Yeah. It's really is a shame because that so few ever get in trouble probably doesn't help any.

About the same likelyhood that those people will realize that condoms are good.

What... the hell. This is OK, but people have to get a liscense for getting a gun for 'protection.' This is a very harmful device, and the woman expects it to be on shelves next to condoms, like it's commonplace? Number one, I agree with whoever said it was normalizing rape. Number two, this will be abused far more than it'll be used.

"I think I'm going to break up with Tyler. All we really do is have sex now..."
"Why don't you stick a burr up your crotch so next time you have sex, he has to go to the doctor and plead that he's not a rapist. Write 'We should start seeing other people' on the pack of his trial papers."

Or even worse...

"David said Lauren looked cute yesterday!"
"Teach him a lesson!"
"I am! I'm going to have makeup sex until he realizes there's a burr in his ****. Then I'm going to report a rape."

Seriously, this is a violent, malicious weapon. I'm not saying it couldn't ever be used for good, but that's like saying "Giving mustard gas out so that people can protect themselves from gangs MAY be abused, but it's going to prevent more gang violence while sacrificing those couple abuses of the chemical."

Seriously, this is a BAD idea. It's like giving people date rape drugs and saying 'Only use it when you're trying to knock out your kidnapper.' It normalizes a not-so-normal [Not saying frequent or problematic] crime, and it also gives potential "victims" tools of violence.

Why we don't try to solve issues at their source, I'm not sure.

JediKirby

As much as I don't trust women (period), I really don't think this is going to have common use in the west, at all really. This is for areas of 3rd world nations (oh, I'm sorry "developing nations") where women are at the mercy of violent criminals fairly frequently. I'm going to assume that women are going to have quite a few reasons to fear of revenge if they try to use this as a vengence weapon in relationships.

I'm pretty sure my school used to hand out rape whistles during sex ed. But it was a bit before my time, so I'm not entirely sure they did or not.

Yeah, this is for place in Africa where rape is too much part of the cultrue.

It just seemed to me she was marketing it for the world that it'd be sold next to condoms.

First off, better to be safe than sorry

Second, you don't raelly have to worry about being raped (no offense)

Third, there wouldnt be such a need for such a device if guys could manage to keep their dicks in their pants and not rape in the first place.


Get over it. It's not womens fault that there's a device coming out to PROTECT them.. It's the mens fault for abusing their cocks.

i vote yes

I really doubt this device will do any good.

- It will be uncomfortable, so no one will want to wear it.
- A bunch of women are surely going to set it off and have it attach to the inside of their areas.
- According to the article, the device can be removed while erect. (Just saying, if the rapist acts quickly enough and knows what he's doing, he can remove it).
- Surely the thing is pretty conspicuous. If the situation is right it could be easily seen, infuriating the rapist.

5 bucks say this guy goes out of business before the end of the month.

Uh...say a woman puts it in, gets drunk, forgets about it, and a man ends up not having a working penis anymore EVEN THOUGH the sex was completely consensual.

Yeah, this is just as dangerous as a taser and pepper spray. Not lethal (well a taser can be), but harmful enough that it can disable you. If women don't want to get raped so badly they could probably find other ways that one which would endanger the reproductive organ of the male.

Exactly. It's sort of detrimental to the entire idea of peace and good to start clamping **** to cocks in hopes to catch a rapist or 2. Rape's bad, but bad enough to sacrifice possibly innocent men?

umm...odds are that if a woman is going to put it in, she's doesn't want sex. I don't really think the danger to innocent men is a great as you're making it out to be. I'm not saying it's going to be a success, beacuse it probably wont be, but I mean really.

Yeah, that's not true at all, men do get raped.


You realize that it is the vast minority of men that rape, I'm getting pretty ****ing tired of campaigns trying to make it look like all men out there are just looking for someone to sexually assault, 95%+ of men really and truely aren't.

