Are you going to read Rob and My posts? If not, I'll gladly step out of this thread with the satisfaction that you're almost as ignorant as a certain forum troll that no one takes seriously anymore. Giraffes that practice wicca DO wear eyeliner, as stated by the theory of ID [The one that predates the noodly apendage itself.]

Then it'd just be a set of beliefs.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion

Personally I take kindly to the third entry. I'm not saying none of the others are right, but most people would call such a religion as you described less valid for having no moral code.

I'm fond of definition 1. b. myself. I always viewed religion as an institution or group (organized or not) whose purpose is to worship a deity. I am more fond of religions that focus on worship and less on morality. But again, that's me.

I'm sorry that I go to sleep at night and school in the morning. I can't debate all night.

I cant tell what the hell anyone is talking about now, its all going in circles.

But 1st... Is Kirby/Yoshi etc trying to dismiss modern wicca, along with all paganism, as bull****? If not, good. If so, Die.

2nd. Lay off SAJN, this is a debate, not world war three. Let us talk like intelligent human beings, and respect each others opinions, even tho you dont have to agree with them.

3rd the only to save this thread, is to turn the wicca stuff into a conversation based on goth girls and boobies, y'know that whole connection there. :em321:

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

Connection? Do tell.


Oh, and as I've said before; wicca has some very realistic views on various things - no matter where the damn thing originated from. Little fourteen-year-olds claiming to be 'witches' that cast 'spells' on eachother, obviously is ridiculous. They're better of playing LARP, where's there's actually some sort of effect to their so-called witchcraft.

From what I know by talking to people following this religion/cult/ideology, it's just another view on life. You might want to call it a subculture therefor, but let's not go into that. If someone's view on life is different from your own viewpoint, it doesn't mean theirs is 'bull****' by any means. Most of you will know how punk changed many people's view on life when it started becoming popular. Punk wasn't that old a thing at the time, either, a lot like Wicca.

The very problem with Wicca simply are the kids taking it too serious. If you follow Wicca, and therefor are more compassionate about nature, living beings and spiritual health, I don't see much of a problem. I you go around wearing black dresses, pentagrams, amulets while you're telling people you'll curse them once you've learned how to do so, yeah, now there's a bit of a problem.People stop taking you seriously (or, of course,more serious, depending on the person).

Anyone remember the 'satanic murder', commited because two Satanists thought a woman was the reincarnation of the Virgin Mary? It's a fairly nice comparison of taking things too seriously. LaVey, who pretty much started the whole Satanism thing, has always said not to take it seriously. It's a bunch of ideals, and if you agree with them, it's a nice thing for you. If you don't agree with the idealogy, tough luck, find another religion, sect, or fanclub.

If that didn't make sense, then please excuse me.


Birthday-hangover.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]I'm sorry that I go to sleep at night and school in the morning. I can't debate all night.[/QUOTE]
No need to defend yourself. If you can't reply until the next day, wait. You don't have to prove anything.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]... My 'argument' if you noticed, is making fun of Kirby's post by being almost the same paragraph with a few words plugged in. Which is why I said 'It's fun to be ignorant!' because I was acting ignorant by posting like Kirby did.

[/QUOTE]

Oh, ok. I didn't think you were that stupid. :p No problem then.

I'm here at college for academic purposes so the reason I'm choosing the latter roommate is that he won't disturb me too much academically. Besides with the first roommate I saw a used condom in my room's trash.....
Oh and to be technical that was one girl though it was strange how it happened on just the third day that I was in college. I'm not into doing random girls as well....especially those mediocre in appearance and drunk.

Update on Carolyn, apparently she was raped yesterday morning or something. Also I overheard my roommate trying to stop Carolyn from shooting herself with a gun....if only that did happened. Oh did I mention how he has been skipping every class since he got really involved in her life? Wondering how Carolyn is able to call my roommate during school hours, I asked him if she were in school or not and he said that she was in a acting/drama class with a teacher that allows his students to talk on their cellphones. NOTE that she is in an acting/drama class....

Oh jesus. One condom. God help you, you need a new roommate now!

reading through this whole thread is sooo damn funny......

but u got to admit, kirb,rob, yoshi, and whoever is winning this debate......

I read that as "9 ions to his tempting lube".

I knew it....her story was bogus. I'm glad my roommate finally sawmy side of the story. He finally came to an understanding after talking to his real life friend named Mike who said he is friends with Carolyn's family. Furthermore, Mike tells him that Carolyn is exaggerating her situation and that she has in the past told him similar stories. The only question is what is going to happen now between Carolyn and my roommate. I did get a bit of a guilty pleasure when he said he feels really stupid for not seeing through Carolyn's deception, keep in mind I did not rub in with a "I told you so."

I would have said it. Because I hate him.

Did you tell him I hate him yet?

No because I don't want him to know that I have told this story to other people....alot of other people. Oh as for Carolyn, now she's going through the whole "I'm going to kill myself" routine. My response to that? Go ahead, I would assist her if she asks me to.

It always hurts to get jilted.

Oh my god this damn drama won't ever end. Just when I think things were going well (my roommate attended class yesterday for the first time since last Wednesday), this happened.

How would you guys feel if someone in your room was having a phone conversation at 4:45 AM? Carolyn called my roommate at this time to let him know that she overdosed on these pills. My roommate does his best to calm her down and the he exits the dorm room to call for help (keep in mind he lives in Pennsylvania and she lives in Okalahoma). He didn't hang up the room phone room so I could still hear Carolyn speaking. She basically said stuff such as "Please don't leave me alone" and her voice was actually cracking to an extent.

When my roommate returned and then ends the phone conversation with her, he informs me that he called the police.
Me: "Good, hopefully they will shoot ."
Roommate: "What?"
Me: "Oh nothing..."
Roommate: "Cute" (in a disgusted tone)

Shortly after, Carolyn's mother called my roommate (it was around 5:25 AM at this time or so). She basically castigated him, but I'm not sure what exactly she said to my roommate other then that she said that he was using Carolyn as "entertainment" and my roommate said that he was deeply offended by her remark. My roommate tells me that he is beginning to reconsider Carolyn's story again after listening to her mother talked because of the amount of hate in her voice. Considering she has cops at the door of her house at 4:20 AM (their time) and it was caused by some 18 year-old she never met....his logic fails.

The next day I overheard my roommate talking to his friend about how Carolyn's mother called his father and how his father called him in return. He went on to say how his father yelled at him and tell him to come home this weekend, but my roommate said he didn't want to deal with this so he hung up. Another thing I heard was that Carolyn's mother is planning on taking legal action against him. College is crazy....

Remember kids! 17-21 and Within 2 years = good, but, beware, below that dating is bad!

College isn't crazy like this. Your roomate is just ****ed up.

If someone I cared about, called me to tell me they overdosed on a bunch of pills I'd call the cops too.

What part of MAYBE HE ACTUALLY CARES AND IS A COMPASSIONATE HUMAN BEING aren't you getting. So he's being dicked around by some 14 year old? WHO CARES. Invest in some earplugs if you don't want to hear it.

I'll be sure to wear some ear plugs next time before I go to bed. At least it's over I think...she's being sent to some place, thank god.