world in sports... you also don't see what happens OUTSIDE the stadiums, people killing people just because one team beat the other. Now Online game play I've never looked into, or seen as a sport, however I might exclude it from my list aswell, especialy with whats going on in China about this stuff of people killing each other over games... see what competition has lead us to?
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2005-11-01, 3:08 PM #23
Originally posted by Avenger:
I bet she gets asked questions like that all the time and is just fed up with having to answer them over and over and over again.


My point exactly... most young people, atleast in my experience, in our religion are not always the best people to ask. Also, how you treat your own religion gives us an impression as to how serious you would take them and how you would not laugh... the laws of God are strict, refer to the ten comandments, where God instructed men to worship no other but God himself.
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2005-11-01, 3:10 PM #24
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
See what competition has lead us to?


No. No I don't. Not yet.

So some druken fans killed each other over a game and very few Chinese MMORPGers died made competition as a sinful act? So a soccer game at school will lead to parents and kids stabbing each other? A local tennis match will lead to shootings and murders?
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2005-11-01, 3:15 PM #25
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Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-11-01, 3:16 PM #26
Without competition, there is no progress. That is all.
幻術
2005-11-01, 3:16 PM #27
Do you think there is not anything wrong with people competing agaisnt each other? Jesus said our fights was not with flesh, but with the evil spirits (aka demons). You might say that a two soccer teams are not fighting... but the same idea is there. They are having a "match" or a "showdown"... just because they are not "LITERALLY" fighting, does not make it right...
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2005-11-01, 3:16 PM #28
If the outcome of a recreational activity can lead you to violence, you need to take a good look at yourself, making the competitive activities against the rules is addressing a symptom not the problem.

Halloween stems from a Pagan ritual that was supposed to stop evil spirits returning to Earth during the time where the portals between the world of the living and dead were opened. It's nothing to do with devil worship.

Pagan festival does NOT mean devil worship, please try and comprehend this.
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2005-11-01, 3:17 PM #29
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Because it comes from the Celtic custom of worshiping there god Saihman (Not sure on the spelling) on 31st of October. This god was the cause of all evil, and thus their "devil" and other things were involved as well.

Samhain has nothing to do with worshipping an 'evil' god.

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According to Irish mythology, during that night the great shield of Scathach was lowered, allowing the barriers between the worlds to fade and the forces of chaos to invade the realms of order, the material world conjoining with the world of the dead. At this time the spirits of the dead and those yet to be born walked amongst the living. The dead could return to the places where they had lived and food and entertainment were provided in their honour.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain

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In Britain and Ireland in particular, the pagan Celts celebrated the Day of the Dead on All Hallows Day (1st November). The spirits supposedly rose from the dead and, in order to attract them, food was left on the doors. To scare off the evil spirits, the Celts wore masks. When the Romans invaded Britain, they embellished the tradition with their own, which is both a celebration of the harvest and of honoring the dead. Very much later, these traditions were transported to the United States and Canada and other places in the New World.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
2005-11-01, 3:17 PM #30
Why the crap do people follow a religion that its current leader can change on a whim? Catholics would be spot on for Christianity if the popes hadn't mucked it up.
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2005-11-01, 3:17 PM #31
Originally posted by Koobie:
Without competition, there is no progress. That is all.


Two countries competing agaisnt each other... one of them wins how ever the other has slowed this country down significaly... I see not advancing here.
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2005-11-01, 3:19 PM #32
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Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-11-01, 3:20 PM #33
Originally posted by Detty:
If the outcome of a recreational activity can lead you to violence, you need to take a good look at yourself, making the competitive activities against the rules is addressing a symptom not the problem.

Halloween stems from a Pagan ritual that was supposed to stop evil spirits returning to Earth during the time where the portals between the world of the living and dead were opened. It's nothing to do with devil worship.

Pagan festival does NOT mean devil worship, please try and comprehend this.


Still you do not beat the fact that god told you not to put one day infront of another, and said for you not to worship any god except him. Now I'm going to go look up the things in the watch tower disk and post .doc files... you can read those and think about them later... I say things from MY own point of view... now you will experience a general point of view.
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2005-11-01, 3:21 PM #34
[I ask this as im clueless not a jerk]
Umm...What exactly is a J.W A religion?
2005-11-01, 3:22 PM #35
Originally posted by Final_Hope__:
At our church (which I attend regularly, it's a Mennonite Baptist by the way, and yes, still Christian for those who don't know) we have youth events where kids can come and have fun. We play basketball and such.

You're saying that my youth leader is wrong? That my pastor is wrong for letting us have youth events where we play basketball games and dodgeball matches?


We have our own events, but we don't go around the world or town to match other people. In your case its probably allright... and if you a Menonite you would the true name of God.
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2005-11-01, 3:22 PM #36
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
[I ask this as im clueless not a jerk]
Umm...What exactly is a J.W A religion?


J.W. = Jehovah Witness
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2005-11-01, 3:23 PM #37
1. SF_GoldG_01, isn't God supposed to be competing with Satan for human souls? And 2., er - I don't see how USSR launching man into space slowed down USA, same goes for USA landing on the moon. So I think your logic is a little bit flawed.
幻術
2005-11-01, 3:25 PM #38
Yes i realize that was a abbreiviation but what sort of religion? You see... i have never [EVER] heard of that before so i am naturally curius.
2005-11-01, 3:25 PM #39
I think organized religion is for the weak minded. The more weak minded the person, the more extreme the organization. Note - emphasis on ORGANIZED. And Tiberium_Empire, Wiki is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovas_Witnesses
幻術
2005-11-01, 3:31 PM #40
Originally posted by Koobie:
1. SF_GoldG_01, isn't God supposed to be competing with Satan for human souls? And 2., er - I don't see how USSR launching man into space slowed down USA, same goes for USA landing on the moon. So I think your logic is a little bit flawed.


USA competing to go to the moon... couldn't we have used the money on that to get a cure for cancer? to help homeless people? or to give out more food? see all the more BENEFICIAL options?
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