[well, that was a stupid typo]

How many women do you know that go to parties expecting sex? How many do you know that go thinking someone might slip something in their drink? Alcohol changes a lot of variables in the equation.

(to roach: ) um, just because people recognize the danger doesn't mean that they think that all men are out to rape someone.

and as to the slipping something into their drink -(never mind that part, I misread that) And girls wouldn't put that in because they're NOT expecting sex, they would put it in because they're expecting rape, or in a situation where it would be a danger.

It's nothing nearly as innocent as that. I've had to sit through various bits of tripe and bull**** during this semester in my human sexuality course about the dangers of being around men as a woman that it's disgusting.

...but how would you get it out without clamping it onto your finger??!

And I have to say I'm with Kirbs on this one. Women can be *****es... literally. I would suspect that 7 out of 10 isntances would be a woman getting revenge on a man who "broke her heart."

You probably won't have time to slip it in if you're expecting to get raped. Honestly, it's a preemptive measure--that's why it's not uncomfortable, you'd have to wear it for quite a while.

(gah! to roach again) well that would be because the danger is there and some girls can be really stupid about that. better to drill the "danger!" into thier heads. I know my friends and I are pretty cautious about stuff like that. And I go to an all girls school in a place that is the recruiting ground for 3 different gangs whose entrance requirements are to rape a girl. Just because you're a guy I won't be automatically suspicious of you, and I'm not about to go walking around town with that thing in me, but all the same, you can't blame girls for recognizing the risk. being forcefully shown exactly how weak and helpless you can be is a scary thing.

LOL

"Women can be *****es, therefore they are either A) out to get men or B) Not entitled to have such a protective device"

There's some good logic.

with this statement, which i fully agree with... the sad fact is that i know a lot of obnoxious horrible girls who would actually claim rape even if the sex was consensual... which goes to **** up the system further.

That's not his logic, but there are girls out there like that. You're just taking the most extreme cases.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]That's not his logic, but there are girls out there like that. [/QUOTE]

...just like there are a lot of guys who are like that?

1 in 12 on average according to http://www.aaets.org/arts/art13.htm

That's 8.3~ percent of all guys.

I hardly call that "a lot".

Granted, that's only admitted, but still.

I definetly like that point Sugarless.

However, I look at it very similarly to the death penalty.

You convinct a person of murder.
They get the chair.
Are actually innocent, but we'll never know.
Yes, some people DO murder others, but killing all of the possible murderers is cheating them out of possible freedom.

You jab some guy in the cock with a device that could harm him forever.
He is convincted.
The woman later admits it was an accident, or was in vengance for emotional issues.
Yes, some men rape women, but sticking something to their wang and then saying sorry later if it was falsly put there...

I consider it 2 wrongs trying to make a right. Fix the original wrong.

Not to mention, an ungodly amount of people who are on death row for murder are proven innocent...do we really need another crime, and another judge, another punisher?

yes but I know you guys think that all women are evil psychotic b****es, but honestly, they're not. I tihnk the margin of error is similar to that of the death penatly. whatever your views on that are up to you.

I agree with them that most girls are probably this way, if not most then some, but I believe that it is MEN that made them this way.

I could use their logic for guns being legal in the USA.

Give guy A gun
Guy A gets depressed, upset, etc, shoots guy B
Guy B didnt do anything or even know guy B
People still buy guns freely (legal or not)


Bottom line nowadays, is that women just aren't safe. You can pull all kinds of figures out of your ***, women just aren't safe. On top of that, men are tending to be more horny dogs these days. It's too unsafe out there for a woman to walk without some sort of protection or way of fighting back.

Your argument and credibility ended at that point.

What's worst than feminists, is male feminists. God I'm glad you're not a part of my country.

MEN may have contributed to the current condition and status of women in society, in fact its fairly obvious that they have, but it's a condition and status that has increased immensely over the past couple centuries. Now, there are no true, solid, definable ways in which men are favored in society over women... military don' count btw.

