http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/01/15/us_senators_say_military_strike_on_iran_must_be_option/

If this happens I will probably miss it by a few months.

THAT SUCKS KIDS.

Oh this is me now, btw.

RN2804.

But yeah, I really don't want to miss this if it happens, someone console me.

They have about two more months to do something before Israel steps in.

What the hell do you mean by that?

He means he wants to put a few persian notches on his rifle.

[QUOTE=Lord Kuat]What the hell do you mean by that?[/QUOTE]

I am going to boot camp in August.

I don't want to miss this, because my whole unit will almost for sure go. Since so many Marine reserves are already in Iraq we have like an 80% chance of getting called up.

It's funny that I can't fathom that on so many levels. Really, it's a deficiency on my part.

Were going to grafitti their nuclear bases.

You were? What happened?

[QUOTE=Lord Kuat]It's funny that I can't fathom that on so many levels. Really, it's a deficiency on my part.[/QUOTE]
I hope to god you're drawing the wrong conclusion.

Why must you post in my thread and ensure it's derailment.

But if your gang can be a bullet magnet and run in front of us I am cool with that.




huh?

Oooh cool more war. This is what reclining chairs, microwave popcorn, and big screen TVs were invented for. My only stipulation, as always, is if they drop nukes I want to see it in full 1080i HD.

A nice supplement to bullet proof vests. We can only wish, right?

Yeah...I'm pretty sure this conflict would be to prevent nukes from being dropped.

It is my goal in this thread to ask many questions. In that vein, what do you mean? Please clarify what you think the 'right' and 'wrong' conclusions are. Indeed, Spook is confused as well. Please, enlighten us.

That he wants to go kill people is what I hope is wrong.

Didn't Bush try this a few years ago?

Seriously, I really hope that this doesn't happen, especially after the Iraq debacle. Yes, Iran needs to be stopped from obtaining nuclear weapons, but only if it's truly a LAST resort. This time, if the UN is still inspecting their facilities, let them finish for a change instead of going to war over mythical WMDs.

Well, you gave the wrong conclusion. Where's the right one?

...yeah, when China and Russia start telling you to knock **** off and you plug your ears and go "alalalala" it means that you're not about to listen to politics. Expect some bloodshed here.

I don't want to kill people.

I am anti-war like everyone who has a shred of sanity. That is why I joined the military.

But I don't want to miss something like this if it has to happen (even if it doesn't) and there is like this deep seated drive to be there next to my friends when they are getting shot at.

Such is the conclusion you should draw.

However, I think we will probably go in somewhat prematurely if we do go in, hopefully it gets delayed as long as possible, not only so I can go, but to avoid dangerous misunderstandings.

Fine, I misunderstood your intentions, it's just that I have met people who joined the military just to kill and it pisses me off to no end.

I mean, you of all people should know that there are those, maybe few in number or many in number, who are in the military for that reason. I'm not aware of your sanity, so I assumed the worst. Not everyone on here is playing with a full deck as it is.

That said, I can't fathom you on another level, that is because I've got a severe yellow streak. The mere concept of bodily harm being done, much less what you see in war, makes me ill. Friends or not, I'd rather be at home, not getting shot at.

Maybe if Bush had waited, he could have killed two birds with the same stone.

*cough* Iraq and Iran *cough*

Maybe we staged ourselves in Iraq and Afghanistan for a reason...

Actually, all troops should pull out of the middle east, and then they should use my Moon solution:

KILL KILL KILL! MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

1080p is better foo!

I've never liked Iran.

I don't have anything capable of displaying 1080p.

720p, on the other hand...

Hi,

Have you read All Quiet on the Western Front?

Aw, book about hardships from the German point of view during WWI being compaired to a potential conflict pitting the Caliphate againt the rest of the world. Man that's deep.

Oh god. If this causes a draft, can they throw your *** in jail for refusing to cave in to pure lunacy?

oh and I would like to point out, that the ONE AND ONLY circumstance under which I would condone war is BEING ATTACKED. Simple, huh? And ethically justifiable.

Not mere death threats, certainly not just because a country is doing scientific research, and CERTAINLY not a country that says they have no intentions of building nuclear weapons.

Here's the golden question: how IS IT NOT hypocrisy that the United States is allowed to research all the weapons it very well pleases, but not other sovereign nations?

Here's the second golden question: how IS IT NOT hypocrisy that the United States could theoretically throw its own citizens in jail for refusing to fight a war they think is lunacy, then claim that they are 'spreading democracy' to the world? If THAT'S the sort of 'democracy' they're talking about, I can see why the Middle East doesn't WANT it.

Yeah, well of course this is going to be dragged out because no one likes where we are in Iraq. Even so, I think Iran greatly underestimates what the US/Coalition will do. The UN has always been a bunch of pansies, it's not like they're going to do anything.

I'm all for it. They don't want to listen, then fine. The only problem is convincing the rest of the world to stop whining and jump on the bandwagon.


Oh yeah, I joined to kill people.

[/sarcasm]

Hi,

That book is about war. War is bad. It ruins young people's lives. (and makes some survivors go crazy)

And that kind of war has literaly been obsolete since the end of WWI.

You do not refuse the will of the Emperor! Long live our Empire! Long live the Emperor!

*waves hand and watches the Schutzstaffel Special Forces "deal" with Freelancer*

I need sleep.

How is it not hypocracy? How about the researchers for the U.S. who discovered the nuclear weapons for the U.S. to realize that atomic weapons are capable of wiping out the world, easily. That they were so affraid of what they had created that they all wrote to all branches of the government to not use the weapons they themselves created. That we as the Western world cannot trust others with our knowledge to not use those weapons for personal gain. That those weapons in the wrong hands just might undo the very balance or anything that the world has achieved geopolitically. That not all nations have the watchdogs the western governments do. Gonzo, Free, do you really trust just anyone with nukes? And don't drag this into a "whine whine whine, the U.S. shouldn't be allowed to tell the world who can own nukes." Do you personally trust a man who says that Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the world with nukes?

Trench warfare, yes. Trauma... you have to be kidding me if you think the same effects aren't felt.

Citation.

[QUOTE=Lord Kuat]Trench warfare, yes. Trauma... you have to be kidding me if you think the same effects aren't felt.[/QUOTE]
You seem to think that the absense of trenches doesnt effect the trauma. After WWI we were far more capable of preparing our soldiers for the kinds of violence they were about to encounter. Do you know what three nations have soldiers who are more likely to kill someone without thinking twice about it? Israel, the U.S., and the U.K. Why? Because we know how to prepar soldiers now. We know how to program them for the brutality of modern warfare. We know how to prepare them for exactly what they will see, and how to teach them that reverting to training is what will keep them alive. You seem to forget that between WWI and WWII the very achitype of warfare itself evolved to basically what we see in war today.