Just because your nation is struggling that doesn't mean you can just hop the fence and disregard our laws. That's like me saying that my home is not that great, I'll go crash someone else's home because it is better w/o telling homeowner. Yeah they come here to get menial jobs that pay sub min-wage because they are not U.S. citizens. And because they are not U.S. citizens they don't pay much if any taxes. They can't speak a lick of English, they're not well educated, they come here and pop four kids out. And now that those kids are U.S. citizens they get to benefit off of our government funded by U.S. citizen taxpayer dollars. Meanwhile their parents still do not pay taxes because they are not citizens. We can't afford the great influx of people south of the border.

What really pisses me off is that there are U.S. citizens who think that it is expected of us to pay for the needs of Mexican citizens. Furthermore some think that Mexico should have a rather large say in OUR border policy (I'm looking at you U.S. Senate). That's asanine.

I probably just opened up one helluva pandora's box but I could NOT resist responding to this considering I live about an hour's drive to the Mexican border.

WARNING: There is no continuity in the following text, its only a bunch of facts put together.

About politics: The whole group of those trying to get "Illegal" Immigrants out of the U.S. are pure IGNORANCE. People who are elitist, racist, nationalist and rational beyond humanities minimum requirements. It makes me so mad that these people who have better jobs, houses, cars and lives are complaining over nothing. I've lived in this society long enough to know there is little or no future here for the common people. The minimum wage in the U.S. per hour is like 5 dollars right? Thats the minimum wage a Mexican makes in 8 hours in his homeland. The number of job opportunities here are small or simply not worth the time. Its almost impossible for these people to enter the United States Legally. Why do they enter?I speak in general when I say they don't enter for drugs, problems, murders or any of the common lies. They go there, to find a job, that is usually excesive according to your standards, but would be considered easy here, with no inssurance, which is nothing new to them, and under wage pay, but its still alot more money than what they make here, and for them its paradise. Many die in the attempt to enter the U.S. They do lots of the jobs that an average American wouldn't, unless they were payed more.

Mexico is a corrupt, poor and proud country in which life keeps getting more and more impossible. Believe me I've begun to suffer from it, and I'm making plans to be able to get 1/2 a chance at the future. It is simply inhuman to treat these people like criminals. I don't know what is a bigger crime, entering the U.S. illegaly or deporting people in which such process comes the effect of destroying human life and families.

Whine whine whine, my country sucks and your country should pick up the slack.

Legal doesn't make it human.

Legal doesn't make it human.

Legal doesn't make it human.

Legal doesn't make it human.

Wait... this thread confuses me.

You're whining about people getting agry about things they dont understand... yet you're getting angry because you dont understand why people are getting angry.

Human or humane? What inhumane about it? Society itself is a humane concept, law is a social concept, processing individuals is part of society. It's perfectly humane. What's humane about delaying the legal immigration of thousands of others from all around the world just because you're too selfish and impatient to do it the socially acceptable way?

Let me paint you an illustration based on a real life fact. One of my Mexican Uncles tried going to the U.S., so he went to get a Visa. Denied. Why? Who knows, they wouldn't say. Probably because he is a taxi driver down here, and he has 4 kids and a wife, doesn't own a house, etc etc etc.

I would really love to see all the people who try to say I am in the wrong try to live down here for more than 1 month. I mean just come down here with 500 dollars, and try to live with no help or foreign jobs or anything. Maybe then you will understand.

Let me paint you an illustration based on a real life fact. One of my Mexican Uncles tried going to the U.S., so he went to get a Visa. Denied. Why? Who knows, they wouldn't say. Probably because he is a taxi driver down here, and he has 4 kids and a wife, doesn't own a house, etc etc etc.

I would really love to see all the people who try to say I am in the wrong try to live down here for more than 1 month. I mean just come down here with 500 dollars, and try to live with no help or foreign jobs or anything. Maybe then you will understand.

Let me paint you an illustration based on a real life fact. One of my Mexican Uncles tried going to the U.S., so he went to get a Visa. Denied. Why? Who knows, they wouldn't say. Probably because he is a taxi driver down here, and he has 4 kids and a wife, doesn't own a house, etc etc etc.

I would really love to see all the people who try to say I am in the wrong try to live down here for more than 1 month. I mean just come down here with 500 dollars, and try to live with no help or foreign jobs or anything. Maybe then you will understand.

If my uncle was a criminal don't you think he would have been arrested? If the people who come the U.S. followed the Law, payed taxes etc etc, then is it too much of a burden? I mean is it too much for the U.S. to help Mexico to stand up in exchange for other benefits so they don't have 4 million illegal immigrants?

If the people who come the U.S. followed the Law, payed taxes etc etc, then is it too much of a burden? I mean is it too much for the U.S. to help Mexico to stand up in exchange for other benefits so they don't have 4 million illegal immigrants?

What? No idea what this means

Ok now i get it. I think the number was more like 12 million at last count though.

As I understood out of 12 million there were only 4 million illegals immigrants. I understand Mexico is not the poorest or even being close to it, but I do see that the U.S. could help Mexico. For example negotiating to allow companies to enter freely to generate more jobs.

Even if the answer for Mexico was help from us, as of right now the best we could do is toss our surplus of breakfast burritos over the fence.

yes, lets let even more foreigners in and put american citiizens out of a job.

1. thats called american arrogance.
2. that is only exacerbating the problem
3. jobs are a real problem.

Legal doesn't make it human.

Let me paint you an illustration based on a real life fact. One of my Mexican Uncles tried going to the U.S., so he went to get a Visa. Denied. Why? Who knows, they wouldn't say. Probably because he is a taxi driver down here, and he has 4 kids and a wife, doesn't own a house, etc etc etc.

I would really love to see all the people who try to say I am in the wrong try to live down here for more than 1 month. I mean just come down here with 500 dollars, and try to live with no help or foreign jobs or anything. Maybe then you will understand.

1. if those are the only jobs available to a person, then not taking them is absolutly stupid. saying that you magically deserve a better job when there aren't any only adds to the stupidity/elitism

2. more people + less jobs = more unemployment. id say its a problem

3. ok think about it. if you don't have a job, you can't pay taxes. woah, sounds like a problem to me. i do agree that taxes are a problem, don't get me wrong on that. but jobs and taxes are both problems that are closely related.

also as a side note, i don't appreciate the personal attack, i was in no way going after you at all yet you get defensive when i make a post. real mature.