Temperamental, your arguments about evil men needing to keep themselves in check are fine as far as men raping women goes, but about men sorta just deserving it because they're bad people? That's utterly ridiculous.

Also, your gun example is meaningless and useless, not to mention wrong.

I'm not saying anything past the fact that I think he was talking that men have made them as far as relationships go, not the roles in society go

As am I. However, I'm not a male feminist. You should stop assuming **** about me Yoshi.



What? I never said that men deserved it because they were bad people. I didn't even generalize men and group them all together.



If you're referring to that statement, that in no way says men are bad people nor that all men are bad people, nor that all men are anything.

What it means is that most guys nowadays would rather get laid than anything. An 18-25 year old male is thinking 98% of the time about sex and looking and googling at other girls. Prime example? Massassi. How many threads do we have about "HOT CHICKS" or "POST HOT CHICKS" topics that end up with a lot of the males saying "Yeah she needs a good lay" or "I'd bang that crap up the wall". This is the kind of mentality that I am referring to.

That's not saying that I think the people that say that are potential rapists, but there ARE a lot fo males that do take it taht far.

That's hardly what I'm implying. But as a man who has been falsely accused of rape (ask me about it some time, it's a fun story), I know that there are women who would take advantage of that device to cause harm or insult to men, and ultimately it doesn't do anything to "prove" that the woman was raped. It only tarnishes the man's reputation.

This device is no different than a glass of water with arsenic in it. Sure it can kill rats, but it can also cause harm or injury to people that don't deserve it and aren't expecting it. It's just too dangerous.

Besides, there's always the old standby of kicking a guy in the balls.

(note: that last comment was made half in jest. Let's not ignore the above two paragraphs and latch onto that last sentence as my entire argument, ehm?)

umm...except that it's inserted into a woman's vagina. WAY different than slipping arsenic into someone's drink. Seriously. That can only be used in pretty specific situations.

I know what you're saying. It is too dangerous if used int he wrong hands, but so are many legal things. People take advantage of things yes, but that's no reason to say to the other 90% that probably dont use it for bad things should not have access to it.

People use lots of things to harm people. People were going around in Toronto a few years ago infecting needles with AIDS and putting them in movie theater seats, etc. Does that mean we should outlaw needles because someone with AIDs might get upset and decide to infect people with them? No.

About your kicking guys in the balls.... That works less than half the time. Not to sound sexist (not being sexist just telling the truth) generally women arent as strong as a man. It;s quite easy for a man to overpower a woman.

You can't get hypodermic needles unless you have connections or a disease that requires them anyways...so...

P.S.--I'm not assuming. Even if you don't acknowledge it, that's how you come off in every single thread that has to do with women on massassi. Seriously, you tout the horn of the oppressed woman more than women themselves--it's pathetic.

18-25 year olds think about sex 98% of the time? This is fascinating. "Hot women threads"? Do these take up 98% of the time of anyone who has anything to do with them? No... "I'd bang her" and **** like that has been a typical male-camraderie-style-joking-humorism for FOREVUH and is merely a manifestation of sexual urges thru humor. Would you rather these urges be completely repressed (bad) or released in a more violent, obvious, manner (bad)?

Men are put down and controlled by women in relationships just as often as the reverse. You've seen it, you've heard it, you know its true.


btw rape sucks and rapists are horrible human beings, pretty sure that isn't debatable.

oh and...

Just wanted to point out, that I don't think this at all.. I was actually very careful to word my previous comment to reflect that I don't think this is the normal behavior of women or that all women behave this way. Notice I said, "Women can be *****es..." not "all women are..." or any other such nonsense.

I like that logic, men can be dangerous, ergo, we should teach women that men are dangerous. We should teach children to fear black people in the U.S., since, you know, proportionately blacks are more likely to be criminals than any other groups in the U.S. criminal system. Oh, and doctors kill many people in surgeries every year, sound the alarm people, surgeons are murderers!